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NHL Trades
Aug. 6, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
I'm not entirely sure That involving Montreal was just to stick it to Toronto
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.
Thread:
If st Louis falls out and will trade him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>They retained half of RO'R's contract and got an ahler (Adam Gaudette) and a junior prospect with probably equivalent or less value than Hirvonen above
So essentially I suggest 1st, 3rd, 3rd and Hirvonen
They got 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Abramov (and Gaudette who was a contract throw in likely).
Essentially the difference is a third to a second. Pretty dang close.</div></div>
You are forgetting a 4th
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
Thread:
If st Louis falls out and will trade him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>The above trade was damn close to what the Leafs paid for O'Reilly and aciari. What you claimed was acciari for free</div></div>
No. The blues got a first, second, and third, two jr players, and didn't have to retain on ROR.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.
Thread:
If st Louis falls out and will trade him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Apparently I wasn't so far off</div></div>
Wasn't free
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread:
New York Rangers signed Blake Wheeler (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
Wow
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NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
Thread:
Nashville Predators signed Ryan O'Reilly (4 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>One of the last places I thought he’d go</div></div>
Honestly, this was my first choice for him. He's really big into the music scene and with Nashville moving Duschene out it made sense.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 8:06 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks123</b></div><div>what if Bolduc was taking out
so Jake and the 2023 first round pick</div></div>
It just doesn't make any sense. Horvat is going to be a ufa, so the only reason the deal gets done is if they sign him. To do that they avoid competing against a free agency offers and they can offer him an extra year. But that would mean the blues are giving up really strong assets to sign a guy until he's 35 who puts up maybe 40 points on average. It makes no sense. If they wanted another center (which they have an abundance of) why wouldn't they just grab him free agency, resign ROR, grab someone else in free agency, or let someone else who is already in the organization take that role. It would be like Toronto trading Mathews for McDavid, it just doesn't make any sense
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 5:39 p.m.
Thread:
If st Louis falls out and will trade him
You don't just get Acciari for free
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild
The blues would sooner resign ROR than do that. It makes no sense and the value is way off.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild mode
Blues aren't trading Parayko. He's the #1 DFD, and if they would they aren't trading for a bunch of scraps especially Puljujärvi
Again, If toronto wants ROR, the starting point is a 1st and a prospect. Otherwise we'll keep him and toronto can lose out on a cup.
Seattle is good on RW, don't see them wanting Tank unless its to flip him to eat cap.
We just got Saad, GM's don't pick up players in FA and then flip them. It sends a message to other FA's to not sign under Armstrong.
Divisional rivals don't make trades like that. Schenn isn't worth that kind of return and especially not to Nashville
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline
https://www.hockey-reference.com/analytics/
Look who is #1 on the list. You aren't getting Acciari for that
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 26, 2022 at 5:26 p.m.
Thread:
Now that the caps are good
If you want Tarasanko, you have to at least put him on the Russian line
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 23, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
Thread:
Schenn to Toronto
Khudobin makes absolutely zero sense. He is negative value for the blues. Kral will likely never make the roster for the Blues so a late 1st and Robertson aren't getting you a #1 LW even without retention.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 23, 2022 at 7:13 p.m.
