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Apr 23, 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NLidstrom</b></div><div>Why do the Flyers do this? They have Hayes and Couturier as their top 6 centres for the next several years, maybe less if Frost develops as hoped. Then it’s those 3 in the middle. They need Konecny on the wing more, plus he’s cost controlled</div></div>
I could see them doing this, not for Konecny, but perhaps another winger. Imagine your 3 top 9 centers are Coots, Hertl, and Hayes?!? That is an insane trio of pivots, and as you know, to contend for a cup you need to be strong down the middle. I would offer maybe JVR, some retained, and a 1st/2nd, maybe another prospect too. SJS won't be competing anytime soon and JVR will be off the books in two years. Or maybe Lindblom, good young, controlled 200 foot winger, wouldn't be a bad add either.
I'm curious, how come people keep putting Frost in a 4th liner role, and not putting our top goal scorer from last year, on a 3rd line? How does Wade Allison not make the team either?
Frost is a high skilled, playmaking forward. It is yet to be seen if he can translate his defensive game to the NHL, but placing him in a 4th line role with 4th line minutes and 4th line talent isn't the way to bring him along. He should, if he doesn't make at least a top 9 role, be in the A to play top line minutes, PP minutes, etc., to cater to his game. Additionally, Scott Laughton is clearly better suited at LW, we've tried him at 3C and it just hasn't worked. I agree if Wade Allison doesn't make the team in a top 9 role also, he should play in the A, but I think he is going to give the Flyers a very tough decision.
Farabee is a top 6 forward, anything less will stunt his growth. There are plenty of combos to make of course but it would just make sense to give our top 6 players top 6 minutes. G, Coots, Hayes, Farabee, TK at the very least. Probably Cam now too as he is our most natural goal scorer outside of Farabee and is 2 years removed from a 40 goal season. Even the last two years, one on a terrible CLB team, he was a 20+ goal scorer, over an 82 game season.
I think you have the first line right, but Farabee definitely is a top 6 guy and should be on the second line at the very least. Also, Allison is more of a scorer and should be put in a situation he will have a bit more ice time and play with more skilled wingers. I would move him up to the 3rd line, and have a 4th line of Lindblom, Nate, and NAK start as the 4th line. I think JVR is the thorn here though since there's no way Oskar is a 4th liner, but as of now, no where else to slot him.
We may actually have the deepest wings in the league, or at least top 5. G, Cam, TK, Farabee, Allison, Lindblom, JVR. Doesn't get deeper than that. Even NAK has promise, and he admittedly had a bad year last year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>Idk much about those prospects,
but being that they were 1st round picks it’s probably in the neighborhood of a workable deal</div></div>
Jay O'Brien was taken 19th overall and was very raw, but you could see the tools. He had a bad year in college at Harvard (2g,3a in 25GP), so he went to the BCHL and tore it up. Obv less competition but it seemed to get his confidence up and with that, his scoring. In his first year in the BCHL he scored 25g and had 66 points in 46 GP, with an additional 5g,5a in 5GP in their playoffs. The next year he returned to Harvard and put up a point per game there (8g,8a in 16 GP). I believe his stock is certainly up and is 21 years old.
Tyson Foerster is a tall, shoot first mentality player, who can light the lamp pretty much from anywhere. He's only 19, and in his first season in the AHL, had 10g and 7a in 24 games, after putting up 80 points in 62 games in the O.
Additionally, TK was a first round pick and is on a great contract and still young, and JVR still produces and only has two years left on his deal (not like it matters since Buffalo has plenty of space).
With the other 2 first round picks, I don't think BUF gets a better return, especially with everything that has gotten out. But I could be wrong of course.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>No troll
Just my opinion
I've watched the Flyers since 84 and while I love Couts my biggest fear is the Flyers will over pay him and over term him. I don't care what anyone else says the Flyers aren't ready to contend. Every year since Giroux was Couts age the flyers were Stanley cup contenders. 6 years later we aren't any closer. I get it its a gamble but why not rebuild now. In fact, I really liked what Hextall was doing and the vision he had. Granted he might've not traded Couts but he was building for the future. Too say we are in win now mode is foolish</div></div>
Listen, everything you've said has been thought out and i appreciate the fandom coming out of you. Truly do. But players like G and coots are necessary to win a cup. No matter how you slice it, they are integral parts. It's neither of their faults that the FO has not surrounded them with better talent. Every single year was the same, it was status quo, and it was not fair. Does Sid win cups without Geno, Letang, Fluery, Kunitz, etc etc. Does Chiacgo win without Toews, Keith, Seabrook, et al? No, they don't. It's not a one man show, TB doesn't win with only Point and Kuch. They would give it a good go, but it's the Gourde's, the Palat's, the Hedman's, etc etc.
You don't get rid of a guy who is possibly the best complete player in the league. There is a premium on players like Sean Couturier. And if weren't for mono, he would've probably been the number one pick that year. He immediately, as a rookie, shut down one of the most talented players (Malkin) in NHL history.....in his first year. He is not the problem, you don't sell him for pennies on the dollar, you build around him.
Take it for what you will
Honestly, I don't think that I have ever seen a write up so incorrect and off base before in my life. Not only is Couturier in the same league as Bergeron, he is basically the best comparable to Bergeron over the last few years. Hockey writers, announcers, and even NHL exec's have said as much. I don't know what you're watching but you couldn't be more wrong. Coots is one of the most underrated players in the league, and actually behind the Bruins big 3, has one of the best contracts in the league in terms of value. He is a perennial Selke finalist and just won one (which is voted on by NHL people, so you know how he's viewed around the league by people in the know), and since he was elevated into a scoring role, is basically a point per game player.
Unless you're trolling, I have no clue how you can believe what you wrote.