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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.

Thread: Next Year Lineup With No Outside Additions

Leonard and Stenberg? I'll stop watching the Wings if that happens.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: Draft day and off season

I love the Vancouver trade. It's fair and makes sense. Not sure if Vancouver wants to pursue this, or if they can stomach the last year of Myers.

The Winnipeg and Colorado trades are bad for everyone. Picks after 20 are about as good as picksin the 40s. No need to move up.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: Harder to play against

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MorHitzSeider</b></div><div>2nd and a 3rd for Trouba.</div></div>

No, I think the value is right. Retention should be at least 2 million though.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: Top 5 next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Davidson</b></div><div>It’s Bedard’s team now, also Kyle Beach’s trauma is not so cheap as to be used to Jab fans of the team. We did nothing wrong, and everyone involved with that situation has either been fired or moved on.

Understand that and be better.</div></div>

Until the ownership changes, the organization doesn't deserve fans. If this happened in my Red Wings organization, I'd probably be a a Hawks, Leafs, or Jackets fan.

I will not "be better." Reminding people of what happened IS being better. The league swept this under the rug so fast it is sick. Don't forget, the Hawks knew of Aldrich's despicable acts, and wrote him a letter of recommendation.

The Hawks should have been punished far worse. If th LA Clippers owner can be forced to sell the team for saying racist things, the Hawks ownership should have been forced to sell for supporting a rapist.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DougieGilmour</b></div><div>Just like Habs fans talking about things that happened over 30 years ago, you’ll be old men talking about the same things to us lowly leafs fans. It is funny that you have such an obsession to talk trash to a fan base that’s experienced no winning for over half a century.</div></div>

I only trash the fan base because the fan base is so insufferable. Palhal on here is about the only Leafs fan who will be reasonable and realistic. The rest are a bunch of unreasonable whiny butts.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.

Thread: Is It Realistic

Flyers fans will say no, but this is probably realistic for TK. Maybe swap Sebrango and McIsaac, as I don't think Sebrango has an NHL career in front of him, but McIsaac is probably 2nd pair in a couple years.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:51 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DougieGilmour</b></div><div>And yet here you are bragging about your 2nd round wins. I’m sure Yzerman is all about 2nd round wins! Remember when your fans use to actually expect to win? Now you’re battling it out with us lowly leafs about 2nd round wins. Welcome back to the 70s and 80s bud. More mediocre dead wings years to come.</div></div>

And yet, I can still cling to several cup wins, playoff victories, and even some near victories that I can actually remember. What do Leafs fans have? Memories of Darcy Tucker fighting and wasting a great career of Mats Sundin?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:48 a.m.

Thread: Build for Bedard

How awesome would it be for Bedard, and all future picks, and players for that matter, to refuse to work for Chicago due to toxic ownership? The Wirtz family knew about the rape if the players, coaches, and management knew about it. Ownership did nothing. Absolutely toxic.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:41 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DougieGilmour</b></div><div>And the wings at this point are all losers. Keep rebuilding for the rest of time.</div></div>

Even if Detroit misses the playoffs for the next decade, they will still have more second round playoff wins than the Leafs for over two decades.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DougieGilmour</b></div><div>And the wings at this point are all losers. Keep rebuilding for the rest of time.</div></div>

AND Detroit still has more 2nd round wins in the last decade than the Leafs.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Not what I was implying</div></div>

Can't argue with the truth, eh?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Even without Svechnikov and Martinook Carolina declines. Tavares as near negative value without retention</div></div>

While I won't go this far, I think Tavares is worth a late 1st with moderate retention... Detroit would give 2 2nds. With 3 million retained.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:26 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DougieGilmour</b></div><div>So we trade our captain for a Russian kid that’s underachieved so far, a role player, a nobody RFA and some scrap picks? That’s a major no.</div></div>

Correction: Loser Captain.
He is a professional loser.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:25 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>They haven't won a cup since 67, Soni don't think Tavares is the factor in the not winning a cup a soon</div></div>

You are right. It is the sweater that causes the team to lose. Not the players. The players can't help but choke while wearing the Leaf.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.

Thread: Tavares gone

Fun fact. Detroit has missed the playoffs 7 straight years. Detroit also has more 2nd round playoff wins than the Leafs in the last decade.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2023 at 8:43 a.m.

Thread: Leafs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Make it the #43 pick instead and it's a deal.</div></div>

You missed the part where Toronto adds another 1st.

Detroit isn't touching the Murray contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.

Thread: Benson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Yeah 100%, he was drafted as a Mitch marner type with a better shot. I just meant I rather be patient with him then with 11M man</div></div>

I wanted Stutzle so bad. I wanted Holtz (better shot than Raymond and a Center). I got Raymond. I ate my words after his rookie year. I expected a sophomore regression, which there was. If Raymond doesn't pot 25 goals and set up 40, I'm calling it a disappointment. Raymond needs to put up 65-70 points this next season. My problem isn't that Raymond slumped, it is how he slumped. He stopped doing the things that made him good as a rookie, just like Zadina did in year 2. Am I worried? Not yet. Just something to keep an eye on.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:31 p.m.

Thread: Benson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Wings pass, you can keep 11M non existent playoff man and we'll keep our 850k comparable player and this year's top 10 pick</div></div>

To be fair, we expect Raymond to be comparable. Not there yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.

Thread: Reload not Rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsFan212</b></div><div>Stay with me on planet earth here</div></div>

Sadly, in this case, I just may very well be being reasonable.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.

Thread: No Rebuild Just Yet

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MorHitzSeider</b></div><div>He's good when he wants to be.</div></div>

Which is the exact type of player nobody wants. We don't need another Mantha.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.

Thread: Reload not Rebuild

Chicago asks for Pastrnak and Lindholm too, 50% retained on both.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:06 p.m.

Thread: Reload not Rebuild

Detroit asks why? Nope, not at all.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.

Thread: Benson

These are terrible.

Detroit sends Toronto's GM a package via UPS. It is Yzerman's feces after Taco Bell.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 7:13 p.m.

Thread: Fixing Hextalls Mess

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cdids8771</b></div><div>This is a stimulating exchange… let’s talk again in July when he re-signs in Boston for 5.5m, cool? Then you can find a new slant as to why he didn’t want to leave detroit instead of accepting that Detroit is in the bottom 5 cities to live in with an NHL team.</div></div>

Actually Detroit is one of the more desired cities to raise a family. Low cost of living, plenty of amenities, lots of nature, abundant lakes, close proximity to other cities. Detroit as a hockey organization takes care of it's players even after retirement.

The some science nerd did an interesting study on climate and best places to live. Guess where the best place to live in the world?
https://www.michiganradio.org/show/stateside/2021-11-29/the-best-place-to-live-in-2050-michigan-says-globalization-expert

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.

Thread: Idk But Something Has to Change

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Samsoc22</b></div><div>Oh look, an underpay by a Leafs fan for TK. In other words the sky is blue.</div></div>

To be fair, all the other deals are not in Toronto's favor. Must not like the Flyers much maybe? Or maybe TK really isn't worth more?

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