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Armchair-GM
30 minutes ago
Thread:
Fehervary Eller Edmondson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>I thought you guys were after Chychrun</div></div>
Only if the price comes down significantly.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
40 minutes ago
Thread:
Fehervary Eller Edmondson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>Let me know when you're ready to share more substance</div></div>
The Kings have any number of trade targets they can pursue that would be superior to Edmundson that would cost less than this.
Olli Maatta from Detroit is a good example. The Kings are already familiar with him, as he played well for them last year. The reported asking price for him is a 2nd round pick.
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Armchair-GM
46 minutes ago
Thread:
Fehervary Eller Edmondson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>Great. So now what's your fantastic alternative?</div></div>
Don't trade with Montreal. That's my alternative.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
47 minutes ago
Thread:
Did my best to replicate the Duchene 3 way trade
The Kings won't move Quick. I also think they'll look to move their 2024 1st instead of their 2023. They'd be willing to upgrade the 2024 3rd to a 2023 2nd.
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Armchair-GM
59 minutes ago
Thread:
Monahan Reunion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I'd argue Durzi might be worth more, Markstrom is 33 (with three more seasons remaining) and having his worst season since 2014-15.</div></div>
Hence the "arguably."
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Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
LA what do you think of this deal in the offseason
The Kings will not trade their 2023 1st round pick.
They need a LHD more than they need a goaltender.
I don't think the Kings would do this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Call me crazy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>You gotta include a 1st this year if you want a shot at pretty much any Dman. And any team will ask for some form of asset to take on Peterson</div></div>
I'd rather stand pat at defense than give up a 1st for someone not named Jakob Chychrun. I wouldn't even give up the 2023 1st for Chychrun.
A 2nd round pick for Olli Maatta is the most realistic looking trade these days.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
menage a trois
Ottawa says no to the first trade.
LA says no to the second trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pompadour_de_Armstrong</b></div><div>Yeah, I wasn't arguing with anyone. Just adding my two cents. I'd personally be happy with something like that. You could add Petersen, Walker, etc to make salary work if necessary. Arizona could deal from their pile of expiring contracts to help even things out or have a slew of draft capital to help close a deal for the specific pieces they want. That's why I think they can eventually find a deal that makes both GM's happy.</div></div>
Well the point of my post was that this is how much it would cost, but I concluded that it was too much and the Kings shouldn't do it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Monahan Reunion
So Durzi for Markstrom is arguably a good 1-for-1 trade, so why is LA throwing in 3 high draft picks? Dube and Rooney aren't worth anything to the Kings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Fehervary Eller Edmondson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>He's physical and he blocks shots (5th in the league)
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask?q=nhl+blocked+shot+leaders+2022-2023</div></div>
Fantastic. That's worth a 4th round pick to me at 50% retention.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pompadour_de_Armstrong</b></div><div>Personal opinion (not that it means much) is that if you can get Vilardi, Grans, and a first In a package for Chychrun and one of the UFA forwards as above, I'd take it and run. Take Walker, Wagner, Grundstrom or whoever back to make salary work. I'm in the minority among Coyote fans, as I'd be happy with something around Kaliyev or Kupari and a pick for Vejmelka. He's hurting the tank. Spence is interesting, but understandably Kings fans love him. Durzi is worth more to the Kings than Coyotes, imo. Who knows how the clubs feel, though. LA remains my favourite to land him because there are so many possible pieces for them to work with.</div></div>
I think you pretty much just said the exact same thing that I did.
1st + Vilardi + Grans = 2 Tier A + 1 Tier C assets for Chychrun
2nd + Kupari = 2 Tier B assets (which is a bit more than I said he was worth worth, but if Arizona takes back Petersen as a cap dump then we're good)
I also agree that Durzi is worth more on the open trade market than he would be to the Coyotes.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Pulling a fast one
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bannedforlife</b></div><div>Kings need LDs and Wings need RDs. Natural trade partners. The chances of something happening are significantly higher than you think.</div></div>
The only way LA considers taking on Chiarot is if Detroit retains at least $1.75M. At that point, I'd do Chiarot + 2nd for Durzi. Detroit can keep Zadina.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Fehervary Eller Edmondson
I have no interest in Edmundson any longer. He has been absolutely terrible since returning from injury. He's -21 on the season, by far the worst on the Habs, and he has played in less games than their other defensemen.
