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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJun. 24 at 3:37 p.m.
Thread: goalies for next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsFan</b></div><div>Should the Leafs not be able to get Campbell back on a reasonable deal that works for both sides, I would really love to get either Ilya Samsonov or Vitek Vanecek out of WSH. Whoever they deem not their number 1.

My first choice would be Samsonov. You are banking on talent coming back since his numbers where not very good last year. However, this is a former first-round pick who the Capitals felt at one time was their goalie of the future. He’s struggled a lot against high-danger chances (he was tied with Campbell with a .676). It will be really important for him to improve in that area. Samsonov is just 25 years old, might be an intriguing option to put him next to another vet (Holtby/DeSmith/Wedgewood or maybe pair him with another Russian if Georgiev if he goes unqualified). Yes this is like buying a lottery ticket hoping to hit which is scary for a team with Stanley Cup aspirations, but I see a lot of value in Ilya.</div></div>

I have both Samsonov and Georgiev at the same level.
Vanecek seems like he has better analytics.

Also why I like Comrie too.
Desmith has good analytics too.

If Ottawa buys out Murray I'd sign him as insurance type guy.


I really thought Samsonov would be better by now TBH, so that is bit of red flag in my mind.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJun. 22 at 6:31 a.m.
Thread: goalies for next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I would honestly sign Campbell and wait to see if Murray gets bought out or try and bring in Desmith or Comrie to back him up

Now Siegel and Mirtle hinted MAF could happen but idk hes to unpredictable. That said of all the goalie options via FA hes the best guy

There is Husso but idk I dont trust it. I feel hes gonna be like Grubauer

So my best guess rn is we see one of these tandems

1. Campbell/Desmith
2. Campbell/Comrie
3. Campbell/Kallgren
4. Campbell/Murray

1. MAF/Kallgren
2. MAF/Desmith
3. MAF/Comrie
4. MAF/Murray</div></div>

Is Campbell worth 5 or 4 million you think?
I dont.
What has he done till now say he is?


MAF I think will go to Pittsburgh to finish his career.<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>If we look at comparable's and what he has done yes he is worth 5mill rn. Since Joining the Leafs Campbell in 3 seasons is

51-14-9 with a 2.47 GAA and a 0.917 SV

Injuries are a concern but a healthy Campbell is a monster we all have seen it

Now for comparison

Ullmark 5mill x 4 years
Perersen 5mill x 3 years
Merzlinkens 5.4mill x 5 years</div></div>

The point is he hasn't been healthy and is getting a track record of not being able to stay healthy.

With the sample size he has, this should not be a concern but it is.

This is where I cant do it.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJun. 22 at 12:24 a.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJun. 21 at 5:51 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJun. 12 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Free Agency Targets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>My FA targets as of now

1. Lazar (should be able to be got for 1.05mill x 3 years)

2. Ho-Sang (I think he technically counts as a free agent 925k x 2 years to me he is Bunting 2.0)

3. Cody Eakin (1mill x 2 years) --&gt; Imagine 4 centers with the capability of winning faceoffs more than 50% of the time. Also is Kampf insurance should he take a penalty or is hurt)

4. One of Holtby, MAF, Husso (3-4.5mill)


Now should these players get Bought-Out/Non-Qualified would look at the following and how much they should sign for

1. Monahan (2mill x 1 year basically what Wennberg did)

2. White (1.5mill x 2 years)

3. Wood (1.85mill x 2 years)

4. Murray (1.5mill x 2 years)

Havent posted it yet but so far I have come up with the following team


Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Ho-Sang
Nylander-Kampf-Kase
Engvall-Eakin-Lazar

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liligren
Giordano-Sandin

MAF (if he decides to come 3mill x 1 year)
Murray (gets bought out so is making 2.5mill from Ottawa + 1.5mill from Toronto so hes making 4mill all things considered which is why we can probs get him under 2mill)

Extras: Simmonds, Anderson, Dahlstrom

Wont discuss trades as to me I think its just gonna be money out go get UFA's

But who knows maybe Dubas trades for Gibson or something</div></div>

I like some ideas you have, others I'm worried about.

