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Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
desperate measures
Montreal is going to aim for playoffs next season.
Perhaps a lofty goal, but they could get closer in the off-season.
Savard won't be moved until they know where they stand, which hopefully won't be before next year's deadline.
His value won't be clear until closer to that point in time and neither will his availability.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Fixsburgh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div><a href="https://youtu.be/NHE0VW8kQqo?si=RnO-2o8PQLjJJNJU" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Sprong</a></div></div>
Thanks, that was interesting.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ItzMeTaboo</b></div><div>The only thing that would worry me here is unless Sullivan is fired this Summer then there is no point in bringing Sprong in. He didn't work in Sully's system before.</div></div>
Interesting video posted by aedoran. Not sure if there is a way to better incorporate him to get him into a top 6 role.
In conclusion, it may be too much of a risk, but there is potential to get offensive ability at a cheaper price by accepting that risk. Might be worth exploring alternatives instead but similar UFAs in their prime aren't in abundance.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 12:43 p.m.
Thread:
Fixsburgh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>Habs easily pass on that trade its horrible</div></div>
Those are just examples. Trade Rakell and Smith for picks/prospects or similar players.
If you get picks/prospects, you might be able to get those specific players using those assets.
Point is to send out those 2 players to make some other changes and free up some cap space.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 2:11 a.m.
Thread:
zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Think you've got a typo my friend, Beck was the piece coming with MTLs 1st.</div></div>
Think he meant replace Reinbacher with the 1st.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Sat. at 10:32 a.m.
Thread:
(CAR/OTT) - Rees for 2024 6th (OTT)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Svechy37</b></div><div>Rees was a pretty fun player to watch two years ago...don't really know what happened. I know the whole AHL situation isn't ideal, and going to a new AHL team with Springfield was a big adjustment, but he was just plain awful with them. Played 2nd line sometimes, mostly on the 4th line when he wasn't scratched, in which he was a lot. I really like Rees physical play, and he was a beast in 22-23 after winning the calder cup, but I just wish he reaches the NHL one day. I don't think we would've ever gave him a good chance in the NHL, but I really wish he improves with Belleville/Ottawa, and getting a 6th rounder for what he is now is decent.</div></div>
As far as I know he's missed a lot of time between COVID, injuries, and suspensions. He seems to have gotten away from offense and leaned more into physical play, lost his identity, and squandered his opportunities.
All those factors have resulted in poor development and lost confidence in his ability to contribute positively at the NHL level.
Better chance as a reclamation project than a typical 6th round pick.
Forum:
Montreal Canadiens
Sat. at 8:36 a.m.
Thread:
Can Dobes be an NHL goalie
I was often the one pointing out that he has the potential to be our next starter.
With Montembeault for 3 years and Fowler potentially ready soon after, I'm not sure how much opportunity Dobes will get, so he'll have to show well when he does get a chance.
If Montembeault and Primeau are consistent and healthy until Fowler is ready to play in the NHL, that chance may not come however.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Thu. at 6:20 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>It matters for some players and for others it doesn't. Not everyone is the same. Dahlin played on the right side in Sweden, which led to him being the consensus #1 pick in the draft. He played on the right side all last season and was a Norris candidate all year, until he got injured late in the season. Dahlin himself said he prefers playing on the right side. He can see the ice better there.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>And that's why I said you're missing the point.
This whole thread is about the Buffalo Sabres and their apparent overwhelming amount of LHDs. Only one is playing on his off-hand: Dahlin.
Byram (LHD)- Dahlin (LHD)
Power (LHD)- Jokiharju (RHD)
Bryson (LHD)- Clifton (RHD)</div></div>
You said it matters for some players and for others it doesn't.
That's not true, it matters for everyone. It fundamentally changes the way you have to play. It affects strategy and teammates as well.
You can work around it and some players handle it better than others, I'm only saying it does make a difference, even with Dahlin.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Thu. at 3:17 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>And you also seem to be completely missing the point.
Dahlin was literally preferred over ever other player in his draft class. He was the consensus #1 overall pick...He got there by playing on the right side.
Last year, he finished 8th in the league in Norris votes. There were 4 RHD who finished ahead of him in voting. So, sure maybe you prefer 4 RHDs over Dahlin...Either way, the list of players you would prefer over Dahlin is really, really short.
And, once again, Dahlin himself has said he prefers playing on the right. I love people on some hockey board telling literally one of the best defenseman in the game where he should be playing.</div></div>
I wasn't speaking about Dahlin specifically, I was responding to why handedness actually does matter in many aspects.
Dahlin is good enough to play on his off side, but there are trade-offs to doing so.
Generally speaking, it's a benefit offensively to have your blade opened towards the middle of the ice, but potentially detrimental in the majority of other situations.
You're able to direct more pucks on net and make more cross ice passes, but it does hamper your ability to control the puck along the boards.
You don't have the same control handling pucks on the backhand because of the curve of the blade and you have to cross arms or turn your back in order to play those pucks.
