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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:54 p.m.

Thread: How I would finish off the summer if this team wants to compete for the playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Trading away a good young top 9 forward to dump a 2.5 million dollar contract seems like poor asset management. Poolman likely stays on LTIR if his head injury symptoms don’t fully recover so we don’t need to move him. Even if he did become healthy, we should lose a guy like Hoglander to dump 2.5 mil.</div></div>

Generally I agree with that. I’m just not sure if there’s a long term fit for Hogs on this team. If the wingers in the top 9 are Boeser, Garland, Pod, Mikheyev and Kuzmenko for the foreseeable future (and possibly Lekks soon), then he won’t be deployed in a way that will work to his strengths. On top of that, there are some younger UFA’s that might be able to be had on value deals that could compete for a Center role, like Steel. That’s a bigger organizational need IMO.

A deal like this could wait until next offseason as well, but it’s probably better to get ahead of clearing a little cap if possible. And it could be a pick as sweetener instead of Hogs, but I feel like the forward depth allows this type of move.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:18 p.m.

Thread: Best team in the pacific

Good lord man, why is Schenn a scratch?!

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 3:04 a.m.

Thread: Pionk maybe

I’d hope they wouldn’t give up that much for Pionk.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 3:02 a.m.

Thread: Mangiapain

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>Canucks pass</div></div>

They counter with Garland and Schenn for Andersson.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 5:58 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Based on Cap Landscape

But I do like the Severson-for-Garland trade if they can extend Severson at a reasonable number.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 5:57 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Based on Cap Landscape

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Beetlejuice</b></div><div>Chicago rejects</div></div>

So should VAN. Myers makes 1m more than Johnson with the same term, so I'd rather just keep Myers. Even after acquiring Severson, I think the bigger positional need is still RHD over C. They could roll Miller/Petey/Horvat as the top 3 C's or give Lazar or Joshua a shot in that 3C spot.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 5:52 p.m.

Thread: WE HAVE A WINNER IN THE MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>im surprised you did not take the leaf offer to be honest, main prospect being a rd too.</div></div>

It was a close offer for sure, and may have won if not for the inclusion of Schenn. The Canucks should be able to get a 2nd for him at the deadline, so the TOR offer was really a 1st, Niemela and Kerfoot. Still good, but there was more value in the CBJ deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 4:45 p.m.

Thread: WE HAVE A WINNER IN THE MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>Isak Rosen, Alexander Kisakov, Casey Mittelstadt and 2 Seconds. If Buffalo is somehow in the top 3 at the TDL in there division.</div></div>

The premise was to do the auction before the season starts, but the deadline works too.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 3:22 p.m.

Thread: Just get it over with

Honestly, WPG should take that and run.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1 at 6:59 p.m.

Thread: Perfect Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Probably not, but I don't have any time for Tyler Johnson</div></div>

Whoops, I just noticed that Johnson has the same term as Myers. It's a definite no from me then too. I thought he was a UFA at the end of the season.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1 at 6:56 p.m.

Thread: Perfect Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Chicago trade is horrible for Vancouver. Myers has more value than Johnson from a positional standpoint alone</div></div>

Not so sure I'd label it horrible personally. If it was the only trade in the ACGM I'd say VAN definitely shouldn't do it, as they need Myers on the current roster. But considering the Severson trade/extension it does make sense for VAN to free themselves up from the last year of Myers' deal.

Severson also won't be signing for that little though.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1 at 5:11 p.m.

Thread: We have a winner in the MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Severson + 2nd round pick
(No retention, talk all you want about extension)</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Toronto 2013 First, Topi Niemela, Kerfoot, 2024 Second for Miller (50%) and Schenn</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>North_Kariya</b></div><div>Red wings - Filip Hronek, Pius Suter, Jared McIsaac, and 2023 2nd</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Yes I would be ok for the new offer. Bean instead of nyquist.</div></div>

After careful deliberation of the 4 offers, a winner has been decided. It is.... the Columbus Blue Jackets represented by The_Cannon.

I would've also likely accepted TMLBRIAN's offer from Toronto, but there was just a little more value to be had from CBJ.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 10:02 p.m.

Thread: Getting Some BC Boys Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dk325</b></div><div>Would definitely revisit this after the season. If Johnson isn't looking like the center the Jackets kind of need him to evolve into then it's a very appealing proposal.</div></div>

Not appealing at all to VAN. A starting point might be those two prospects for Petey, not with VAN adding their 2023 1st an another B prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 9:54 p.m.

Thread: Getting Some BC Boys Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhysicalGraffiti</b></div><div>How? You’d be getting back two recent 1st rounders and one player who is expected to be a stud. Johnson is a top 10 prospect regardless of the source. Those guys rarely miss</div></div>

No offence against the two prospects, I like them both a lot. But giving up Petey (a young and established 1C) and VAN’s 2023 1st in a deep draft is nowhere near fair value.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 9:48 p.m.

Thread: Getting Some BC Boys Back

Let’s get to the more pressing issue than the Isles trade. That CBJ deal is horrendous for VAN.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 4:51 p.m.

Thread: We have a winner in the MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Figured no retention on Miller hence the inclusion. How about Miller half retained and we keep nyquist and swap him out with bean.</div></div>

I like that even more. Should I change your bid in the description?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 4:06 p.m.

Thread: Not Realistic But Fun

If Kadri is game BUF should absolutely do this.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 4:02 p.m.

Thread: Kerfoot goes hoam

Value-wise the Canucks obviously take it, but even dumping Dickinson wouldn't keep them under the cap if they want a 23-man roster. They'd need to move Pearson somewhere for it to work.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 3:56 p.m.

Thread: What do ducks fans think

Interesting move for both teams really. TOR gets some serious cap relief this year and next, but ANA weaponizes their cap space to upgrade and add picks. Nice idea.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 3:54 p.m.

Thread: Reverse ACGM 2

Not really that high on the DET deal, as I don't think Hronek is the right type of Dman the Canucks need.

The basic parts are there for the CBJ deal though. In my Miller auction ACGM a CBJ fan offered 2024 1st, Del Bel Belluz, Peeke and Nyquist, which I like a bit more. Obviously the 2023 1st is more desirable but I like the upside of DBB.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 3:50 p.m.

Thread: Verbuild In Full Steam

Smart move today. They just bought themselves another 1st round pick or prospect when they deal Klingberg at the deadline with retention.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 3:11 p.m.

Thread: We have a winner in the MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Jackets 2024 first, del bel belluz, peeke and nyquist.</div></div>

With Gus included the cap might not work for VAN. Would you be willing to do the same deal with no retention on Miller?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 3:00 p.m.

Thread: opening night

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>Yeah, it's not impossible. I think they fleeced OTT for Hamonic because he's a RHD and apparently Pierre McGuire liked him, haha.</div></div>

And I agree a forward needs to go, but they might as well get value for a more valuable asset. Miller is the obvious choice because of his contract situation and talent, Garland is next, then possibly Hoglander if he were able to return a young RHD or C on an ELC.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 2:58 p.m.

Thread: opening night

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BenningTruther</b></div><div>fair, i think one body needs to be moved out of the top 9 and pearson seems like the guy for me. if they got a third for hamonic anything is possible lmao</div></div>

Yeah, it's not impossible. I think they fleeced OTT for Hamonic because he's a RHD and apparently Pierre McGuire liked him, haha.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 2:57 p.m.

Thread: july29update

Personally I don't want Dumba, so the MIN deal is definitely a no for me.

If it costs assets to dump Myers, they should just hold onto him.

Don't see NSH trading Fabbro unless there's an upgrade coming their way (in a package for Miller maybe?)

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