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Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: its just for fun but feel like Edm could use all those pieces

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Draisaitl will return a top line young Wing, top 4 RD prospect or NHL player on an ELC and at the very least least 2 1sts IMO and even that could be considered a weak offer! From Montreal I think the Offer starts with Slaff and Reinbacher plus the 24 1st.</div></div>

I can’t see any team offering up a younger cheaper team controlled top line winger because at that point what’s even the point of making the trade. Maybe if they were to find a team in a similar situation like the Tkachuk-huberdeau trade but a lot of things need to work out for that to happen. Makes more sense to me for Edmonton to focus on shoring up their depth/goaltending to round out into a legit contender.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Development Year

I mostly agree but I wouldn’t want to hold back our D, Hutson and Mailloux especially if they’re ready. If they’re not sure send to Laval but I think they deserve a shot to force their way onto the team.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:45 p.m.

Thread: Big draft trade

Philly is 100% stupid enough to do this and we should jump at the chance. I think if they get big boy Lindstrom at 5 though that they might be willing to grab Catton at 12. That’s my wish.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:41 p.m.

Thread: No trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Suzuki_Cup</b></div><div>Slaf-Dach-Newhook were very very solid during the 4 periods they played together. Could be nice to see again, although Slaf and Zuke have great chemistry.
Roy in the top6 is also something I hope to see.
Would like to see Xhekaj-Mailloux together at some point. They were great in Laval.
Armia-Newhook-Gallagher were also solid together at the end of the year. I hope we can bring back Toffoli to play in the top6 and put Newhook back in the middle6.
Beck with Dvo is interesting. They could both take faceoffs on their strong side.

Edit :
Cole-Nick-Toffoli
Slaf-Dach-Roy
Armia-Newhook-Gallagher
Beck-Dvorak-Evans/Anderson (same ice time for line 3 and 4)

Guhle-Matheson
Hutson-Savard
Xhekaj-Mailloux/Barron
Struble</div></div>

I’d be down for Toffoli returning but Guhle and Matheson both on the same pairing would be a mistake because there’s no way they put Matheson on the right. I just want them to leave Guhle alone on the left. Preferably they trade Matheson but that’ll never happen so :/

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:39 p.m.

Thread: No trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruceBanner</b></div><div>I feel like Montreal is in a defensive dilemma...too many guys that can play , should play but also too you g to trade Savard or Matheson.

It will be exciting to have Dach back. Why keep Dvorak?</div></div>

This is kind of just me assuming they won’t make any moves. I’d trade at least Dvorak, Matheson and Armia before the season starts if it were me.

Forum: Montreal CanadiensSun. at 10:08 a.m.

Thread: Is Kapanen better than Beck

Kapanen has had a significantly improved second half of the season but there were some doubts earlier. At the end of the day I think if we’re legit contenders they should be our 3/4 Cs and they can battle it out for the roles.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:55 p.m.

Thread: My best case scenario at the draft

This is the kind of draft that sets up a team to be Stanley cup contenders for a decade….so I’m sure the Habs won’t do it. But they absolutely should.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:46 p.m.

Thread: My best case scenario at the draft

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Even if that were true, I don't need to watch him to know Minnesota isn't giving you that pick for Matheson. I don't really care what your rose colored perspective says about him or his value. Minnesota is not the team.</div></div>

What lol Matheson is 100% worth that pick and Minnesota is the most obvious fit in the entire league for a Matheson trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:04 a.m.

Thread: If We Draft Levshunov 5OA Trade Up for Sennecke 12OA

Honestly we have greater odds of drafting Demidov and I’m not too knowledgeable about this particular trade but I’d give up those assets with my eyes closed for something without even drafting another D.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMay 6 at 9:03 p.m.

Thread: Trevor Zegras part 123

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ItsDuckSeason</b></div><div>As an Anaheim fan, this would be so funny
:tearsofjoy</div></div>

To be completely honest I’d be willing to give up A LOT for him (i think he’s exactly what we need) , but I also think it’s crazy to not believe he’s being offered up with all the history.😂

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMay 6 at 8:43 p.m.

Thread: Trevor Zegras part 123

I honestly just can’t wait until zegras is traded and all the Anaheim fans are left shocked after spending months saying “he’s not on the trading block”

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5 at 9:29 p.m.

Thread: Id love life

If the guy we want drops I happily include Matheson or Guhle instead. We don’t need both. I prefer to give up Matheson but if the Habs are obsessed with keeping him might as well trade Guhle now for a premium player.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5 at 8:36 p.m.

Thread: Habs management dream scenario

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBadBurke</b></div><div>Look around the league, the habs don't want/should not want to be good asap... they are rebuilding the right way and playing the long game. Starting in 2026-27 once most of the powerhouses of the east are on the decline, they will be ready to start competing at the highest level for at least a decade</div></div>

Yeah and to just add on they’ve *never* said that they want to contend immediately just that they want to *improve*. I think they’re well aware that their window opens when Gallagher and Anderson’s deals expire. Which is 3 more years.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5 at 11:02 a.m.