The player's skill or comfort level don't change the physics. They <strong>will</strong> be forced into disadvantageous situations that would not be an issue for a player of proper handedness.
Being able to manage those situations doesn't negate the fact that a defender on his "correct" side would not be entering those situations at a disadvantage.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Thu. at 4:58 a.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Clearly we're still working with a small sample size, but after 46 5v5 mins together:
Byram-Dahlin 5GF 1 GA
I'd say Dahlin is doing just fine playing on the right...</div></div>
There's nothing stopping a defender from being effective on his off side, but it does have key effects on how that defenseman can play.
The movement of the puck around the boards on the forehand, is significantly stronger, faster, and more accurate than on the backhand.
When defending, you have better reach to force the puck to the outside instead of extending across your body.
When making a pass up ice it gives you more options as you are open toward the middle of the ice as well as having the boards.
Those are just a few examples of why defenders of certain handedness are preferred.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 1:50 a.m.
Thread:
Developing depth and a lottery win
Montreal would have to be adding about $15M before they even get close to needing to move cap. I don't see it happening this off-season.
If we did, it would be about freeing roster space, not cap, in which case we can simply waive.
Forum:
NHL
Tue. at 5:04 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>I think it <em>has</em> to be 5 games or less if its a phone hearing doesn't it? At least if the in-person wasn't offered.</div></div>
Ended up with 4 games, and yes, if it's not an in person hearing, the max is 5 games.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 11 at 9:04 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
That should be an in-person hearing for Rempe.
Should be at least two games and I'm not saying it needs to be more, but it's time to send a message and have a discussion with him, show him the process, and give him a wake-up call.
That's his 3rd headshot in about 2 weeks with no supplementary discipline thus far.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 11 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/NJD) - Légaré for Durandeau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>It should be called the playoff eligibility deadline then.</div></div>
I don't necessarily disagree, but you're going to be very disappointed with free agents, turns out they actually cost money.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 11 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/NJD) - Légaré for Durandeau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>No sense in having a "trade deadline" if teams can trade after the deadline :shakehead</div></div>
There is no trade deadline. There's a deadline to submit reserve lists for playoff eligibility.
That's a mouthful though, so we call it a trade deadline.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 11 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread:
The NHL needs to change these things
<strong>LTIR</strong>
Instead of having a LTIR "pool", each instance of a player being on LTIR is its own "slot".
Mark Stone on LTIR can be replaced with <strong>one</strong> player with a cap hit up to $9.5M. Not four players with a combined cap hit of less than $9.5M.
If you replace him with a $1M player, you forego the other $8.5M.
It was never the intention for a team to "gain" cap space with an injury. The system is intended to allow teams to "replace" the missing player.
Obviously you can't account for the difference in the quality of the player lost and his replacement, but that's where your depth is tested and other players get their opportunity to step up and prove themselves.
The cap limit itself should apply to the active roster on any given night (including playoffs).
You could end up in a situation where you acquire Hertl to replace Stone, and then Stone comes back.
In that case you would have to choose who to dress to be compliant if you don't have the cap space available to accommodate both.
<strong>OT Points</strong>
A couple random ideas:
- Award 2 points for regulation win. 1 point for OT/SO win. Encourage teams to do their best to end the game in regulation. No more loser points.
- Extra Time. Periods don't end on a buzzer but on a whistle. Play continues until a natural stoppage. More last second heroics and potential to avoid OT. No more "did the puck cross the line before the buzzer". Teams might get to finish their power play instead of having it interrupted by the intermission, etc.
<strong>Tanking/Draft Order</strong>
Draft odds are "earned" by quarter. The final 22 games carry less weight.
If Chicago is last place in all 4 quarters, they get ~25% odds.
If Chicago and Anaheim alternate last place all season (starting with Chicago), Chicago gets ~20% and Anaheim gets ~18% (because the last quarter gets less weight).
If Columbus is 5th last for the first 3 quarters and Calgary hovered around 10th then sells off all their players at the deadline and drops below 5th, Columbus will still have higher odds than Calgary due to being in a lower standing for longer. (Say Columbus gets 7.5% in 6th, Calgary might only have 5% odds despite being in 5th.)
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 10 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.</div></div>
He may well have had a legitimate reason to flip out.
The ref should be held accountable after the fact if it wasn't justified (that's a separate issue the NHL already struggles with).
In the moment however, like it or not, once a call is finalized you have to take it and allow the game to continue.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 10 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine</div></div>
Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 10 at 1:15 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MGK</b></div><div>They should be tanking for 1 more piece. Who knows, they might win the lottery and land Celebrini.
What is Steve thinking grabbing Holl etc.
Phil the Thrill getting robbed of 1000pts is pure BS.</div></div>
I understand Vancouver maybe not wanting to sign him, but surprised he couldn't find a place to play elsewhere to at least finish the season.
