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Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Isles Realistic Retool

LA would take that and run, but why would the Islanders want anything to do with that?

Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago

Thread: Turning the page

LA is not trading their future franchise defenseman for a 34-year old with one year remaining on his contract.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago

Thread: Time to innovate

The Kings aren't trading their 1st round pick for a pile of scraps.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:26 p.m.

Thread: If the Kings bought out PLD experiment

That's quite the overpayment to Philadelphia.

Brandt Clarke is not getting traded.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 7:02 p.m.

Thread: Are any of these players available

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>your thoughts on what LAK would want for PLD?</div></div>

I'm not sure there's a good way to answer that question. He's not worth what the Kings would need to get in order to consider trading him. Blake has essentially gone all-in on PLD being at least a top quality 2C, and if that doesn't come to fruition, then he's likely going to lose his job.

So if Blake is still the GM (if he gets fired this summer, then all bets are off), I think he needs to get a return comparable to what he paid to consider moving him. A 2nd round pick, a solid middle-six winger on a reasonable contract, and a young quality top-six player.

I again emphasize that he's not worth that return, but that's what it would take.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:13 p.m.

Thread: Kaiden Guhle

Quinton Byfield is not being traded under any reasonable circumstances.

If Chicago calls up and offers Bedard, then ok. Short of that, Byfield isn't going anywhere.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:09 p.m.

Thread: Are any of these players available

Dubois isn't "not available," but the Kings aren't going to retain salary, take back bad money, or pay to move him, so it's very unlikely that he gets traded.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 2:06 p.m.

Thread: yr after add lindstrom kapanen reinbacher

Remove the $1.5M retention from PLD and put it on Josh Anderson, and the Kings might consider it.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:48 p.m.

Thread: What you think

Quinton Byfield is not available.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:12 p.m.

Thread: Is this better

Also, what makes you think you're going to get Matt Roy to sign for 2 years @ $3.5M? For that term, double that AAV.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:11 p.m.

Thread: Is this better

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>shady5811</b></div><div>I would generally agree, but if they trade for Swayman, he's the goalie of the future, and Portillo is expendable. I would agree about Clarke, but the Kings need to move one of him or Spence, and Swayman wouldn't be moved for just anything. I don't know that he's as off limits as he was a year ago.</div></div>

Brandt Clarke is even more off limits now than he was a year ago. Spence is available, but as you say, he's not as much of a prize.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:10 p.m.

Thread: Im trying here

The Kings want nothing to do with Kuemper's contract. Increase it to 50% retention and still no.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:07 p.m.

Thread: Preds

I wouldn't trade for Saros. He's a good value goaltender for a year, but he's going to want a huge raise. There's not a single goaltender in the NHL that I think is worth more than $6M per season, and he'll make significantly more than that starting in 2025-26.

If Saros comes with a 2+ year extension with a cap hit at or under $6M (with or without retention), then I'd pay a lot more than this for him. Otherwise, I don't want him on the Kings at all.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:26 p.m.

Thread: Big Dreams

Kings don't want draft picks. Those won't be helpful for 3+ years, and the Kings need help now.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:30 p.m.

Thread: Fantastic Off-season

If the Kings lose to Edmonton again, then I think everyone not named Byfield and Clarke are on the table. So I don't agree with others when they say Moore won't be traded.

I do agree that the Kings aren't going to trade Moore for Chychrun. The Kings lose the value trade in that deal. That would have been fair when Chychrun had 3 years remaining on his value contract. A 30g scorer that is great defensively and locked in for 4 more years at a team-friendly $4.2M carries a lot more value than one season of affordable Chychrun.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: MarnerOUT

Take out Kempe and all the draft picks and still no.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 12:33 p.m.

Thread: These are the players the Kings should keep Everything else is for sale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>40 goals from Kempe and back to back 70 pt season from fiala are somehow not enough?</div></div>

The perpetual losses vs the Oilers in the playoffs would suggest not.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 12:32 p.m.

Thread: These are the players the Kings should keep Everything else is for sale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>The Blues have zero use for a goalie.</div></div>

I think you missed that it was a reference to the same price paid by the Kings to acquire him.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:47 a.m.

Thread: These are the players the Kings should keep Everything else is for sale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goose1227</b></div><div>Kempe??? Really??? I mean if you’re offering, I’ll take him.</div></div>

This isn't a thrift store. These guys won't be cheap.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:46 a.m.

Thread: These are the players the Kings should keep Everything else is for sale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Okay, so what does Gavrikov cost?</div></div>

A 1st and 3rd round pick. Kings will throw in a backup goaltender.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: Small Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>There are better ways to state that Smith is not a fit for LAK without alluding that he has negative value, when he in fact does not. There is no scenario where PIT would send a pick with Smith to move him, because he does not have negative value. Players with negative value require a pick with them. There wouldn’t be a realistic scenario where LAK would trade for Smith and there wouldn’t be a realistic scenario where PIT would pay to move Smith. Pretty simple. There is no point in even mentioning that Smith would have a pick going with him for the sake of drama. It perpetuates crap narratives about player’s value that aren’t true.</div></div>

Sure.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:12 p.m.

Thread: Small Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Alluding that PIT would need to pay to move him in any capacity is saying that he has negative value. You know that would never happen. LAK would simply decline the trade and both teams would move forward.</div></div>

You can put all the words in my mouth that you want, but I never implied that. Had I said something like "Add a 1st round pick and the Kings would consider it," then you could make that argument.

My point was, and is, that no amount of compensation could entice the Kings to take Smith's contract because their problem is cap space. Adding Smith would cost them any chance at re-signing Matt Roy and that's worth more than any draft pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:03 p.m.

Thread: Small Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Reilly Smith does not have negative value. I certainly agree that he is not a fit for LAK and their situation, but even mentioning that he will cost a pick to move is what is wrong with this website. Simply stating that LAK are not the right team for him would suffice, and wouldn’t perpetuate the already too frequent spewing of dramatic takes that have no truth to them on this website.</div></div>

I didn't say that he was negative value. I said that the Kings can't afford his contract, even if you offered to pay them to take him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 1:50 p.m.

Thread: Small Changes

The Kings do not want, nor can they afford Reilly Smith, even at 50% retention. Change the draft pick going in the other direction and still no.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 10:15 p.m.

Thread: Scratch this year and next

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MediocrityAccetableInToronto</b></div><div>compare Marner and Byfield's years thanks</div></div>

Compare Marner and Byfield's number of years until unrestricted free agency, thanks.

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