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Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 11:18 pm

Thread: Are the Flyers ready to move on from Patrick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Yeah. I figure we could get him for less than this, but I wanted to start a convo on if he was available and not why my proposed trade was awful and how stupid I am to have proposed it.

Patrick is damaged goods and the bet is that the Leafs medical staff can rehab him. All we need is a good 3rd line centre. If he turns into more yay I guess.

My bet would be Kapanen + (so lose Mango and the 1st and add from there, which 100% would have caused a ****storm).</div></div>

Do you know if there is any improvement on Patrick's situation with the disorder??

Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 11:14 pm

Thread: Are the Flyers ready to move on from Patrick

Good premise here, not out of realm of possibility where a young player after injury riddle year gets traded.

You also have to be careful and not overpay in a trade too much here.

A few times during the course of the year I tried to gauge Flyers input on Patrick.
A few were too optimistic saying he would play this season, which he clearly didnt.

It should not be taken lightly that he did not play at all in his contract year.

One thing is for sure, need to lower the expectations on Patrick big time if you want him to even return to hockey at all.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed at 1:41 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Agree that this season should be done. Go back to Game 68 to determine the draft rankings. Raises the interesting question about incentive clauses, and the third-round pick involved in the Lucic-Neal deal.

As a practical matter, I don't think that the NHL can lower the cap. That would be an admission that the League has moved backwards - perhaps true, but politically destructive.</div></div>

So you think no matter how hard the USA economy gets hit, keep the cap the same???
While politically destructive, I'm not sure the NHL will have choice given how gate driven the league is like <a href="/users/onex" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@onex</a> said.

NHL will likely not be the first league to step forward.
My money is on the NBA, their commissioner is progressive af.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed at 1:33 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>What everyone seems to forget is that the cap is calculated by estimating the revenue that the proceeding season will generate. For example, this season was expected to generate the revenue to make an 81.5M cap. The fact that it is speculation is why escrow exists. <strong>All this to say that Covid shouldn't affect next years cap</strong> unless the NHLPA and NHLBOG convene to change something to help lessen the burden of the massive escrow hit the players will take this year.</div></div>

I did not think about this before, but with the escrow hit coming... who says NHLPA wont fight any buyout notions???

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed at 1:25 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

I think the 2019-20 season is done and there should be no playoffs.

And I agree with <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> that the start next season on time is questionable at best right now.

If the cap decreases, how much lower do you think it will go? <a href="/users/onex" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@onex</a>
And how you feel about buyouts only allowed to players by signed by the same team???

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue at 6:37 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The "compliance" or "free" buyout significantly benefits a few teams (notably Tampa Bay and four Pacific Division teams), doesn't help half a dozen teams at all, and has only a modest effect on the rest, so I don't see how it gets enough votes to pass.

Keeping the cap the same does negatively affect some teams who can argue that they were led to expect an increase, but by and large, those are teams that created or acquired bad contracts some time ago, so they are on shaky ground claiming some right to equitable relief.</div></div>

What if the buyouts can happen to players traded to other teams? Than it will be factor for teams without bad contracts too.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue at 6:35 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>The cap should be going up and every team should get one compliance buyout. The rising escrow rates means that owners are getting some of their money back through revenue sharing. As far as I know the reason there is escrow is to adjust for the cap inflation. The Athletic had an artical about escrow rates going up again (this was a while ago so I could be completely wrong or things have changed) and the nhl should also have the cap inflate with it.

As much as it bugs me that GMs are still making stupid decisions I still think a compliance buyout is the way to go. By looking at the projections on CF of people who could be bought out it looks like its mostly guys in their early to mid 30s on horrible contracts. A league wide compliance buyout type of thing would help reset the market and it would be a real kick in the pants to all the GMs. In theory they would buy the Mark Edward Vlasic's of the world out, the owners would pay the check and they would be pretty pissed off. There wouldnt be many contracts like those again.

What the NHL should really be doing is going to a luxury tax system and getting rid of the pity points so there is less artificial parity. It would be so much fun and rewarding for the fans/management of teams that actually do a good job</div></div>

Good points.

I really think the hard salary cap is here to stay.
Remember, more teams benefiting from this then not.
The only way this changes is if the top owners like MLSE and others decide they are not okay with it.

An increased cap with buyouts is even more likely than Path 3 I proposed IMO, the reason I think this is because the world economy is gonna get hit super hard especially in North America.
The situation in the USA right now, I think in reality it is worse than Italy and will get worse.

