Jun 9, 2017
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This summer, Holland purposefully brought in proven bottom six NHL forwards and older European players, all on one-year contracts. He also signed a goaltender he can afford and then gave the organization's top prospects a legitimate shot to compete for an NHL roster spot. He has a couple albatross contracts that expire at the end of this season, and also all of those one-year deals. It looks to me as though he is trying to build a more competitive, if still grossly imbalanced, line-up this season. The objective appears to be getting through this year with enough improvement to keep fans engaged, while allowing prospects to develop in the system.
Nurse is the one player Edmonton has who will command a significant salary increase next season; Kassian might get a pay increase too, if Holland doesn't move him before the trade deadline. Holland also has to figure out how to protect players like Bear, Jones, and Lagesson, all of whom will not be waiver exempt next season. Beyond that, I think he considers the options to be varied. Moving Lucic for Neal did far more than give Edmonton a far better offensive player, it also gave Holland the opportunity to open up a significant amount of cap space, should he choose to trade, or buy-out Neal. That's a huge improvement for the Oilers. Of course, neither a trade, nor a buy-out seem likely at this point.
All this to say, I believe that Holland has set himself up to have reasonable cap space and organizational depth to pursue a more significant player than Perlini. Taylor Hall seems to get a lot of attention right now, but consider that Mike Hoffman and Chris Kreider may also be available at less breathtaking terms. Of course Holland also has assets, in the form of Jesse Puljujarvi and one of Caleb Jones and William Lagesson, that he might be able to leverage into more forward scoring depth. Finally, there are less highly vaunted players than Hall, Hoffman, and Keider who may be available, without the need to snipe another team's RFAs.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Edmonton has defensemen coming out their ears next summer, why are you spending a high pick to sign a 3rd pairing guy?
Re-signing Gagner, Manning and Granlund is very unrealistic - and probably some of the other bottom-6 players too. Do you think expecting Puljujarvi to come back is realistic?</div></div>
Not only does Edmonton have a plethora of defensive depth within the organization, some of the most prized assets will no longer be waiver exempt. Personally, I wonder if Holland and Tippett view the Lagesson/Jones competition as a priority consideration prior to making any substantive moves. Regardless of whether, or not, his team is a buyer, or seller, at the trade deadline, Holland has some pretty interesting assets available. If a buyer, Puljujarvi and Jones (or Lagesson), and possibly Day are all possibilities. If a seller, Kassian may actually be his most attractive asset; and he can be combined with any of the other assets to sweeten the pot and increase the return.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Wow that's surprising. I was expecting Bouchard to get AHL time like they said because they dont want to rush him. So, I thought the last D spot would be between Lagesson, Jones and Bear</div></div>
The competition for a roster spot has always been on the right side, and the #7 spot. Tippett prefers to play a RHD on the right side, so Jones was at a competitive disadvantage from the start. On top of that, Lagesson has had a much stronger camp.
We'll see what happens with Persson. He's shown some good promise, but also struggled at times. Bouchard has been the most noticeable of the prospects, but Bear has had a strong camp too. Benning was horrible last night, and if he can't pick it up again he may lose-out to one of the younger guys. Lagesson has looked very good too, we'll see what happens when Russell returns from injury. Manning is still in Edmonton......... Logan Day is too, but only because the Oilers can't send him to Bakersfield due to injury.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>I think the same goes for Jones: if the organization truly believes that he has NHL talent, they won't glue him to the pressbox or rotate him for x number of games with Russell.
And right now, we're arguing ifs and buts, but I'm confident saying that Haas will probably be utilized more as the #4C alongside guys like Archibald, Gagner, Granlund, and Nygard: hints from Stauffer and Gregor are pointing towards having a defensively-responsible third line to take pressure off of RNH, which would open up a softer minutes wheel-n-deal fourth line.</div></div>
Reading can be difficult skill to master, sometimes the obvious is not so obvious. In this case, it may help to review the title of this post again. Doing so might help you understand the context in which the proposed roster is posted. You should note that it's the opening night roster.
The projection is Benson and Jones stick for at least the first few games of the season, then head back to Bakersfield. I am suggesting they won't dress on opening night. Further, Chiasson starts the season with Sheahan and Khaira because he doesn't have the speed to play on a pressure line; whereas Granlund and Archibald both do. Which of the two lines is 3rd and which is 4th might depend on opponent, and circumstances from game-to-game. I don't think it matters much on opening night. I suspect Chiasson and Gagner will fill similar roles throughout the season, playing up and down the line-up and getting time on the power play. I see Chiasson getting the call for the first game.
In response to the original post, I don’t think the suggestion is insane, but I do think it’s simply not realistic.
To the following post:
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>If Winnipeg is gonna move that player, Edmonton would have to pay more than that, Winnipeg would need/want an RNH point producer but with 3 - 5 years of term + the 1st and need A+ D prospects coming back.</div></div>
Laine has demonstrated elite goal-scoring ability, but his game appears to be frighteningly one-dimensional at this point.
Nugent-Hopkins is a strong 2C, in his prime with a sound 200-foot game, a demonstrated record of 60-65 points/season, ability to be effective on both special teams, ability to play any position in the top-six, seemingly likely to pot 20-25 goals/season for the next 2-3 seasons (or more), under contract at $6M for the next 2 seasons, and likely to be paid less than Laine on his next contract.
Setting aside the fact that Edmonton does not have enough cap space to sign Laine for fair value, even with RNH off the books, and Winnipeg doesn’t have enough cap space to take-on additional salary in a trade with Edmonton, the suggestion that Laine = RNH + 1st round draft pick + grade “A+” defensive prospect is out of touch with reality.
If Cheveldayoff acquires RNH, he instantly improves his team’s ability to challenge for a cup. Even though RNH won’t replace all of Laine’s goal scoring potential, he brings a lot of dimensions that compliment the talent in Winnipeg. If Holland acquires Laine, he can, and will need to, break-up McDavid and Draisaitl. That doesn’t drastically improve his team.