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Forum: Armchair-GM24 minutes ago

Thread: Offers for Jay Beagle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Beagle and a 3rd for Hutton and a 6th</div></div>

I think I like this one the best. Hutton sucks but can be buried for the year and then he’s off the books.

Forum: Armchair-GM39 minutes ago

Thread: Simple cap maneuvering

Eriksson deal is pretty close I think.
Nobody will give a pick for Benn.
Stecher should at least grab a 3rd IMO

Forum: Armchair-GM44 minutes ago

Thread: Cap Compliant

As a Canucks fan I’d probably do the 2nd trade but not the first. Myers isn’t great and has a bad contract, but swapping him and Stecher out for Zaitsev is the exact opposite thing VAN needs. Their biggest issue is suppressing shots and Zaitsev is the worst of the three at it.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: Lotto win - one trade - sign Marky Toffoli DeMelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>What if you trade one of your goalies (if Markstrom resgins)</div></div>

Yeah, using Demko +2nd and 4th is the most common Eriksson trade I’ve done on here, and most of the DET fans seem to like it. I’d be fine with it too if Markstrom re-signs at a reasonable cap hit.

But I just keep coming back to whether it’s better asset management to use Boeser as the trade bait. As a VAN fan I feel like I’d rather have;
Toffoli, Demko, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 4th
Vs
Boeser, Domingue, 1st

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Marner

Wow, ANA gladly accepts.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Cant wait for the Gms reactions to this one

You've spent too much of the money that would be freed up next season. $20.5 mill is enough for Petey and Hughes, but what about the other 5 roster spots that need to be filled after that? Plus Ferland is healthy and you haven't accounted for performance bonuses against the cap either.

As far as specific moves, I'd stay far away from that Hall deal. The Montour trade is okay, but I'd take out Demko and Benn. Also, Juolevi will be on the third pair next year IMO. He should be in the lineup over Fantenberg right now.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: Lotto win - one trade - sign Marky Toffoli DeMelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>I would personally trade Juoveli and virtanen with Eriksson to move him. I don't see Juoveli turning into that good of a player, but he still has potential. I still think Boeser has tons of potenial</div></div>

The problem with that is Juolevi has very little value at the moment and Virtanen’s has taken a momentary hit after he’s been benched by Green. I still think both guys have another level to reach. I’m hoping Juolevi has earned the 2LD spot by the start of 2021/22.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 6:26 pm

Thread: Lotto win - one trade - sign Marky Toffoli DeMelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils accept but a line of Laf-Petterson-Boeser would be sick</div></div>

No doubt! Just exploring different ways of moving Eriksson though. If VAN uses Boeser to do it they could actually get a decent return still rather than shipping out more futures with nothing coming back. Plus Miller is dynamite with Petey and Toffoli would be a good 2RW with Horvat.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:16 pm

Thread: Lotto win - one trade - sign Marky Toffoli DeMelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>the cap hell vancouver will be in when they have to sign pettersson, hughes, and lafrenière to 10mil+/8yrs contracts will be unreal</div></div>

Getting rid of Eriksson's contract alleviates a ton of the cap pressure for Petey and Hughes extensions, then the Canucks would have to make some tough choices in 3 years with who to let go so they can sign Laf. Horvat, Miller and Ferland's deals expire that year, so I'd expect Miller and Ferland walk at the least.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 2:59 pm

Thread: Where do you think this canucks armchair team will finish in a season

I don't mind this roster, but it obviously depends on if they can fit all the pieces under the cap. I like the idea of acquiring Fleury, but the D is still a little undermanned IMO. I like Greiss as a solid backup as well, but the biggest question here as far as the team making the playoffs will be Demko's play. If he can take the next step in his development then this team could definitely make it, but he'll have to basically provide what Markstrom has the last two years.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 1:38 pm

Thread: COLUMBUS FANS- what do you think

VAN shouldn't pay anything to get rid of Baertschi, Sutter, or Benn; they all have expiring deals in 2021. If they're going to pay to get rid of contracts it NEEDS to be Eriksson, Beagle or Roussel.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 8:22 pm

Thread: Ideal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>I wouldn't offer more than 3.5 for him for 3 years max unless he will accept less AAV. Guy has some issues with entitlement it seems.</div></div>

Curious to see what happens with JV. I’m betting Green puts him in the lineup for Game 2 against MIN to see if the fire has been lit.

As for a 3.5 x 3 offer sheet, I think VAN definitely matches it if the plan is to hold onto him. If they’re already considering trading him to free up cap space then maybe they take the pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 6:20 pm

Thread: I dont want FA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skytown</b></div><div>Agreed. I would no doubt love to have Marky AND Demko here for the future, but like you said, Demko might/probably could be used as a sweetener somewhere.

Does DiPietro carry any value?? Package him and a pick instead of Demko? I’ve never been that high on DiPietro, and don’t like his size. Great junior player and fared well in the AHL this year. But when you have ELITE snipers picking corners all day long, is he really gonna be a good NHL tendy when he’s giving up 5” above his shoulders?</div></div>

I think DiPietro definitely has value, especially because he'll be expansion exempt. The question is whether the Canucks or another team values his upside enough to be an eventual starter.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:56 pm

Thread: I dont want FA

I mostly agree with you. Despite Benning giving up a 1st in the Miller trade and a 2nd/Madden for the Toffoli rental, this team is still on the way up and can't afford to be chasing big-money FA's. I think they should definitely move on from Tanev unless he'll take a one year deal, and Toffoli would be nice but they can't afford him unless a significant bad contract heads out.