I wouldn't 1-for-1 trade him for Sean Walker, even if Montreal retains 50%.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>Kings aren't trading 3 roster players and shaking up the team that much. GMs don't like doing that in season, especially this deep into the season. AZ wants future pieces and LA has plenty of those. This deal makes no sense for LA.</div></div>
There's only 2 roster players included here, but other than that I agree completely.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMB</b></div><div>If I am another GM I just wait for them to hit the waiver wire and not give up draft picks</div></div>
That works if you're at the bottom of the league standings. Not so much if you're a playoff team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
ah common
Edmundson has been pretty terrible since returning from injury (-21!!!). I don't think the Kings are interested any longer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMB</b></div><div>My question to you is what are the Kings going to do with all these prospects that will be making the varsity?</div></div>
Trade them to fill other gaps or for assets to cover for injuries or declining players. If all else fails, trade them for draft picks.
Just because the Kings have a full stable of prospects doesn't mean they should result to poor asset management or significantly overpaying in trades.
If I really like a car that's valued at $10k, but the owner is demanding $20k for it, I'm not going to buy it, even if I can technically afford it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
My prediction for award winners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmins_Is_Eating_Tims</b></div><div>damm, Marner could be a contender though. I think the only reason leafs don't allow 20 goals a game is because of Marner, Reilly and Samsonov but that is it</div></div>
Awards voting is all statistics-based these days, and one of the major categories for the Selke is faceoffs, with an emphasis on defensive zone faceoffs. Marner has taken exactly 3 faceoffs this season and has lost all 3 of them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMB</b></div><div>I like your thinking. If you want something sometimes you have to overpay. First question, do you as GM want these two AZ players. My answer yes. Then if that is the case your trade is reasonable although I think you can replace Vilardi with Turcotte.</div></div>
Chychrun yes. Vejmelka meh.
The price would have to come down significantly before I'd be willing to trade for either player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
My prediction for award winners
The Selke hasn't gone to a winger in 20 years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
deadline
Matt Roy is not available.
The Kings won't give up their 1st round pick in two consecutive drafts.
The last thing the Kings need is another winger. If they're paying a premium price in a trade, it's going to be for a defenseman. They have absolutely zero need for Bertuzzi.
Nedeljkovic could have been had off waivers two weeks ago if the Kings really wanted him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>I'd value Durzi and Spence both being right shot playing the right side defensemen higher on the value chart then Kaliyev any day of the week. Kali has a great shot but there are plenty of young left handers out there with a great shot. But I definitely agree with the fact that if the Kings were to try and target both guys from AZ that it would cost them way too much.</div></div>
This isn't pure trade value, but rather what each player would be worth to Arizona. Durzi is 24 and older than what they're looking for in their rebuild time frame. Spence has great potential, but that's not realized at the NHL level yet, and Arizona would value a sure thing over a guy who has had massive success at lower levels, but hasn't been given a real shot in the NHL yet.
Kaliyev has proven to be a strong two-way player that is a scoring threat in the NHL. His 5v5 offensive production hasn't been fantastic, but he's deadly on the power play. His defensive play is above average as well. Given that he's only 21, I think Arizona would value him higher than Durzi.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Minimum Chychrun and Vejmelka Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldBoisClubSandwich</b></div><div>lol half of that offer is to unload Peterson alone</div></div>
Yea, no.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
2023 TDL
Following my post above, here's the absolute least I think the Kings could give up to get the players you're proposing:
LA gets:
Chychrun
Vejmelka
Arizona gets:
Vilardi
Kupari
Madden
Grans
2024 1st
2023 2nd
Petersen
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