Thread:
St Louis
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>February the 21st 2012 when Ken Holland paid a 1st (who turned into Vasilevskiy) to get Kyle Quincey back?</div></div>
Nope, and even if it fit the criteria it goes to show that it rarely if ever happens. Quincey was claimed off waivers after 13 games with Detroit. He was still an under thirty player when Defenseman come into their prime when Holland wanted him back. Perron has come and gone with the Blues 3 different times. This is apples and oranges, GM's don't let players walk in free agency and then pay for them back the same year.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 23, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
Thread:
St Louis
Name the last time a GM traded assets to get back a player they let walk to free agency
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 23, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
Thread:
Scooby Dubas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Not pumped about giving 2 x 1st round picks for 2 rentals. 2024 one would need to be top 10 protected. And st louis would need to add 2 x 3rd or 4th round picks of their own.</div></div>
That's not how it works. The blues aren't giving you ROR and Barbashev for you to win the cup only for them to essentially trade up 30 spots. What even is the point of making it a top 10 protected. That's stating that you expect to finish in the bottom third of the league and not make the playoffs
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
Thread:
ROR and Knies
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Patrickkane</b></div><div>Bro what? Why does Toronto need Torey Krug lol? They already have Morgan Rielly and Sandin. They need a gritty forward that can play in the top 6, Tarasenko isn't that. Id go for Schenn if the Blues retained a bit.</div></div>
Schenn isn't getting moved with retention. Blues aren't going to move him when they already have pending free agents with ROR and Tarasanko. The point for Krug is that Toronto could take advantage of an OFD. Rielly is on IR and putting a Sandin is 22
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 21, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
Thread:
ROR and Knies
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Patrickkane</b></div><div>If you're going to use ROR as a 3C and on the 2nd pp whats the point in trading for him if you're not going to put him in a position to play at his best? You might as well trade for guys like Crouse or Dvorak.</div></div>
Agree, it would make more sense in trading for Krug, or Tarasanko and moving Nylander to LW
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2022 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread:
do we even need to spend the 2023 first or any major prospects this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>not sure how a 2nd and a prospect is bad for a guy who's production only significantly spiked last year and is now back down to the .5ppg range, as a rental</div></div>
If Hirvonen was putting up those numbers as a defenseman we'd have something to talk about. Essentially trading up 60-ish spots in a draft and in a later year with a prospect yet to show potential for a solid mid 6 forward in Barbashev with promise isn't a reasonable trade. If the Blues are making that move, they're likely already trading ROR and Tarasanko which would mean Barbashev is more likely to be resigned.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread:
Just win
How about a reverse on the original ROR trade? You can have him for Thompson? pretty please with whip cream and cherries on top?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2022 at 5:42 p.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>-Holl is way more valuable than this; but it's also worth noting that a Devils team with Dougie Hamilton, Damon Severson, and John Marino as their RD depth chart wouldn't make a ton of sense as a destination for him.
-Just gonna combine the two Blues deals to show the value disparity:
TORONTO GETS: Vladimir Tarasenko ($3M retained), Ryan O'Reilly ($2M retained), 2024 3rd
ST LOUIS GETS: Alex Kerfoot (pending UFA), Nicholas Robertson (currently injured), Rodion Amirov (still not playing), SDA, 2023 1st, 2024 2nd, 2023 3rd
So the Blues send out their top 2 trade chips, retain on both, and all you're sending them is two prospects with big injury questions marks, a guy typically ranked in the lower half of TML's top 10 prospects, a pending UFA (not really useful for a seller), and a 1st and a 2nd, with a swap of thirds. You realize when you speak it out how bad these offers are, right?
-Muzzin blocks if he has any hope of coming back. I also think Arizona has minimal interest in this - it's not a ton of value gained by taking the contract off your hands. The Bryan Little deal is the template to look at here, and Arizona prioritized getting a nearly-NHL-ready player back as opposed to future picks. I think you're gonna have to go that way (Alex Steeves? Nick Abruzzese) instead of sending picks if Muzzin is LTIRetired and fine with his contract moving to Arizona.
-Garbage deal for the Leafs, and that's coming from someone who loves Mayfield. Brodie is a clear cut top pair guy, and has been for a few years now, with an extra year of term. Mayfield is a pending UFA who can moonlight on the top pair but is best used as your 4th/5th D. The only advantage he has over Brodie is a lower cap hit. Islanders would take this deal in a heartbeat, if only to flip out Brodie for an appropriate return somewhere else.
-LA has too many young forwards as it is; Joey Anderson would be buried on their depth chart. Why not keep him around as depth? You're under the 50 contract limit with him, he has *some* NHL experience in case you need him for a few games, and you can let him loose this summer if you don't want him around. It doesn't make sense to subtract from your depth (even a guy like Joey Anderson) for no reason if you're hoping to go far - getting rid of Joey Anderson means the next man up is, who, Max Ellis? Kyle Clifford? Just keep him, no need to move someone you don't need to move.</div></div>
That's not how this works. This site is for chell trades. You send absolutely nothing from your team and get max retention top players from the other guy. Don't you know this /s
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 19, 2022 at 8:53 p.m.
Thread:
Retool Not Rebuild
St. Louis kindly says no. It doesn't make sense for either team to trade pending UFA's. It also doesn't make sense to do it with retention. Also I'm not sure how Horvat > ROR or why throwing in Barbashev makes any sense because at the end of the day its just giving the canucks barbashev.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 19, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
Thread:
what should i get
IMO I would go with the classic. The retro looks like pumpkin puke
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 19, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
Thread:
Playoffs next season
This team is stacked
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 19, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
Thread:
do we even need to spend the 2023 first or any major prospects this year
How are these getting progressively worst? What did St. Louis do to you?
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