palhal

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Have followed sports most of my 60 years. Long time Toronto resident now retired by the lake, north west of TO
Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago
Thread: Leafs be Selling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>During Ceci's 7 yr career he has been a + player twice (including this season)
During Subban's 11yr career he has been a -player 4 times (including this season) that's a + player 7 seasons

Can't be basing value on a player over 30 games - if that was case than Nylander would have dealt for 5th rnd pick to be rid of his atrocious contract</div></div>

Ceci has generally played big minutes on poor to average teams so it's logical he would be a minus player. Subban generally has played on average to good teams. The facts really don't stand up to this current edition Subban being value at 6.5m and giving up first and second rounder to acquire him. If you truly believe Subban is worth it a trade fine, but IMO the Leafs can spend 6.5m a lot better than Subban and keep their picks.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago
Thread: Trade Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oiler3535</b></div><div>The trade would definitely need to be during off season when every team can fit anybody.
If the headliner were a Norris calibre RD then maybe 1 for 1 works.



I've watched every leaf game since long before any current player was on the team. Marner is flashier, and nice that he kills penalties now. But he has many brutal giveaways. And there is very little evidence he can drive a line. Whereas every player that plays with Nylander does better than without him, and he is just as good at Marner at everything but foot speed and occasionally hustle. And Nylander is one of, if not THE best guy at 5 on 5 with the puck. He might lack the top end skill of Marner, but at 4 million cheaper he has way more value.</div></div>

I find Nylander good even very good at puck handling, but it hasn't transformed into great production. He's been a 60 point guy in his two best seasons. Even this year where he getting raves...he's on 55 point pace. I don't see all the love for Nylander at all by Nylander supporters.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago
Thread: Leafs be Selling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Subban 11yrs 675 gp 313 pts +35
Barrie. 9 yrs 517 gp 320 pts -71
Ceci 7 yrs 473 gp. 125 pts. -54

How are Subban and Ceci close?</div></div>

You're right it isn't close at all. Subban 2 goals 3 assist, 5 points, minus 15. this season. Ceci 1 goal, 6 assist, 7 points plus 6. UFA Ceci makes a slight overpay at 4.5 this season but the Leafs have 4.5m next season to sign Dman. Subban even with your retention makes 6.5m this year and for the following two seasons. It's 2019...almost 2020. Subban is terrible value at now and in future and you want to give a first and second rounder and the superior Ceci to acquire this version of Subban.
Want to talk about the Barrie. He does get some PP time but is just 3 goals and 10 assists, for 13 points and is a minus 12. Sorry it's really mindless of folks to think Ceci is the problem on defence for the Leafs.