The only exception for me is with Markstrom; he's the team MVP two years in a row and should continue to play at a high level the next few seasons. Will he take a reasonable cap hit to stay in VAN? And if he does, could Demko be used as the trade bait in a package to get rid of an Eriksson/Beagle/Roussel? There's a lot of hurdles there, but I'm betting the team will look hard at making something like that work if they're really convinced on bringing Marky back.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:35 pm

Thread: Revised Plan Year 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks33</b></div><div>The idea is that Roussel spent the past season playing with Horvat and puts up good numbers like he did before his injury. An expiring deal could be valuable at the deadline if the Kraken are looking to acquire picks.

I get what you're saying though. If the Canucks have to give up something to ensure Seattle take Roussel, then so be it.</div></div>

I get where your head is at after you explained the Roussel scenario in your other post. That would be an ideal situation if he played well enough to earn some top six time and become an attractive option for Seattle.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:34 pm

Thread: Revised Plan Year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks33</b></div><div>If you remove empty net points, a healthy Roussel playing with Horvat last season put up pretty much the exact same numbers as Pearson did this season. Moving Pearson would be one of the few positive value trades we could make and I don't think it would effect the team that much. More importantly, we have younger options stepping in as soon as next year with Podkolzin, Hoglander and Lind. Probably two of those guys will earn spots at least. It's just about holding over for a year until that happens. Considering that Eriksson got time on the second line, I think Roussel and Leivo are pretty good linemates for Horvat. Leivo is also a perfect stop gap at forward and would likely take a 1 year, show me deal as his season was cut short due to injury.

There was a rumour that management was discussing a one year deal with Tanev a while ago. I'm not sure how credible it is, but given that Tanev has expressed strong interest in returning I wouldn't be surprised if he took it.</div></div>

Good points, and I do like Roussel's game, but I don't think you want to bank on him in the top 6 unless it's filling in for injury. I love the idea of bringing back Leivo if he'll take a one year prove-it deal. As for Tanev, I think his agent came out and said they wouldn't be interested in a one year deal, although I'm not sure what his exact wording was.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:27 pm

Thread: Gourde

VAN should definitely decline. If they're going to pay a team picks to take a cap dump it needs to be one of Eriksson, Beagle or Roussel. I think if Baertschi actually gets back in some games next season he'll prove himself useful enough that they could actually get a late pick back for him sometime before the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:22 pm

Thread: Revised Plan Year 2

Assuming VAN protects Miller, Petey, Boeser, Horvat, Virtanen and Gaudette (all seem like no-brainers if none get traded), then Seattle would have their choice of younger guys like MacEwen, Lind, or Motte. I think they'd be way more attractive for the Kraken to select than Roussel, as much as I'd like them to take Antoine.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:14 pm

Thread: Revised Plan Year 1

Good team cap maneuvering IMO, and it would be awesome if Tanev took a one year deal. I also get the idea of trying to cash in on Pearson's value before he leaves in free agency, but he might just be more valuable to VAN playing out the year. He had great chemistry with Horvat and without him and Toffoli the 2nd line wing options are pretty questionable. As much as the team needs to improve the blueline, I think I'd rather the Canucks keep Pearson in this scenario and try to sign a lower priced Dman.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:05 pm

Thread: DUMPS DUMPS EVERYWHERE - year 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brocklesnar</b></div><div>VAN is not moving Virtanen, and Beagle is not waiving.</div></div>

I think one or more of Virtanen, Stecher and Demko could be the pieces the team dangles to help get cap relief. So I'm going to disagree and say it's entirely possible that they deal Virtanen in the right deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 8:22 pm

Thread: DUMPS DUMPS EVERYWHERE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Whalers7997</b></div><div>I thought Demko was supposed to be a prized prospect?</div></div>

He is, that’s why he’s the main asset in the DET trade to get rid of Loui’s contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 27 at 6:06

Thread: DUMPS DUMPS EVERYWHERE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Play baertschi</div></div>

Haha, I'm all for it. But he'll have to legitimately beat out another player to get back in Green's good graces.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 21 at 6:24

Thread: Is this a decent team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Buffalo will take Beagle or Roussel if you get them to waive NTC</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I think Roussel could be a great target in Buffalo’s bottom 6. Vancouver would probably take anything for him if he waives</div></div>

I’d actually be sad to see Roussel go if he does get moved, I like his game. But salary has to go in VAN

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 21 at 3:03

Thread: Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>Dang that sucks. You guys are gonna lose a great player.</div></div>

True, but that's what happens with deep rosters. And looking at the possible expansion options on COL they may even lose a forward rather than a Dman depending on who SEA likes. Some good options for them on the Avs.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 21 at 2:48

Thread: TBL 20-21 v5 moving Cirelli

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Yeah, that's also possible. I gave Tampa the pick upgrade since Cirelli has proven himself at the nhl level while Cozens, although he had a great D+1 year, has not. The picks in the trade can certainly be altered.</div></div>

Cozens is obviously not yet a proven NHL player, but his ceiling is quite high. I could see a 1-for-1 deal like this benefiting both teams, but not sure if BUF would want to lose Cozens. As mentioned by someone else they may prefer to deal the 8th OA pick for help instead.

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