September is when this started in China, and due to this communist government they were able to hit recovery 7 to 8 months.

USA, they are one of the worst prepared for what is happening. And the country being so vast with state to state having a different situation is gonna further complicate things.
If one state recovers it will too easily prone to relapse unless the neighbours do too.

Same with Canada, we border NY state and Washington state.

Sorry for the rant but I'm just trying to emphasize that an increased cap with buyouts is super wishful thinking.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue at 6:08 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue at 5:59 pm

Thread: Where does the NHL go now?

I was thinking this in my head regarding the cap, and that is there only 3 paths forward for the next season.

Path 1 :
Reduced cap with 1 or more compliance buyouts
buyouts
-I have seen a lot of putting people pushing this forward and while attractive in some ways it is also unattractive in others.

Path 2 :
Same cap
-This is what I think will likely happen, to me this would be most problematic for teams to manage.

Path 3 :
Increased cap
-most unlikely thing to happen, it's just not realistic.

My question to people is, what do you want and what do you think will happen?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 4:28

Thread: Hornqvist

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluejackets2000</b></div><div>I thought you said "STUD".....but it must have been "DUD"?</div></div>

Ahhhhhh I get it now.
The ACGM creator made a typo.

He had to have meant dud if hes talking about Gudas. :tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:35

Thread: Solving Tampas cap space thingy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>No because he still able to play in nhl, but he could play in ahl with a Ntc. That only provide him to chosse is destination, not block movement.

And the way waivers work is that detroit who are ranked 31 are the first to pick players of waivers, then the 30 ranked team can select him if detroit pass on him and that goes on until the first ranked team. So i wasn’t referring to 31 team would try to acquire him. A team ranked 15 overall couldn’t pick him of the waivers until the 16 other team behind team would pass on him</div></div>

Why wouldn't he play for Yzerman???
Isn't he the one that signed him to that deal?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:32

Thread: Signing the 3 big RFA

Trade or waive Johnson, keep Palat

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:26

Thread: Solving Tampas cap space thingy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Of course this will happen but if Johnson doesnt waive is clause he doesn’t choose where he end up. So team rank from 31-1 would have right in order to select him without giving some assets. At least if he waive is clause he can choose where he want to go</div></div>

It would not 31-1 team though.
The team had to be able to afford him.

I only arguing the point that because of full NTC, Johnson wont be in the AHL.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:23

Thread: Hornqvist

Where is the stud defenseman?????

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:18

Thread: Solving Tampas cap space thingy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>I am not sure about your question What you mean ?</div></div>

Saying if Johnson didnt waive his NTC then.
Rather than Johnson going to AHL, he would likely get claimed off waivers without giving up assets to acquire if a team wanted him.

Like Dallas.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 20 at 1:09

Thread: Solving Tampas cap space thingy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Or some team just picks them off of waivers?

While they have the power to assign them to AHL, they also have to keep in mind they could lose them for free if they did that.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Yes but you get the point that a players will waive is trade clause before getting into the ahl process.</div></div>

Isn't it just as likely that the player would get claimed by team x if put on waivers rather trade for the player and give assets to get before being sent down to AHL???

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 18 at 10:21

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Yeah, they're definitely going to get worse... They already went from no groups bigger than 1000 to 50! And two weeks to two months😔</div></div>

I'm worried we are taking half measures and are too afraid to make a bold move.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 18 at 10:20

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>What's your best prediction for DeMelo? I ask seriously because you're a smart dude.

And you already know where I stand on Hamonic.</div></div>

DeMelo, I'd offer him 5 years @ 3.35 million AAV.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 18 at 10:19

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>I get your point but you gotta remember what is required of whomever Rielly's partner will be... They need to be able to clear the front of the net, take away passing lanes, take away shooting lanes/block shots, and play with an edge. I'm sure Rielly's pairing will have to play against the oppositions top players, however, it won't be as much because we have Muzzin's pairing now. I think Gudas can handle it, I know he's had a bad season but I think he'd be fine for that role. The question becomes: what will it take to pry away someone like Severson compared to signing Gudas who will only cost $ and if we need to trade player(s) away then we will gain more assets in return. Also, it will depend on what Gudas' next contract will be.

Are you against bringing him here in general or is there a contract that works for you where you would rather have Gudas than trade for someone like Severson? Same goes for DeMelo.

One last thing who do you think would be the most realistic to acquire between Severson, Murphy and Savard? I would think Savard would be the cheapest/easiest to get but I'm more intrigued between Murphy and Severson....what say you good sir?