One big one, Tavares can still take FOs but has to shift to wing like Stamkos. So we need someone with speed to play 2C when not taking FOs.

I love an idea of trading Sandin for Lundell.

Lazar is interesting idea, Ho-Sang I'm interested but to insert as 2RW is a reach.

Fleury has to be going to the Penguins.
Holtby, cant do it... just cant stay healthy enough to warrant a chance.
Husso is on everyone's list, including mine.
He will be highly sought after.
How do you feel about deal centered around Mzraek for Murray with retention?

Muzzin has to go, I know you said you dont know about trades... I just dont know how to bring back.

For me that means we will need minimum 2 x top4 D man, tough decisions ahead.
Forum: Minnesota WildJun. 1 at 12:38 p.m.
Thread: Dumba
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Honestly my opinion hasn't changed. I still think we'll try to find a way to keep him, but unless he takes a pay cut on an extension that'll be hard to do. For your second question I suppose it depends. If Fiala and Dumba are both moved, we'd have a little wiggle room. It shouldn't be a cap dump player though, if that happened and we were to take on cap (really going down the rabbit hole here), ideally that would be a young player who is an RFA and needs a bridge deal (like a Vilardi or Necas or something). There isn't a lot of room for depth guys that are paid more than $1-2M AAV anymore, especially with acquiring/re-signing Jost, Merrill and Goligoski as well as having Kulikov on the roster.

As for Talbot, I would guess Guerin would prefer to keep Fleury over Talbot, but Guerin was on a podcast and said he talked with Cam and implied things were amicable. Who knows really, I wouldn't be all that surprised if we moved him and re-signed Fleury.</div></div>

I think Fleury is signing with Pittsburgh.
Forum: Minnesota WildMay 31 at 7:51 p.m.
Thread: Dumba
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Think this is more appropriate as a forum post, but I'll bite.

I think Guerin is going to do what he can to keep Dumba around. Russo has mentioned in his podcasts that Dumba has been a very big part of the culture change Guerin sought to develop when he was hired. I don't know whether that's true or not because I'm not in the locker room, but based on Dumba's character it doesn't surprise me and we'll have to take Russo's word for it. Dumba is a team player through-and-through and Guerin loves those type of guys. If you saw his post-game presser a few games ago (I think it was against the Sharks) where he made that stupid play in the neutral zone and coughed up the puck, that video is a shining example of that.

Problem is, we don't have a lot of money the next few years to extend him. If he wants more than what he currently makes, I don't know if there's any way we can keep him.</div></div>

Do you think Dumba gets moved now?
And it's likely Wild want no cap back for him?

Also what is the deal wit Talbot?
Looks like to me Wild burned all the bridges with him in that situation with game 7.
Has hecplayee his last game as Wild???

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Would like your thoughts too guys.
Forum: NHL SigningsMay 22 at 8:24 p.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Mark Giordano (2 Years / $800,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>You realize Sandin has also has injury issues right and is not ready for a top 4 role. And as I saw with Gio hes better as a 3rd pairing guy at this point in his career.

Just because Muzzin is older does not mean much if were basing it off that notion lul.

Muzzin Brodie has produced good results at both ends and will be the perfect shutdown pair for us going into next season

But as I highlighted trading Muzzin even with the injury problems would be a mistake.

Thankfully with Gio being added Muzzin wont have to play a big of a role and so will be less likely to get hurt</div></div>

I never said that Sandin or Giordano are Muzzin replacements.

I would add another body.
Forum: NHL SigningsMay 22 at 7:45 p.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Mark Giordano (2 Years / $800,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Very bad idea

Muzzin-Brodie was a very good pairing for Toronto especially in the playoffs. Pairing added stability and did its job. And we saw what happens when we dont got to work him to death.

