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tkecanuck341

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Kings fan since 1986. Season ticket holder since 2011.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Lol. We’ll see. I doubt it though. I would be willing to bet a lot of money Kings dont make or even compete for a play-off spot next season. I would bet a lot of money they arnt .500

The 90’s kings were ok. They had Gretzky/Luc R and played in a very poor division. West Coast hockey was horrible still in the 90s. They were ok. Not a good franchise.

Good prospects on paper now and highly ranked prospect system, but questionable team building IMO. I just don’t see it coming together.</div></div>

The early 90s Kings played in a division with the Nieuwendyk/Fleury/MacInnis led Calgary Flames, and the All-Star heavy Vancouver Canucks (Bure, Ronning, Courtnall, Linden, Nedved). The only "bad" team in the division was the San Jose Sharks since they were an expansion team and didn't have the favorable expansion rules that Vegas and Seattle have.

You are literally the only person to think that the Kings have "questionable team building." Blake and Yannetti have done an exceptional job building this team. The Kings goaltending and defensive development pipeline is second to none, and they have more offensive talent in the pipeline than they know what to do with. Beginning next season, they'll start packaging some of those quality prospects together to bring in guys in their prime to fill gaps in the roster, most notably at 1LD and top-six wing.

If you can't see it, you should look into getting some glasses.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Kings franchise is poor at best. Haven’t made it out of the 1st round since u guys won the Cup?? And b4 that?? It took 10 years to make the play-offs and out of the 1st round. U had 3 good years in franchise history!!</div></div>

You obviously don't know your hockey history. Just because they didn't win a Cup before 2012 doesn't mean there weren't great years before then. The Kings teams of the early 1990s with Wayne Gretzky, Jari Kurri, Tomas Sandstrom, etc. were very good. They were one illegal stick away from winning the Cup in 1993.

The LAPD (Allison, Palffy, Deadmarsh) era was also quite good. They eliminated the stacked Detroit Red Wings in the 1st round and took the dominant and eventual Cup champion Colorado Avalanche (the Ray Bourque year) to game 7. They were arguably one game away from a Cup that year as well. Unfortunately career ending injuries to Allison and Deadmarsh cut that era short.

LA will perhaps miss the playoffs one more year, although they'll compete for a playoff spot next season. They'll be a playoff team beginning in 2022-23 and a serious Cup contender by 2024-25. There's absolutely no chance they'll be picking in the top 10 five years out.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-vegas-golden-knights-over-the-cap-and-need-to-move-salary/2020/12/11/


“The Golden Knights didn’t get much of return for Paul Stastny and Nate Schmidt, and if they moved any of Pacioretty, Marchessault or Fleury, the return may not be much. The Golden Knights might even have to add a draft pick to the deal to get someone to take on the salary”.</div></div>

Again, this was before the season started and it specifically says that they were just gauging the market to see what was out there and what a return would look like.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>Sources confirmed that the Vegas Golden Knights have talked to teams about Max Pacioretty, Jonathan Marchessault and Marc-Andre Fleury. <strong>It doesn’t mean that they will be traded,</strong> but they are seeing what type of market there is for them.

The Golden Knights are just under $1 million over the salary cap.

A league source said they were “aggressively shopping” Pacioretty and Marchessault, with a team source saying they have just explored the idea.</div>

Notice the "aggressively shopping" doesn't extend to MAF. Show me an article dated after January 13, 2021 that says that Vegas was shopping MAF.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>That wasn’t just last season buddy. Can u read and use google?? It was all the way up to the draft. To the beginning of the year. Read the articles if u care. It’s not rumor, it’s proof.


https://www.pensburgh.com/2021/2/13/22279987/latest-marc-andre-fleury-penguins-rumors-vegas-trade-pittsburgh-maf

2021..???</div></div>

From the article you linked...

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>And Fleury is 5-1-0 this season with a 1.68 GAA and a .929 save%. Though his performance slumped last season, he’s playing well enough right now that would make a team not want to entertain moving him, unless it made sense for them.

There could lie the other big issue. <strong>Even if the Pens had interest in Fleury, how do they fit his $7.0 million cap hit and make a deal worth Vegas’ while?</strong>

Right now, it doesn’t seem likely. Which is quite the turn from a few months ago, when MAF’s status looked untenable and blocked by Lehner. Lehner, while a very good goalie, has also never really been a “number one workhorse” type of goalie. At a hefty 6’4 and 240 pounds, he doesn’t really fit the profile of a netminder who gets stronger by playing 60+ games a season.</div>

You seem to think that this rumor article suggests that Vegas even once entertained the idea of moving Fleury. It does not.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>He was available all year ans they were willing to retain contract.


https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/10/vegas-offered-marc-andre-fleury-to.html

“Vegas offered Fluery to entire NHL”.

Lol.

Trade Fluery and a 2nd round pick as a sweetener for nothing in return. No one would do it..lol. Too much salary.</div></div>

Vegas was trying to trade MAF last season because they didn't want to have to trade Nate Schmidt. However, it was after a down season during which his father died and he put up subpar numbers. There were questions surrounding whether he could return to form. Since the day Schmidt was traded, there has been 0 interest from Vegas in trading Fleury.

Now that Fleury has shown that he is still one of the best goaltenders in the league, Vegas has absolutely no desire to trade him. They're not in the cap hell they were in last season, as they only have a couple inconsequential contracts expiring this summer.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Because they were willing to give up assets and retain salary trying to trade Fluery or J.Marchassault at the beginning and during the season in order to get cap room??

You think MA-Fluery is why Vegas is 1st place?? Amd reason his GAA and SV% is low?? That’s why.

No, it’s their team, team defense, scheme and most everyone is aware of that.

And C.DeSmith GAA and SV % is better, but Pens defense is good is so is their system. It’s why it doesn’t matter if it’s T.Jarry or Matt Murray. Both are All-STAR goalies in the Pens defensive system. Same with the Vegas goalie.

What did T.Lehner do last year, in a full healthy year?? In that Vegas team Defense and system??</div></div>

Even if true (which it's not), that doesn't mean that they're going to give away a guy with value like Fleury for nothing. Again, if DeSmith is so much better than Fleury, why would the Pens make this trade at all?

If Vegas were to make MAF available, they'd have several offers significantly better than this one after the season he just had.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: Pens offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Lol..ok. A very good contract for a top 6 winger. Kings are full of Center prospects and need Wings. I think they would do it in a second.

Do the kings even have a current 20 goal scorer on a wing?? Besides this year, which he was injured, Zucker scored 20 plus in 5 out of the last 6 years. And is 29 and is only signed till he is 31. Where do u get a bad contract??</div></div>

If Zucker was that good, the Penguins would just keep him. Carter has essentially matched his production in only 13 games, and the Kings couldn't trade Carter away quick enough because he couldn't produce in their system. Zucker isn't a 20-goal guy on the Kings.

Yes, LA has plenty of talent coming up to the NHL in the next season or two. Kaliyev and ****emo are both 20g players (if not 30g+ guys). Turcotte will likely also be moved to the wing and can be expected to put up 20g/50p every year. All those guys will be producing on entry-level, six figure deals.

Kings might take Zucker if you want an overage prospect like Luff or Rymsha in return. They're not giving up a draft pick and a quality guy like Thomas for an overpaid winger that will be a UFA by the time they're ready to compete.