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Forum: Armchair-GM9 hours ago
Thread: Nobokovs Mock Offseason Avalanche
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nobokov</b></div><div>You also raise reasonable questions about the costs of these RFA's, I just happened to be relying on Evolving Hockey's contract projections while also trying to keep things in line with the rest of the market with the whole 32 team mock offseason. Also with trading that 2023 1st I didn't realize Sakic said he wanted to keep it, so good note there. I do think the trade itself is decent value though with Anaheim retaining on both players, getting a top-4 D and middle-6 winger with a proven scoring record at those cap hits will help Colorado a lot.</div></div>
Fair I mean you were using data from a good modeling. The ANA trade though the last thing COL really needs to do is be spending high end assets on a top 4 caliber dman when they have Makar Toews Byram and Girard, and while they are both left shots Girard and Byram can play on the right side, or even better just use the cap space acquired in the trade instead to get Manson back. Kudos though that’s a lot of work and honestly the only real miss you had was Meyers that pretty good. Good job, love ACGM’s that stir good conversation.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Nobokovs Mock Offseason Avalanche
A few critiques: no way NAK gets anything remotely resembling that. He’s an RFA that was a waiver wire claim, Sakic is a notorious hard negotiator with those guys, personally I think he gets a 1yr $1.25M prove it deal. Nichushkin won’t get an 8 yr deal especially at $6M, look what Rust and Coleman for comps. Kuemper unless he just goes monster mode the last 2 rounds he isn’t getting that. Markstrom and Binnington are the easy comps. Sakic has said keeping the 23 1st is a priority so they won’t trade it for a Tatar Shattenkirk package. AJ Greer will never play in COL for reference check out what happened in MIL when he was prospect. Ben Meyers is a lock for the bottom 6 as is Maltsev probably. Manson is very likely to be back. Creative but lots of over pays.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Getting Younger and 2nd OVA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>LMAO, Ylonen is 22 not 23, he was also under contract in Liiga where he was left for development in hos 19 and 20 yo years. He was sent to Laval halfway through his 21 yo season to help make the transition to NA easier and develop further. This year he has played a key role for the Rocket and was brought up when needed due to injuries. This was his first full season in NA and he has 36 points in 52 games playing for the Rocket. BTW this is the same route a lot of European prospects take and many of them dont make the NHL until 23-25 where they go on to have great careers. Lehkonen was not under contract and was brought up too fast by management at the time. He missed out on some key development that prevented his scoring abilities to be more of a threat at the NHL level.

BTW raantanen took the same route to the NHL as Ylonen has but he was given his shot at 21. By your logic Lehkonen had more value than Raantanen did at the same age cause he had 1 year at 20 points before Raantanen broke into the league, which is utter ridiculousness</div></div>

Ylonen will be 23 when the season starts. Rantanen played 9 games at C with the Avs in 15-16 his d+1 year and was a 20 goal scorer in his 2nd year. But you go ahead and tell me how Rantanen followed the same path because before his age 23 season he had 80 goals.

Do me a favor don’t respond, I had you blocked because you are so condescending and such a homer and can’t handle anybody disagreeing with you.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 hours ago
Thread: How St Louis can beat Colorado in 23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>Yeah not surprised Schenn and Barbashev sucked, but tbh Saad was quietly solid, Buchnevich had a couple excellent games too. But good point, Colorado shut down the cycle you mentioned, Thomas had no space to do his thing. Blues were super rush heavy this season and struggled to sustain time. Krug out didn’t help. Surprised how well the blues d kept Colorado away from the net (mikkola helped) but eventually the volume and possession killed them.</div></div>

I think COL started to get swallowed up in the series a bit at points, the late goals in periods happening because guys got out of position, and the just complete shut down in game 5 for 20+ minutes where they just went into a shell. Personally I think something is wrong with Rantanen he missed the end of the season with illness, struggled with the puck and seemed slow the whole series. I think that his struggles really affected the top line. Kyrou was really good I thought, and he will get better especially when he learns a counter move to compliment his speed. Yeah 100% right the Blues did a great job keeping the net front clear for the most part, I also thought they did a really god job significantly better than COL did on the pk to. The PK is a massive concern for COL against EDM.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: Getting Younger and 2nd OVA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. Anderson has been basically healthy the last 2 years for the Habs. Sure he missed 4 games and 13 games in the last two years respectively but his time missed was just minor injuries.

2 Ylonen is a right winger prospect not a center prospect and played in 14 games this season. He also projects to be a more offensive version of Lehkonen who we just got a 1st + for at the deadline.

3. The total package IMO out weighs the risk on Slafkovsky or Nemec never making it. The Devils are looking to compete now not 2 years from now. That is what makes this package interesting for them as Ylonen is NHL ready now and Anderson fills a need for them.</div></div>

How is basically healthy missing 13 games this year? He isn’t worth being the center piece of a trade for 2OA sorry.

Ylonen will be 23 hasn’t even established he is a regular NHL player, Lehkonen had 2 full seasons and had 20+ pts, at the same age. I think it’s wishful thinking to think he is going to be anywhere near as good as Lehkonen.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: How St Louis can beat Colorado in 23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>It’s a little annoying having to argue with blues fans about how our forward group with 9 20 goal guys is somehow overrated. I complained all year about how we had pretty limited versatility and defensive ability from the wings. Hoping we can find our own Lehk or Nuke cuz the two guys we had like that are now retired and in Seattle.</div></div>
Yeah my contention going in was COL had more scoring depth because of scoring from the blue line. I was really surprised how little of an impact Saad, Buchenvich, Barbashev and Schenn had. The thing though that always impresses me with STL is how well they play that forward cycle on one side that ends up with a guy on the back door. Anyway good stuff mate!
Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Thread: Getting Younger and 2nd OVA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>With the Canes pick projecting to be 31st OVA and Norlinders value around the 40-45 pick I think they take this deal.

Jersey are already open to moving the 2nd pick and want a power forward in return. For added value I included the 15th OVA pick and Ylonen a projected top 6 ceiling or middle 6 floor prospect worth around the same as Norlinder. Basically this package equates to mid 1st (15th OVA) + 2 2nds and a 3rd (Ylonen = 2nd Anderson = 2nd + 3rd)</div></div>

Yeah I get that, Nemec and Slafkovsky potential far outweigh that package imo. For me Anderson is the ultimate tease, speed and size, but he can’t stay healthy and he has never even been a 30 goal scorer. Reverse the position would you trade the 2OA for a 28yr old winger that’s never scored 30 goals, a C prospect that couldn’t get into the line up on a team decimated by injuries and a mid 1st rd pick. I sure wouldn’t do it.
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