That and the fact you get rid of him you get rid of the only guy whose won a cup on this team.

Leafs management love Muzzin and Muzzin loves playing for Toronto. Unless there is a deal to good to pass up doubtful it happens.

With a restful offseason to recuperate would not be surprised if Muzzin rebounds back to his old hard hitting self</div></div>

I understand what your saying but man you have understand that Muzzin is getting older and slower.. and yes more injury prone.
Muzzin has to go IMO as well.

Back to Giordano signing here though, love it.
Was really hoping for this and would love all the people to eat crow that said he would sign 3+ million.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 18 at 5:23 p.m.
Thread: What Does It Cost To Resign Our RFAs and UFAs?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LaffsFan</b></div><div>This season we've got Campbell, Giordano, Lyubushkin, Sandin, Liljegren, Mikheyev, Kase, Engvall, Spezza, and Blackwell on the books.

I'm gonna try and guess how much it would cost to resign them...

Campbell: 4.25m x 6
Mikheyev: 3m x 3 (I doubt he comes back. I don't even want him back)
Giordano: 2.5m x 1 (the range on what he can possibly get is huge)
Lyubushkin: 2m x 2 (It would make no sense to resign him)
Sandin: 2m x 2
Liljegren: 2m x 2
Kase: 2m x 1 (so many injuries. may as well trade his rights)
Blackwell: 2m x 1 (doubt they resign him. lowkey a waste of a third-round pick)
Engvall: 1.75m x 1
Spezza: 750k x 1

Tell me what I got wrong</div></div>

I'd like Campbell at lower number than that.
Similar to Mzraek salary makes most sense, and if he wants more... move on and take chance on Husso at 3 to 3.5 million AAV.
Mikheyev is gone, not sure he ever removed his trade request.
I hoping Giordano take team friendly deal to stay.
I'd offer Lybushki the same deal that Holl was signed to.
Sandin, it will be bridge deal at less 2 million to me.
Liljergen, similar to Sandin but also chance of just qualifying offer here with extension later like Dermott.
Kase, played well enough when not injured.
I'd prefer to move on from him due injured time.
Blackwell, impressed and want him back but shouldnt cost more than 1 million AAV.
Engvall, I want him back... cap similar to now or at Mikheyev salary makes sense.
Speeza, I'd take him back but hes not everyday player anymore.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 18 at 5:12 p.m.
Thread: Why A Nylander Trade makes no sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I agree with what Nick Kypreous and Justin Borne had to say about Leafs needing a true #1 D man. Reilly does alot things well but doesn't do any of those things at an elite level, including having a threatening shot from the point on the powerplay.

They suggested trading Nylander for such a D man or maybe trading Nylander and not taking on much salary so a D man can be signed.

I don't know who that may be but it's hard to argue with that.</div></div>

I have been saying 4 to 5 seasons that Rielly is not #1 D man.
Hes really good #2, that's it.

Now whether to trade Nylander for D man, that is debatable.
It is easy to point to Nylander, the second you trade him guess what your gonna be looking for? It will Nylander level talent.

To me that best way to address the issue is look at was the problem.
Yes we had depth issues, who doesnt?
I think one glaring problem that is only gonna get worse is the injuries that plagued the Leafs this season.
I know you might say something to effect... injuries? Which NHL team doesn't have those??

The issue to me directly at key pieces that getting injured more than once hampered us.
Mzraek, this signing I was never happy with... yes it had potential to go well but what really happened should have been in the back on your mind considering Mzraek's track record.
Muzzin, this man is getting older and slower... and yes more prone to injuries.
I was never a fan of extending him.
Praying and hoping he would stay healthy is and was foolish and stupid.

Both of these two to me are big question marks for next season, I don't have magic pill to fix this but addressing this has to be priority 1 or 2 to me.

What do you think?
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