If he limited his options due to contract demands or only wanting to sign with a contender, it would make sense, but if he's just shooting to finish 1000 points or even wants to find a landing spot for next season, it couldn't hurt for him to return to Pittsburgh or Arizona to give them a good story in a lost season. Even Chicago or San Jose could work on a league minimum contract with no term.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 8 at 8:30 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>I really like Edmonton’s moves. I think they already check the blocks for cocaine hockey and toughness, they needed stability. They got stability. Their underbelly is not as soft. I feel the last thing the rest of the league needs is a balanced roster lead by McDavid.
I kinda like Nashville’s approach. Tidy business.
And Calgary getting nhlers (near nhlers) back for rentals 3 times in one deadline is kinda cool.
Carolina giving kuznetsov a try is cool.
Florida getting the best deal in tarasenko is a big boost. Right place at the right time.
Colorado treated this deadline like the offseason and snagged two fairly big pieces they’ll maybe keep for awhile.
I think Pittsburg did well, but I’ve beat that one to death and will stop. I think history will reflect very positively short, medium, and long term.
Biggest loser: my team the blues who didn’t have anything you all wanted :( o well. Can’t fail at making a trade prediction if there’s no trades to predict.
Runner up: Detroit. Same reason as blues except they should have bought imo. You aren’t gonna get Patrick Kane under 3 mil another year. He’s proven he’s worth double that at least or the fact that no matter how good, the years are passing for him. It was worth a stab at a rental I think while you have that power up. Not like the stockpile is low. Didn’t need to go extreme, but I’m surprised they couldn’t find anything worthwhile.</div></div>
Cocaine hockey?
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 8 at 3:40 p.m.
Thread:
Preventing Playoff Cap circumvention.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MGK</b></div><div>Which Vegas can do with their current roster, and probably with another deadline acquisition. Right now they can ice a 20 man roster that takes up 77M-81M.
Last year the lineup of
Barbashev Eichel Marchessault
Howden Stephenson Stone
Smith Karlsson Amadio
Carrier Roy Kolesar
Martinez Pietrangelo
McNabb Theodore
Hague Whitecloud
Hill
Thompson
would have been cap compliant too, I believe.</div></div>
It's not perfect, but it does add at least some restriction. You can't run a 20 man group @ $83M in game 1 then swap a $750k guy for Mark Stone's $9.5M in game 2.
If you have to choose between two $5M guys on any given night, you can increase the quality of your depth/insurance, but not so much your playing roster.
One change I would make for LTIR is that you can only apply the relief from one player toward a direct replacement for that player.
So if Mark Stone goes down and you add a $4M player, you "lose" the other $5.5M.
If you lose a $1M player as well, you don't get to add a $6.5M player, you're limited to a one-for-one swap at $1M or less.
It's no longer a "pool" of discretionary spending where you can keep adding players until that pool is maxed out.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 8 at 2:02 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Doesn't matter. He lost his role as backup. Can't believe we actually got value for him.</div></div>
I would have been happy to end the 3 goalie situation for FC.
3rd is for the retention, but we get a bump in value if Allen ends up being their undisputed starter (1 round bump), so potential for getting "something" for Allen is there.
That potential (however low) is better than FC, so this is a decent use of retention.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 1:32 p.m.
Thread:
(NJD/WPG) - Toffoli for 2025 2nd (WPG), 2024 3rd (WPG)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>High value prospects rarely get moved.</div></div>
High "potential".
Suzuki for Pacioretty. Barron for Lehkonen.
Those players would get more like two 2nd/3rds by the looks of things this year.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
(NJD/WPG) - Toffoli for 2025 2nd (WPG), 2024 3rd (WPG)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LondonNight911</b></div><div>Not a fleece job. This is the market rn. Everyone thinks all these returns are light. Maybe people on here are undervaluing draft capital relative to NHL GMs</div></div>
Last year was the bubble and this year is the crash.
Draft capital values haven't changed, it looks like we are seeing an adjustment to rental costs.
Teams aren't as willing to part with high potential prospects for temporary measures.
Honestly a long overdue change in GM mindset (if that's what it is).
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 8 at 1:09 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Buffalo trading their captain for scraps is hilarious.</div></div>
Man deserves to at least play a playoff game.
More about giving him an opportunity than getting a return.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 12:10 a.m.
Thread:
(PIT/CAR) - Guentzel, Smith for Bunting, Koivunen, Ponomarev, Lucius, 2024 2nd (PHI), 2024 5th (CAR)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Not getting a guaranteed 1st is absolutely terrible considering this alleged bidding war. Unless these prospects are the second coming of McJesus, I don't get it. Not an expert but I don't believe any of those are their best.</div></div>
My first two thoughts:
1. Dubas tried to pressure teams into better offers by putting an early deadline on a deal and it backfired, reducing the competition.
2. Are GMs finally regaining their sanity and pushing back against rental prices?
With so many teams going all in the last couple of seasons and multiple GMs being faced with serious pick/prospect shortages, maybe the analysts are getting through with data about just how effective deadline additions are and what acceptable risk is with respect to cost/benefit.
Bad negotiating, buyer's market, or paradigm shift?
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