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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 6:11 p.m.
Thread: 2425 Leafers
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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 4:27 p.m.
Thread: 2425 Leafers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>He has played with both Matthews &amp; Taveres and as such Marner and Nylander. Look at Robertson's production with those lines versus without.

Hall and Kurashev are both better, especially Kurashev who plays a complete 200 ft game and is very good defensively. And no, Kurashev has not been tied to Bedard the entire season no different then your argument with Robertson and the top 2 lines.</div></div>

Sure, <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=TOR&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8481582&amp;p2=8479318&amp;p3=8478483&amp;p4=8477939&amp;p5=8475166" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">let me know what I'm missing</a> because the actual data suggests that Robertson doesn't play with AM/JT/MM/NY a lot. Of the four, the most he's with is JT at 80 minutes all season and....is worse with him than without? If you want to be obnoxiously specific, Robertson <em>has</em> played with the top four forwards, but based on the TOI it's basically negligible. And even when he's been put with them, it doesn't provide any evidence it's actually boosted his production. Entirely plausible he'd get more goals and assists with them, but that's not what has happened this season which is what you were implying.

We can look at Kurashev next, whose<a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=CHI&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8480798&amp;p2=8484144&amp;p3=8477450&amp;p4=8474870&amp;p5=8473422" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">most common linemate</a> is Bedard. <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=CHI&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8484144&amp;p2=8480798&amp;p3=0&amp;p4=0&amp;p5=0" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Narrowing it down</a>, he's played more with Bedard than with anyone else. The values also imply he's not only been significantly less productive without Bedard than with, they've been pretty bad together in general. Maybe that's just consequence of the Blackhawks overall season. Regardless, he's absolutely been strapped to Bedard this season.

So my original post still stands. The "Leafs player only good because other good players" argument doesn't work with Robertson. Absolutely makes a strong case for 2nd best forward on your team considering he doesn't need to rely on star players to produce and actually has knees. He's absolutely worth more than a 4th or whatever pittance picks he's been getting on this forum.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:25 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>To much for Boosh. Look what Bogo got that should be the price for him rn.

Domi at that price NTU. Either a long term 3m range deal or have fun

Roy will get more in FA there are not a lot of good RD out there besides him and Pesce.

Dewar will probs get more, Robertson and Benoit less

And Kampf is sticking around. They will probs get him better linemates next season</div></div>

I think 2 million is fine for Lyubushkin. He's significantly younger than Bogosian and can actually play top four minutes on Toronto. Also he's a right shot which I'm told is worth a million alone.

I don't entirely disagree on Domi being a lot of 4 million, but again, I believe this is the realistic ask for him. Anything under 4 is great.

Regarding Roy, other RHD on the market are: Montour, Tanev, Walker, Pesce, Carrier, DeMelo. 6 million is the most I'd offer any of those guys. The other option, as I mentioned, would be a trade but it might need to be done before the draft if the 2024 1st would be in play. Regardless of what happens, filling the position should be priority number one.

Dewer, Robertson and Benoit aren't going to be much more or less than what I put down. maybe a 500k difference at most. The key for me would be getting Robertson and Benoit at two years.

Getting rid of Kampf freed up a lot of space on the roster to make depth moves, if you can trade him, you have to do it. He's a fourth line centre and hasn't been worth his contract. I don't think better linemates fixes the problem for a 4C guy, unless you want to get Engvall and Mikheyev back.
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