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Forum: NHLTue at 1:07 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>But the regular season never means jack come playoffs. Otherwise we'd just hand the Stanley cup to the presidents trophy winner every year.</div></div>

sure it does. especially when you change the seeding from what should have been to what it ended up being. tampa shoulda drawn toronto or florida first round. they could easily have rolled back the standings to game 68 or whatever and used those and done the normal 16 team format. still a 5 month layoff between final regular season game and game 1 of the playoffs and still thinking it matters just as much as a playoff bout happening april-june is it. Celtics are a few games away from being in the nba finals. thats an asterisk playoff too. They (nhl and NBA) took a product that home ice matters, fans, crowd energy, traveling etc. and made it a neutral zone exhibition. tell me home ice for a team that went 22-4-9 during the regular season on their ice vs 22-10-3 is a minimal impact. tell me a team that went 18-9-7 vs 18-16-2 on their home ice is a minimal impact (ironic they actually played on their home ice just without the fans...) or 25-6-4 vs 16-15-3, 23-8-4 vs 17-15-2... tampas a good team, dallas is a good team but they would have both been on the road in both situations if boston or aves/blues win their series. the way dallas was playing they were only 4 points up from nashville of being a wildcard team. You will never convince me that this path to the cup was even close to as meaningful as any other stanley cup in history.

NBA is the exact same way. philly would have rolled boston in philly. toronto would have rolled boston in toronto. These are neutral site exhibition tournaments. I would be saying the exact same thing if boston was there in place of Tampa. I would still want them to win, but the significance of this cup vs others is a disgrace to their respective sports in my eyes.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 8:57 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>I think you are majorly undervaluing their team just due to the fact that its <strong>a different type of playoff</strong>. Yes TBL started slow but they were <strong>one of, if not the, best team in the league the last 2 months</strong>. It is evident you can plainly see the talent up and down the lineup, it's not even close. And they're doing this all without Stammer. Say what you will about the <strong>lay off</strong> and whatever, but it is easy to see why they are in the ECF's/SCF's almost every other year. They are a bonafide annual cup contender: Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Sergachev, Gourde, and Johnson, and then you have what seemingly feels like an endless role call of specialists and spark plugs like Palat, Killorn, Cirelli, Maroon, and then you fill out the rest of your bottom 4 with guys who have had degrees of varying success around the league like Coburn, McDonagh, Bogosian, and Shatty, but also seem to make Luke Schenn work somehow too as a 6th/7th.

Dude, I'm not even a Lightning fan but i think it's pretty clear to see why they are in the cup finals.</div></div>

ONE, im quoting back to march... where the lightning were absolutely lost as a team. they didnt really start slow after the layoff. Maybe during the regular season but thats what happens when youve got some vets. regardless. vasy had been giving up between 3 and 4 goals a game in the 7-8 starts before the season ended. they were losing games to bad teams, had no chemistry anywhere in the lineup. Injuries everywhere, guys were pretty obviously playing through some stuff during the march stretch as they were trying to catch boston for the 1 seed.

Comparing march to now is like comparing an apple to a gorilla. There is no similarity between August 1st and march 10th. Dallas stars were one of the worst teams in hockey based on the last 10 games as well as tampa when the season was cancelled. the 5 month layoff is longer than most playoff teams get to begin with. nevermind the fact that they literally disregard the ENTIRE seasons worth of games and decided seeding based on some BS 3 preseason roundrobin style games lol. Khudobin got hot during the summer, lightning scorers got hot in the summer and decided to play defense. Am i slighting tampa in any way saying they arent a good team? no. What i am saying is this "playoff" bears little to no resemblance of the regular season that took place because if it did tampa and dallas likely arent where they are today. Colorado philly st.louis vegas and boston were the 5 hottest teams going into the break. Lightning, stars, islanders, bluejackets, were 4 of the worst at the time.