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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:12 pm
Thread: Toffoli to SJ in Realistic Trade as Kings Rebuild and Sharks Push for a Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I'm not arguing that it should happen as a matter of course. I think that this proposed trade is sufficiently out of the ordinary that it might be the exception to the rule.

There are several Kings on the roster I think Blake would and should trade within the division for a first-round pick.

Didn't we trade Linden Vey to Vancouver for Roland McKeown? Fat lot of good <strong>that</strong> did us.</div></div>

Technically the Kings traded Linden Vey for a draft pick which would eventually turn into McKeown. Vey struggled to make the lineup and eventually ended up in the KHL, so I would call that an insignificant trade. Additionally, the trade occurred in 2014, the first year of NHL realignment, and the first season that the Kings and Canucks were in the same division. Previously Vancouver was in the Northwest division.

I wouldn't completely disqualify a trade from happening between division rivals, but the return value would need to be significantly higher coming from a divisional rival than from a team from another division. If San Jose wants to give a 1st round pick for Toffoli and the best deals coming from elsewhere only include a 2nd, then yes I think the Kings would make the trade within the division. However, it's in San Jose's best interest to not accelerate the Kings' rebuild, so they wouldn't be inclined to do that.

For the return proposed in this ACGM, I wouldn't trade Toffoli within the division.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 14 at 3:43
Thread: Toffoli to SJ in Realistic Trade as Kings Rebuild and Sharks Push for a Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>It's almost 2020 man, not 2013. No trades between SJS and VGK, sure, but with Rob Blake friends with DW, Jumbo, and Patty, as well as a diminished rivalry, in addition to circumstances of LAK going for a rebiuld and SJS wanting to win it all for the two 40yr olds and best Sharks in franchise history, it's a realistic trade. Also, the trade swap of Neal and Lucic between Edmonton and Calgary this year proves that business &gt; rivalry.</div></div>

There's already rumblings in the Kings fan base that Blake is too close to the San Jose organization. If a trade were to happen between the two that helped San Jose compete for a Cup, the fans would turn on Blake in an instant. Even Lombardi, who had similar ties to SJ, wouldn't trade Jones directly to the Sharks. Lombardi even said that he wouldn't have done the trade if he knew Jones was gonna get flipped back to the Pacific.

If the market for Toffoli implodes and there are zero other offers for him, or if the Sharks are willing to significantly overpay for Toffoli's services (i.e. a 1st round pick), then maybe a trade happens. Otherwise a trade between the two teams will not happen.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 14 at 1:32
Thread: Kovy-Seabs
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