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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:40 pm
Thread: NYR doesnt know how to develop prospects
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Do you really think that those 3 guys are #1-3 guys anywhere else right now? Sandin and Lundkvist are probably comparable and he’s out 6th D, he’s you’re 5th and arguably you’re 4th over Holl. And didn’t have a secured spot last season. Does this help you understand? You’re 4th = our 6th.

Fox&gt;Reilly
Lindgren similar to Brodie(not much difference if any)
Trouba similar to Muzzin(again not much difference)
Miller &gt; Holl
Nemeth &gt;Dermott
Lundkvist = Sandin</div></div>

It doesn't help me understand because you literally went off on a tangent here. I disagree with your opinions on the player comparisons but I don't want to debate you anymore because I can feel my brain smoothing out.

Toronto's defense doesn't have anything to do with your team screwing up top prospects.
Forum: NHLFri at 2:20 pm
Thread: Serious Question Are the Ranges and Kings Mismanaging all their Prospects
I don't think the Kings have a problem. They truly didn't bottom out until like 2018 and as others have stated, are trying to ease their prospects into the NHL. For them I think it's revisiting this in a few years.

The problem with the Rangers seems to be more of a problem in their development staff and scouting. The Rangers drafting has been seriously lackluster since 2013; having 2014-2016 being entirely busts save for Shesterkin and Chytil. Additionally, the fact that Laf, Kakko, Kravtsov and Andersson have all had a hard time in the NHL seems to be more down to the backroom. I don't think the management for the Rangers is all too fantastic given how they just fired their President, GM and Coach last season and overhauled their roster in response to a single game.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:19 pm
Thread: NYR doesnt know how to develop prospects
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>3 guys fighting over 2 spots. None of them are sure things who have solidified a spot. Liljgren is going to be a career 6th/7th guy and not in a good way. These are the guys you can afford. Dermott makes what his value is to the leafs at this point. He isn’t a 4M guy in a deep D trying to keep his job from a budding young star. Dermott could be so much more if they hadn’t screwed him the last 2 seasons.</div></div>

Alright so now it's three guys over two spots instead of three guys over one spot. Liljegren and Dermott are both good enough for the Leafs roster and you can only pick one, this doesn't seem like as much of a problem and you're making it out to be. And again, Dermott has 208 NHL games currently, I fail to see how the team has screwed him over.

Personally I'd be more upset that the Rangers are throwing top 10 draft picks into a blender than Toronto's third pairing, but to each their own.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 10:57 am
Thread: NYR doesnt know how to develop prospects
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>UpsideDownQue</b></div><div>Mikheyev was a signed at age 24 and immediately made the NHL roster. Not sure what that has to do with prospect development
Johnsson going from a 7th rounder to a half a point per game NHLer with the leafs is not a sign of bad prospect development lol
Kapanen was a success for TOR - they got him after his D+1 year and turned him into a useful NHLer
Liljegren, Gauthier, and Bracco are the only ones where the Leafs can really be blamed for poor development (and Liljegren still has time to become a useful NHLer)</div></div>

Even the poor development guys have reasons why they didn't pan out: Gauthier was a Nonis pick and was only projected to be a third liner at best. Liljegren should be on the team this year and is still up for debate. Bracco was a disappointment but it wasn't for a lack of trying on the part of Toronto.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>You can add Dermott, Sandin, Robertson to that list as well. Pretty sure Fox, Miller, Chytil, kreider, shesty, Buch have been developed in an excellent way. Laf and Kakko played minimal minutes on a 3rd line up until now and shortened seasons so your jumping the gun since they actually play well but haven’t been getting the 1PP time for scoring. You can also add strome, Zibby and bread to that list since they all have hit new heights since coming to NYR.. Lias who throws away silver medals couldn’t be developed, Kravs is heading in the wrong direction as well but has the potential. Nils is coming along just fine.</div></div>

Dermott and Sandin look promising and are on the team. Robertson is being managed correctly. And again, none of those guys are top 10 picks.