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ZiggyPalffy

Formerly BF3351
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I encourage all hate comments and reserve the right to laugh at each and everyone of them. My top 5 favorite hockey players 1. Ziggy Palffy 2. Drew Doughty 3. Peter Forsberg 4. Wayne Gretzky 5. Marty McSorely.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 6:27
Thread: Is this fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Stats don't agree with you. The majority of players age pretty hard right where he is. Sure there are exceptions but most do.

For a perfect example look at the excellent 2003 draft class.

At a quick glance the following were #1Cs at some point in their career
At peak:

Franchise C's
Getzlaf
E Staal
P Bergeron

#1 C but not franchise
Carter
Kesler

Maybe 1C for a bit but didn't maintain
M Richards
Backes

Check out that list. All of Getzlaf, E Staal and Bergeron deserve to be discussed with him.

How has that list done over the last two years? The only one still an all star is Bergeron.

Father time is a bi***</div></div>

Kopitar is better offensively than Bergeron bud. He's been better despite not having as good of linemates. If Kopitar was in Boston and Bergeron was in LA i bet they'd have Kopitar over Bergeron, but that's a separate argument.

I don't get your point. Kopitar and Bergeron are still playing extremely well. Every draft class seems to have their ageless wonders. I'm not saying Father time won't catch up to Kopitar, I'm saying it hasn't yet and it likely won't for another 3+ years.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 5:25
Thread: Is this fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>He might still be solid right now. But in 4 years Dubois will be entering his prime and Kopitar would have declined. You have to make up for that imo.</div></div>

Kopitar isn't just solid he's a top 15 Center and a top 10 center in CBj. He's still an elite playmaker and an elite two way center. I added Akil Thomas in my counter offer who has top 6 potential.

Realistically Kopitar 2M retained = Dubois, even though I think Kopitar retained is worth more.

People think Dubois is worth more because he's younger and he's all the sudden going to be a 70-80 point player which is not evenly a likely scenario. Technically at 23 he is in his prime as we speak. Coming off a 49 point season I don't see how Kings add in this scenario, at all.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 5:13
Thread: Is this fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Dubois is worth more than Kopitar. You were gonna slot Kopitar as your 3C in 1-2 years. Don’t lie, I’ve seen your future lineups.

Bemstrom has more potential than Thomas. This deal doesn’t even make sense.</div></div>

I slotted him their because of Byfield and Vilardi, where was i supposed to put him? On the wing? Lol.

I have a lot of respect for you and you're one of my favorite users on here, but you're not looking into this enough.

Research Kopitar, he hasn't slowed down despite not having the greatest linemates and playing on a rebuilding team. He's never injured. He'll be just as good for another 3-4 years.

Dubois is good, but despite having Panarin and Atkinson as linemates he's never put up an impressive amount of points and is overrated in many ways.

Kopitar is better in every aspect and brings cup experience and an elite 2 way game to the team. Things Dubois can't bring.

You're undervaluing Kopitar and overvaluing Dubois. You make your excuse for Kings adding because of Kopitars age, yet there are no signs of him aging in his game. Just watch him and you'll find out.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 5:02
Thread: Is this fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Dubois is worth more than Kopitar at this stage simply for contract and years of control left. He's a hall of famer in my opinion but he's signed for 4 years for 33-37 year old seasons. Most likely he gets consistently worse.

The flipside is Dubois is like 23 and signed for 2 years then team control as RFA.

While Kopitar was certainly the better player the last two years aging curves tell us that the most likely scenario is Dubois is the better over the next 4 and he'll be cheaper</div></div>

Dubois cheaper than 8M in 2 years, i doubt it. Yes he's cheaper right now, but within the next 2 years Kopitar is and will be better than Dubois. They're not just upgrading at center, they're getting a proven champion. A 2 time cup winner, 2 time selke winner, and Tortorella's dream center. It might seem like Kings would be adding, but don't be surprised, it very well could be the other way around especially if Kopitar is retained 2M+
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 8 at 4:44