Catton is cracked and physicality is overrated

How many are good bets to be top pairing 6’ 6” defensemen? Top 5, decent chance, but probably not as good a bet as Edvinsson right now.

Top 10 no way.

9OA grabbed Cory Schneider who was one of the top goalies in the league at the time. Jersey isn’t moving it to Detroit unless Detroit can fill a gap the team has. NJ has no problem taking the best of what’s left if they can’t do that. They’ll end up with a better player than they’d have gotten in a trade. Nashville, Boston, and Minnesota among others would be above you in the trade queue because they can provide a goalie

Husso got injured in December, tried coming back in February, reinjured himself in his first game back, went to GR for conditioning and reinjured himself in warmups lol. Probably not the goalie you want to bet on.

As for Cossa and Augustine, no way either is added to a trade to move up five spots. They’re a different level of value from Veleno, Buium, etc.

Berggren, I could see, with the way we’ve continuously jerked him around.

Yeah physicality don’t mean ****, that’s why Dallas and Florida and New York are getting destroyed in these playoffs. 🤣

This is where I am as well. Give me a natural center that is smaller than getting a larger "center-ish" guy that probably ends up on wing. We have wings in the systems, centers are where we are limited. And hey, if we find a big 3C, Catton can always go to wing.

Could see a deal where we trade #15, Veleno and a 3rd for #10. Had this discussion with a couple Jersey fans awhile back.

Which ones were drafted in the first round lol.

That was a different draft! The difference in talent for this draft between 10 - 15 is minuscule. You simply can't compare one draft to another in that manor. The talent level and team needs vary too much to make a comparison like that valid.

I mentioned prospects goalies as guys we would not ask for...we have young goalies.

Berggren is probably not as much of a need.

So that leaves Buium, Veleno types...

Good bet is a stretch he's 21 huge and barely played in the NHL so far he's got monstrous potential but for those reasons I'm taking Silayev Demidov or Levshunov over him if you disagree though I get it you've seen more of him but I'm less biased so we will see and like I said Detroit shouldn't trade him for 10th

Sounds like most realistic of any of the scenarios here.

(If Fitzy liked Veleno as 3C option...and there is not some unexpected faller in draft)

Stamkos

He could be a potential 3C option for Jersey and it would make a bit of room for Kasper to take that spot if he earns it.

#10 for Edvinsson

#10 for #15, Veleno, mid-pick

#10 for #47, Rasmussen

Are all types of deals NJD probably considers. I cannot speak for Detroit.

Edvinsson is obviously a no go, you know that.

Second deal might be worth it if they feel Kasper is ready.

Be tough to lose Ras but could be worth it if Catton is available. Saving #15 to draft MBN would be best case scenario if we lose Ras. MBN could be NHL ready in 2025 to replace him I think.

Stamkos is 6'1" just so you know. But I agree with your post of BPA. Some teams will value size though.

Not expecting Edvinsson to be going anywhere….but couldn’t think of anyone else fitting our needs, timeline and able to return that pick. I don’t think Walman gets it done. Wings aren’t moving any core young forwards. ASP maybe fits value wise…but neither the skillset nor the position are needs for NJD. Who am I forgetting?

He's barely played in the NHL because he was expected to be out until December and Yzerman oversigned defense because of it lol. He likely would've been in the NHL all year otherwise.

Not to mention Detroit is notorious for overcooking guys. Larkin and Raymond the only ones who have really bucked the trend in the last 15-20 years. Seider probably would've if not for COVID.

Walman+15 for 10+small add would be something I think I’d do

Wallinder and Buium but they don't fit the timeline of ready now. Walman could be had I think. I don't believe he's a long term solution. We would need to find a replacement and that likely means overpaying in free agency. Walman and a second would be the offer but I don't think it's the best one. There is potential for a deal to be had I think. I don't hate Ras and #47. We would really need to push for someone like Joshua, Trenin or Carrier to replace him but it's doable. Chiarot would fit the mold of physical top 4 D but his contract might not be ideal and likely still need something added to it. Chiarot with some retention plus #47.

I think Walman + #15 is far too much for us. I'm not going to say Walman is super valuable but he has been playing top pair for the last two seasons and he has a very reasonable cap hit. I think he does get exposed a bit on the top pair as I feel he would be better suited for second pairing minutes, but he would be a pretty good second pair guy that can fill in top pair when needed.

Stamkos is 6'1 like Hischier is 175 the NHL lies about players size

I would like them to target Iginla, Catton or Eiserman at 10.

6' 1"...



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