Thread: Leafs fans what would you want for Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steve_321</b></div><div>As a Habs fan. Can emphatically say not interested.</div></div>

Lol yes I know certain Habs fans don’t want elite talent, we get it. It’s braindead but we get it.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5 at 11:00 a.m.

Thread: Unholy Alliance Not Looking So Bad Now

This is 100% the best move either team could make. I’d only do this particular deal once Demidov is confirmed to be gone though, but I think it makes a ton of sense. Bet anything the leafs would love London Knight Sam Dickinson. I’d add maybe a little more if we could get their late first in return, so we’d just swap our firsts+. Then we could use the leafs and Winnipeg picks plus whatever else it takes (Matheson/Savard etc) to move into top 15 and get the guy we want anyways. I’d also be willing to make the Marner trade based around Savard and/or Matheson if they’d prefer.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4 at 6:32 p.m.

Thread: Habs management dream scenario

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I don't think it would be stupid. I think if they can lay hands on a player who is "as good" as Iginla will be in 3-4 years starting next season and all they need to do is add a LHD or another late 1st, they would be crazy to not do it.

The Habs want to be good ASAP and not in 3-4 years when lots of players are going to be on new very expensive deals.</div></div>

The stupid part isn’t getting those players but building an entire top 6 on the exact same age group whose contracts will always be up at (nearly) the same time for very similar cap hits. You need impactful elc players to be serious about contending especially if you don’t have that superstar. We need to stagger the contracts. I think it’s even risky to get one more 23 year old but won’t be surprised if they do it. Definitely don’t think they’ll go for two though.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4 at 5:47 p.m.

Thread: Habs management dream scenario

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I hear you. I just think their "dream scenario" is to add two significant pieces to the forward core starting next season who are:

1) Between the ages of 20-25
2) Established top 6 players or players with top 6 upside
3) Complimentary to the group we've already assembled

and if they need to trade one, two, or even 3 first round picks and a few leftie defensemen to get it done, they will.</div></div>

I don’t think they’re that stupid. I definitely think they want one of those type of guys but definitely believe they want the other future top 6 piece to be from our draft pick this year.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4 at 5:32 p.m.

Thread: Habs management dream scenario

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>You realize that the Dach & Newhook contracts will be over and Beck out of his ELC by the time Iginla or Sennecke sniff the NHL.</div></div>

You realize that you can’t build an armchair GM for more than 2 years out right? 🤔

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 3 at 2:10 a.m.

Thread: move from the 5 to the 2

I think it’s unnecessary. It’s probably more likely they would accept a solid prospect or two instead of more picks.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1 at 8:32 p.m.

Thread: Another Rossi Idea

If the Habs are committed to Mike Matheson, I do this. But I’d also insist we get Minnesota’s 1st round pick out of it as well. More than happy to package the Winnipeg 1st and other assets (if required) to get it done.

So the base for me would be: Guhle + 25 for Rossi + 13

I think it makes perfect sense. Minnesota gets their partner for Faber. Habs bet on offense, and could probably draft another D with the 13th pick to eventually replace Matheson.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 10:38 p.m.

Thread: Trading Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I don’t think the problem with him is that he isn’t supported by the organisation. He just can’t handle pressure, and going to a place wheresome fans sent death threats to a guy their team drafted and a guy that said bad things about them after beating them in the cup final. Marner won’t be able to perform under that kind of pressure</div></div>

Yeah I kind of just mean that we’re a much more balanced team so it’s not all on one or 2 guys. So I think he’d actually have an easier time performing. If this were a few years ago I’d say this would go exactly like drouin’s experience but I think we’re very well rounded now making it easier for top talent to perform.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 9:36 p.m.

Thread: Trading Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>If there were to be a contract in place, it would make it fair value wise, but even then, not sure Marner is a guy that Hughes sees as a good fit in MTL</div></div>

I can see them betting on elite upside and being confident that the culture in their organization would support Marner. The Habs are also much more of a “team” and don’t put everything on 1 or 2 guys which I think would be very helpful.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 9:33 p.m.

Thread: Trading Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs_22_14_20</b></div><div>Not after signing Caufield under Suzuki AAV and probably Slafkovsky under Suzuki AAV. Then give 12M+ too Mitch Marner</div></div>

They’ve been pretty open about this cap max not being the case if it were a UFA. And Marner would essentially be a UFA contract much different than exiting an elc or an rfa contract. So I don’t think that would be a concern.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 5:45 p.m.

Thread: How much would it cost

Keep our extra firsts and give them Matheson. No reason to give up more futures.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 5:39 p.m.

Thread: Marner is perfect for MTL

Agreed. People are blinded by the leafs disaster if they’re claiming otherwise. St. Louis would revitalize him. He’d benefit so much by having Suzuki be the leader and getting to play with slaf. The leafs room just feels so toxic. Slaf and Caufield I think would do wonders for him personality wise.

I wouldn’t do it for futures though. It makes no sense for either team. Would definitely do a Matheson centred deal which would be smart for both teams. I think we have exactly what they need and I’d be willing to add (and Marner is 100% exactly what we need).

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