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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Chicago had no problem signing UFA's last off season. There are always players in free agency looking for a payday. Hawks won't be trading away draft capital for short term veteran guys. And Kane likely doesn't waive for Chicago anyway.</div></div>

With how the coach has treated him im sure he’d waive anywhere. At this point he’s threatened with being sat

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 2:25 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StDetroitBlueWings</b></div><div>Still not enough anyway. Saying this is an equivalent of two 2nds and a 1st two years from now? No thank you</div></div>

I doubt they’re getting more than that for Buch unretained. Maybe to the right team they can get a good young player and a second with retention

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 2:06 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowhawk18</b></div><div>Hawks wouldn’t be interested in either of those proposals… and yes I know Ceci’s proposal says “anywhere”, I am answering from a Chicago viewpoint, they will not give up anything for him.</div></div>

I feel like they’d be interested. Probably can’t attract many FA’s currently and Ceci can plug holes in the roster at the cost of nothing

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 2:06 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HolyJumpin81</b></div><div>Blues dont want borgault</div></div>

replace it with a second rounder or any other prospect worth about the same doesn’t matter

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 1:37 p.m.

Thread: If marner would waive

As an Oilers fan the value is there but you’d need to take back more salary and roster spots. Probably just add Ceci, Ryan, and a couple low picks to the Oilers side and it makes sense

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 9:59 a.m.

Thread: Toffoli Marino

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>1st+2nd+Ceci for Toffoli+5th+6th. Sure

Marino for 2nd+Connor Brown+Petrov. No</div></div>

Hasn’t Marino been meh, not worth his deal? Feel like that’s worth it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1 at 4:13 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Ha! I'd love to hear the rationale for claiming it's a buyers market? How do you figure that exactly?</div></div>

Just what insiders have been saying, Dreger Friedge etc. Considering asking cost is 2 first rounders as well… this is more than that

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 9:03 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>noted</b></div><div>The Blues have zero desire to bring Kane into their room - try again

Again - this is the type of package it would take for the Blues to move Buch this year -

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/latest-news/potential-oilers-package-for-pavel-buchnevich</div></div>

That is quite literally an equivalent package WITH retention

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 9:02 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>Pretty easy pass for the caps here.</div></div>

Think they get more? I don't see them getting a first

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 8:18 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>No way Kane waives to go to the states, and we should not trade him anyway. He’s that type of guy that you would want come playoff time. Trading him now would make no sense. Now correct me Blues fans if I am wrong, but I would imagine they would not want Bourgault, instead they would want Broberg. Now, I know they have Lindstein whom they just drafted, but don’t really have any young NHL defenders with possible top 4 potential in the NHL currently. Give Broberg a guy like Parayko for example to play with, and I think he improves significantly!</div></div>

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 8:16 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>Would imagine Kane denies the trade. Can't imagine the Blues would like the trade anyways.</div></div>

He's been unhappy with playing time for a bit, but that would complicate it. If the blues want to trade him (why????) I doubt they get an offer better than this. Definitely could get a higher pick or prospect, but not both AND a viable top 6 guy

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 8:14 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cody_tugak</b></div><div>I was just thinking Kane, Bourgs and the 2024 1st to the Blues for Buchy</div></div>

Poor blues are giving away an elite forward but I'd guess this is the package come deadline day

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22 at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Deadline targets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Carrier's a better puck mover and a bit of a better skater but there's a very minor difference in their ability to defend. Would I include Ceci in a deal for Carrier? Yes. My original point stands however as I still think Wanner is too much to pay for such a minor discrepancy in who is/isn't effective.

I'm only moving Akey and/or Wanner for a veritable upgrade with term. Someone like Andersson.</div></div>

Dude there’s a massive difference in their ability to defense lol

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18 at 5:31 p.m.

Thread: Deadline targets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>AZ easy pass, B+ W prospect (AZ is deepest at W), maybe the worst W in the NHL (yeah rental but), and a 3rd in 3years for vet middle C under contract next year.</div></div>

Bourgault is C/W, so that point is moot. It’s essentially a 2nd and a 3rd here, I’d say that’s worth it for a 3rd liner at 1 mil

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18 at 5:30 p.m.

