Jul 28, 2015
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<a href="/users/Hawkssince71" target="_blank">@Hawkssince71</a> I agree with just about everything you said. I have 1 slight difference. We'll see how far COL gets. They have a GREAT combination of speed AND size. Let's not forget that who the last 6 Stanley Cup Finals teams were. BOS, STL, WAS, Vegas, PIT, NSH. Only 1 of those teams was a pure speed team. Even Vegas had/has big forwards like Reeves, Tuch, Bellemere, Perron, Karlsson, Carpenter...all 200lb plus forwards. We can project out into the future on where the trend is going, but I'd also argue that if we take a look at the standings so far this year...teams with size are leading the way compared to teams with speed. Exception of EDM because McDavid's not human. I know the NHL is trending that way, but the transition is going slower than what 95% of people think. <a href="/users/Hawksince71" target="_blank">@Hawksince71</a> I'm not saying Dadonov makes these guys cup contenders, but it's helps solve 1 problem...because the team has many.
With regards to finding those bargain pieces....that's actually one of the better things Stan does. You're calling Nichushkin can good bargain pick up, but he's got 5 points in 22 games. Let's rank that compared to the bargain shopping Stan's done...finding UFAs and signing them... Kubalik, Kahun, Kampf, Rutta, Kempny, Panarin. I mean It's even arguable whether Rutta was a better pick up over Nichushkin. Yeah...he had 1 really good breakaway that happened to be against the Hawks, but it's not like he's a driving force for that team.
Bura was a great trade for Sakic! Bura wasn't being utilized to his potential in Washington and Sakic saw it. Same with Kadri. I don't have any issue with giving another GM some credit, but we also need to give Stan his due for getting DeHaan (for figuratively NOTHING) and signed Lehner for $5M without losing any assets at all.
There are all kinds of terms...rebuild...retool...re-whatever... PIT went 7 years between cups. Why can't that happen again for another team? $10.5M for what Toews provides is too much. I get it. $7M for what Seabs provides is too much. Teams can handle 1 overweight contract, but two is tough. There are creative ways to shed a guy like Seabs if we can get picks as well. Don't forget that it was REALLY close we traded him at the draft last year to VAN for a swap of 1sts. Just a swap. Not even the #3 outright. Go back to VAN and see what it'll take now? That's where picks can help.
I do agree that the Hawks need speed. The need a True #1dman too...I'd even argue more so.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Actually, at the allstar break they were out of the playoff pickture because Darling couldn't stop a beachball. Mrazek was average all year long, it never fluctuated, he stayed in the 25-30 range for most of his stats, which put him in the average category. Mrazek isn't a world beater, he's just Meh, Lehner has proven he's good when he's behind a good defensive system like in New York with Trotz, and that's what makes him desirable right now. What he's doing in Chicago is impressive, but for a team with such a strong defensive unit, it's actually better if he can stay concentrated during games when he doesn't see a lot of shots.</div></div>
I'll admit that there is an element to the extreme ends of seeing shots. Example. Mrazek's 2nd game of the year...3 goals allowed, but only saw 13 total shots and that's including OT. I'll agree that the single game's .769 SV% is not a true reflection of a player AND another game against NYR... BUT you're taking this to an extreme. Mrazek still faces ~30 shots a game usually.
So Let's look at what <a href="/users/Gofnut999" target="_blank">@Gofnut999</a> was talking about another way. Take out the (2) extremes....the (2) shutouts AND the TBL/NYR games mentioned above. Now we're finding out who Mrazek really is...2.93 GAA and .892 SV%.
Let's do that same thing for Lehner...2.3 GAA (on a FAR worse team) and .936 SV%.....