We may be living in a resident evil movie but at least we have CF to help pass the time🤫🤔🤪 lol</div></div>

Gudas should be last resort IMO.
I'd rather trade for Severson or sign DeMelo 100%.

Trade is the most realistic, Severson is most realistic.
Savard, I'd only make a move for after striking out our Severson and DeMelo.

Another good trade target IMO should be Cernak, what you think of him??

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 17 at 4:41

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>By himself gudas is a 3rd pair defenseman but playing on the 2nd with rielly would be absolutely fine. I personally think he is a better overall player then someone like Brandon Carlo or Scott Mayfield who are #5s but especially in carlo's case hes playing with krug and people think hes a top 4 defenseman. I dont mind holl on the 3rd pair with muzzin. I imagine they're going to do a shut down pair again and muzzin-zaitsev was fantastic against the Bergeron line. We know holl is far better then zaitsev and I dont see any reason why they cant replicate that.

Demelo would be nice but he was also sheltered a fair bit in ottawa and he will cost more on the opening market.</div></div>

I think anywhere from 2-4.5 million will be price for DeMelo on term deal, and the good thing g with him as he can slot down in later years.

Do you think Hamonic has enough left in the tank to be effective flown 3 or 4 year deal?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 17 at 1:24

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Thanks. It's nice...no more parties every night, I did get them to stop for temporarily but now it's officially done!!!😁. It is very depressing but at least I found a way to make a few bucks on the side! I got 80 bones cash for yesterday!!! How you guys been holding up?</div></div>

Being at home with no new hockey or ball, this is getting cruel but I get it.
In fact, I fear things are gonna get worse.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 17 at 1:23

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Fair and very good points sir! What do you think Gudas' next contract will look like? I'm thinking 3 years tops and $3mill give or take depending on how desperate a team gets or how they view him fitting in with their team.</div></div>

I think Gudas is 3rd pair 100%.
Look at him with Capitals, him and Jensen have been competing for whose worse.

I use to think Gudas was better but I got shown the light on him.

Once we got Holl his new deal, the thought spending a few million on 3rd D is not worth it.
Just use Rosen there.

DeMelo IMO is good choice to target but will be highly sought after I fear.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 16 at 11:33

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Darn, I was hoping I finally persuaded you for a change lol😉. You already know I think Rielly and Jones would be the best pairing in the league!!! If we traded for Jones I would be like that guy in Cleveland who got the cops called on him because he was so excited he ran through the streets screaming!!!

MaCavoy is another great option but I can't see bean town trading him especially to us.

I also like Murphy and Savard but it would be depending on the return.

Bro, the crackhead neighbours got evicted today and I got paid for taking out their furniture and I'm a be cleaning the place this week too!!! Not only are they finally gone but I'm getting paid for this ish😎😎😎</div></div>

Glad to hear things improved for you.
This virus **** is depressing as hell.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 14 at 3:16

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Good points. I agree with your take that he's likely not a top pair d but he'd be our best option and he would absolutely improve our d.

Did I turn you on to Seth or were you always a fan? For me the dream is for Columbus to fire Jarmo for no good reason and hire Chia so Dubas can rob him like Shero did with the Hall for Larson trade lol.</div></div>

I have been a fan of Jones for a bit, I think him Rielly would be a great fit.

McAvoy is another good choice IMO.
Probably not realistic to think you can get him from Boston.

Severson is good choice that is viable.
So is Murphy.
I like Savard too but the only 1 year remaining on his deal makes him less desirable then the other 2.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar 14 at 12:33

Thread: Boomer125

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>I like this. You already know I like Zacha and Markstrom, and I'm not the biggest fan of Severson, but there aren't many better realistic options. If NJ would make that trade I would if I were Dubas. I've been a huge supporter of Andersen and at one point asked people if they'd rather have him than Rielly, but now I can't see the Leafs keeping Andersen beyond his current contract. I don't think they will trade him but they should or at least seriously consider it. <a href="/users/Jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Jack_</a> has the right idea by trading him for assets and looking for a replacement and it seems we agree on who Freddy's replacement should be.

You've had many great ideas so if you already answered this I apologize but who is your top choice for D to pair with Morgan? And what say you about this sir? Does this take the cake or is it the worst case Ontario lol (I had to throw in the TPB reference 😆).</div></div>

Severson is better defensively than he is offensively.
Ische 1st pair, not sure but I'd think that's where he gets slotted.

Jones is the dream, forever.
Lmaooooo

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