Thread: Deadline targets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>The Minnesota and Arizona trades aren't necessary and I think Wanner is too steep a price to pay for how slight an upgrade Carrier is over Ceci.

The price to upgrade over Pickard isn't worth how little Edmonton actually gets via upgrade (Fleury is a downgrade with too many miles and almost 3x the cap hit). I don't understand what everyone enjoyed about Bjugstad last year as I recall his time in Orange and Blue to be wholly lacklustre (he was actually a boat anchor in the playoffs). I'm not paying assets to bring him back and would rather pay the price on Dowd.</div></div>

Carrier is a massive, massive upgrade over Ceci. I don’t know what you’ve seen from Ceci to suggest otherwise

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16 at 8:23 p.m.

Thread: Penguins fans let me know

There’s no way you give up McLeod for a rental

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: If there is even a tiny chance theyd trade him

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>I agree. If it's true that Calgary is listening to offers on Anderssen, the oilers should absolutely be willing to outbid everyone else.

I'm thinking a good package would be a 1st, Bourgault, Beau Akey, Ceci, and a conditional 2nd rounder that can turn into a 1st if the Oilers make it to the cup finals</div></div>

2 firsts would be a bit much for me for Andersson. He’s good but not a star. The first package does seem fair

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: If there is even a tiny chance theyd trade him

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Absolutely no chance Andersson is available and if he were, think about what you would want for Draisaitl for value and then on top of that consider Andersson’s Cap Hit is only $4.5mil/yr for another 2 years…</div></div>

Draisaitl value LMFAOOOO take a back seat on this one buddy. Think more of what Ekholm fetched. First, good prospect, roster player, and goodies

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: WHAT is the best deal for Tanev and Hanifin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devsfan25</b></div><div>Through 2.5 years in the NHL, Mercer has yet to miss a game. As a rookie, he put up 42 points on a bottom 10 team in the NHL. He followed that up with a 27 goal and 57 point campaign last year. After going pointless in his first 10 games this year, Mercer has 23 points in the last 37 games. He can play center or wing. He plays PP2 and is a staple on the PK. He’s a great skater and has excellent work ethic. Can’t find me many guys with all those attributes at 22 years old</div></div>

you overrate him purely due to his age, would be very surprised if he ever tops that 57 pt season

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:44 p.m.

Thread: WHAT is the best deal for Tanev and Hanifin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devsfan25</b></div><div>HAHAHAHAHA. Wait… are you being serious? If the Devils moved Casey for Hanifin, the deal would likely be Casey + 2024 3rd for Hanifin. If you wanted Mercer, YOU would be the one adding. The only guy Mercer might get moved for is Saros and that’s still unlikely. And you’ve added a 1st on top of this. You’re WAY OFF. Devils offer for Hanifin would likely be

Kevin Bahl, Graeme Clarke, 2024 1st for Hanifin</div></div>

Devils fans don't overrate Mercer challenge (impossible)

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:42 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Feel like that offer gets beaten fairly easily. It's fairly comparable to Lindholm trade (especially if the 2nd is only for retention since Lindholm's trade didn't have any), and Konecny is at the moment the superior player of the two, and he has another year left on his contract to boot.

If you want that sort of player with hefty retention to boot, you're gotta give something bit more substantial than this imo.</div></div>

I just feel like Torts not loving him will effect is value. They'd probably have an offer like this lined up from a couple contenders, or a middle of the pack team could offer a much better prospect but not much else

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:41 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>You mean 2 cap dumps, 2 whatever prospects that every team has multiple of, and a 1st and a 2nd. Nothing all that enticing for the season that TK is having.</div></div>

TK isn't having a career year, and it's well known Torts would like to move on from him. That will affect his value.

That being said, those are not whatever prospects and cap dumps. Kulak and Janmark are worth their cap hits. Bourgault and Petrov have had a disappointing year in bako but they were highly rated prospects before that

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:36 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Yeah Kucherov has a good chance of winning the Art Ross and Hart trophies this season! 🙄</div></div>

wut

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 7:34 p.m.