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Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:46 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PLDGEY</b></div><div>Im in the crowd that you rebuild until youve got a chance. Wasting time not taking assets for bad cap (thanks melnyk), and blowing draft picks on major reaches means that you dont get to rebuild quickly.

Hes hard to replace, but not impossible, and imho the difficulty in replacing him is offset by the returns he would net us.</div></div>

It's ok if you have this opinion but from my experience, moves like this is exactly why some teams seem to be in a perpetual rebuild or in spinning wheels mode, not able to take another step into contention. Having guys like Formenton, Brown, Pageau, Danault on your 3rd line is how you build a winner. Recycling players that just arrived at maturity for futures forces you to rebuild longer or stay mediocre/bad

So what happens to Chabot and Batherson in 4-5 years when they'll be near 30 y/o? Trade them for futures? Ok so how many Cups will the Sens win during the next 4 seasons? The answer is most likely ZERO

That's how you never end up winning.

Edit : and replace Brown is maybe possible but if you successfully do, great but you're still a bottom-5 team if all the other things stay equal. The thing is we need to improve this roster A LOT. Trading Connor Brown for a 1st round pick and a 2nd (for example) doesn't guarantee that at all, maybe in 4 years down the road? Ok but other players will "age" by then and will be Connor's age... So what do we do?

Do you start seeing what I see?
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:40 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:29 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I wasn't intending to diminish Sokolov at all. I had him just outside my <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2976967">top-100 prospects</a>. JBD was at #51.
I was just simplifying the trade to "JBD and a 1st"... But obviously that 1st will be too high if season ended today, which is why I said "or similar".

I think Devils end up keeping Severson anyway.</div></div>

Not that I thought that you were diminishing Sokolov but you didn't mention him and said that Murray was the "centerpiece of a deal for Severson"

And thanks for the link, always enjoy looking at these lists

So that return is not that bad according to your rankings... the 51st best prospect, another guy just outside your top-100 and a 2nd round round that is in fact an early 2nd round pick, which is not far from the value of a late 1st round pick... Sokolov MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR that difference...

That being said, not interested in making this deal anyway. I'll keep the young RD on his ELC and the 21 y/o AHL top-6 forward, plus the early pick where they'll get another Jarventie/Sogaard caliber prospect


Oh and where is Pinto? He's born after 2000 and will be eligible for the Calder next year. This is (approx) how Sens fans would rank our prospects at the moment :

1- Jake Sanderson (you have him 2nd)
2- Shane Pinto (Not ranked)
3- Ridly Greig (you have him 83rd, he should be much higher than JBD to be honest)
4- Jacob Bernard-Docker (you have him 51st)
5- Mads Søgaard (Not ranked)
6- Roby Järventie (you have him 91st)
7- Lassi Thomson (Not ranked)
8- Filip Gustavsson (Not eligible)
9- Egor Sokolov (you said you have him just outside the top-100)
10- Tyler Kleven (Not ranked, but I see you have him as an Honorable Mention)
11- Tyler Boucher (you have him at 70th but most Sens fans don't have him in our top-10 at the moment)
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12- Angus Crookshank (very underrated but still shouldn't be top-100, tier cut-off between Boucher and him)
13- Viktor Lodin
14- Leevi Merilainen
15- Zack Ostapchuk
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 12:55 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 11:44 a.m.
Always been a Provorov fan but he has been struggling the last 2 years. He's also a LD which we don't need at all.

Greig is way too important for the future to sacrifice in a deal we don't need to make. Also, giving up that 2023 1st round pick is still very risky.

Sign Giroux as a UFA, if not explore another avenue.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsfan2121</b></div><div>What are your thoughts on jake Sanderson</div></div>

Future stud ala Jaccob Slavin.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Only Ottawa draft miss recently was Boucher (still so soon so could be okay) . Other than that I feel like Ottawa has done very well recently in the 1st round. Not to mention the other picks they’ve made.</div></div>

The late Bryan Murray revamped the drafting department in 2007, so starting in 2008, Ottawa's drafting has been excellent in the vast majority of drafts (first pick was Erik Karlsson at 15th OA, Murray traded up from 18th OA to get it). Murray also hired Trent Mann in 2011-12 who is now the head of drafting.

That being said, the 2021 class looks bad for now, except for Johansson and Latimer. Hopefully it'll improve but I will always dislike the Boucher pick, unless he really booms into a Wilson type.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Wheeler hated the picks the Sens took in 2020. Greig is ripping up the WHL rn. Jarventie has been putting up decent numbers as a 19 year old in the AHL. Sanderson is over a PPG in college as a 19 year old with less of an offensive team than they did last year. Better numbers than Makar at the same age. And Stutzle has been playing really well on both ends ever since he made the switch to centre</div></div>

Not to mention Merilainen (3rd round) was going to be Finland's starter at the WJC. Sokolov (late 2nd) has been doing really well in the AHL. And Daoust (5th round) is one of my favorite darkhorse prospects in the organization (had very intriguing advanced stats in the Q last season). Oh and forgot, Tyler Kleven is a beast in the making (ala Joel Edmundson but even nastier)
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 11:31 a.m.
Thread: Big move
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 11:24 a.m.