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Trickster

Hugh Hefner of CF
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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSat at 1:38 pm
Thread: is Rielly's time up with Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Rielly is a #1 as he

1. Plays 20mins a night
2. QB PP unit 1
3. Has had multiple 30point seasons including a 20 goal season
4. Can play both ends but tends to prefer offense

All those make up a top pair Dman on top of that Rielly is the longest serving leaf so Dubas will try to make it his priority to keep him. Now Muzzin is the leafs best defensive Dman, but offense and playmaking goes to Rielly.



Now heres where I see things going, If Sandin comes up next season and looks really good on the PP and in the NHL in general than yes Rielly could potentially be gone as Sandin wont command as much and eventually fill in his role completly. But if Rielly ends up with a 50 point season and Sandin struggles than Dubas will need to find a way to extend him</div></div>

The four items you listed is Rielly the number 1 cause we dont have someone better? Or is legitimately a number # 1???

How many other teams would he be #1 that had say one of the guys I listed??
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 9:37 pm
Thread: What I hope for at the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Can you answer a quick question? How does that statement I make refer to Nurse at all beyond listing him as a member of a 2 on 1? Nurse is just a circumstantial part of the statement. The point is, you look for reason to blame Rielly for issues that are not his fault. Forget I even mentioned Nurse. The point was a 2 on 1 happens in OT and the opposition scores and its Rielly's fault. Rielly takes the puck up ice and creates a chance and the high forward doesn't cover and its Rielly's fault. Guys like you look for reason to justify your belief that Rielly sucks for some weird reason. He may not be the best defenceman but he's top 10 in the league. To deny that you just don't want to like him.</div></div>

So rather answering my questions you asked your own.
I'll answer when you answer mine.

I just want facts to why you think Rielly is a #1, so far you only given opinon
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 9:28 pm
Thread: What I hope for at the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Rielly is better than several of these guys.

I know you don't like Rielly and I think you look for reasons to reinforce this opinion. Like when McDavid and Nurse score in OT with Rielly defending on the 2 on 1, its Rielly's fault. He pinches and it goes the other way and the high forward doesn't do his job to back him and its Rielly's fault. He can be beaten on one on ones from time to time. But he's far better defensively than people give him credit for. He gets blamed for way too much mainly because people look for reasons to blame him.</div></div>

Why do you keep bringing up Nurse and the Oilers?
Is Nurse the that list?

Nope, in fact I said I wouldnt want Nurse over Rielly.

Try answering the questions I asked.


And while you keep bringing up that Nurse plays with McDavid and Draisaitl,dont forget that Rielly gets to play with Matthews and Marner who are no slouches either.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 8:00 pm
Thread: What I hope for at the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>I just can't respect anyone with such a wrong take on Rielly. He's doing great this year. He's a force and if you make a mistake he can make you pay. The one thing that is different for him now than when he had his huge season is the system. Under Babs it was a North South game. Rielly got the puck and they bombed it up ice for a rush chance and he piled up points. This season the team is far more a cycle team. Get the puck, keep it and wait for your optimal chance. Which is spreading out the offence a lot more. Rielly is still good defensively, he isn't Hedman but he's better than a guy like Nurse who is getting praise for playing half his minutes with McDavid or Draisaitl. Look at the article Yost did for TSN on Nurse. He's two different players in one. Terrific when McDavid is on the ice and well below average without him on the ice. Rielly has been good all year. He'll get burned evey once and a while but he burns guys way more often so I take it for what it is. He's absolutely a #1.</div></div>

I didnt name names you did.
But yes 10000% he is not Hedman.

And I would never want Nurse over Rielly.


But I can give you names of guys I would like over Rielly.

Hedman
McAvoy
Werenski
Giard
Makar
Chabot
Lindholm
Josi
Ellis
Morrissey
Ekblade
Jones
Carlson
Pietrangelo
Hughes
Dahlin
Klingberg
Heiskanen

Are these guys available? No
Are they or will they be better then Rielly? I think so.
Yes points are not everything but these guys are or will become elite enough to be considered #1 guys.

You talking about Leafs being better cycle team etc... while true the above guys would still make an impact enough to be #1. Yes points are not everything but Rielly is not defensive stalwart either. A #1 guy has to be elite.


How is Rielly elite?
Next issue is what does Rielly new dealc ook like?
He will likely get more than 5 million, what has he done to earn that?

Win a Norris? Nope.
Norris nominee? Nope.
Defensively elite? No sir.


Why is Rielly a #1 D man?
I would love to hear a factual reason here.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 4:15 pm
Thread: What I hope for at the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>I think you don't do any contracts until after the expansion draft. 1st you extend Hyman if possible but I don't want to spend more than 4 for 4 on him. Then I would talk to Rielly about extending. Get those done then see what you have to work with. Maybe bring Bogosian back as a 6/7 defenceman to play behind Liljegren and let Sandin have the 3LD spot. Hopefully Seattle takes Kerfoot. Look at a guy like Ulmark on a 2 year deal to play with Campbell who you should also look at giving a 3 year 2.5 million dollar deal or there abouts.

After all that, if you can get Loughton done, give him a 2 year deal if he's interested.</div></div>

I think we need Hyman under 4 million.
It will be hard, might have to go 6 years to make it happen.

Rielly, I either want him to walk OR trade him.
He is not a #1 D man, he should be having a career year playing next to Brodie but instead he is maybe average.

Do I have answer how to replace him? Nope.
But you cant say Rielly is #1 guy.

Go look at other teams #1 guys and see how they are producing Vs Rielly.
Hes not even defensive gem either, maybe average to slightly above average at best.

Bogosian has played well, well enough to earn a term deal and we need to have 2 of following 3 playing regularly for us next season :

Dermott Sandin, and Liljergen


Agree that Seattle is likely taking Kerfoot as they will have better D options from other teams.

I like going with Ullmark too.