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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

May 13 at 8:40 a.m.
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Sam Bennett's a dirtbag; break a leg PAL...


Matt Rempe will be happy to do such a duty
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May 13 at 9:01 a.m.
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I don't think either will get anything, Zadorov's crosscheck is fine and it really looks like Soucy was aiming for the upper chest, but Zadorov pushed Mcdavid over, leading to him getting hit in the face


While I agree with you... As for Soucy:

"It was a non-hockey play at the end of the game"

"Have to keep your emotions in check."
May 13 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
While I agree with you... As for Soucy:

"It was a non-hockey play at the end of the game"

"Have to keep your emotions in check."


I think "Have to keep your emotions in check" applies more to McDavid than Soucy on that play
May 13 at 9:43 a.m.
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I think "Have to keep your emotions in check" applies more to McDavid than Soucy on that play


You know what I'm referring to though, right?

Both have to keep their emotions in check... McDavid more-so because EDM hurts more without him than Vancouver does without Soucy
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May 13 at 10:54 a.m.
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If Soucy gets fined or suspended, Zadorov owes him a steak dinner
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May 13 at 11:00 a.m.
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World championships is a nice distraction when your team isn’t relevant at this time of year. I really want Poland to actually get good at hockey.


It’s always been weird to me that hockey isn’t bigger in Poland considering how similar it is to Slovakia, Czech Republic, and even Russia to an extent
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May 13 at 11:23 a.m.
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Sam Bennett's a dirtbag; break a leg PAL...


Ironic when the guy he hit is an even bigger dirtbag lol
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May 13 at 12:10 p.m.
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Ironic when the guy he hit is an even bigger dirtbag lol


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May 13 at 12:14 p.m.
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Not going to lie, I'm curious to see what it will be like in New Jersey if Keefe gets hired. He's a solid coach, but he leans a lot on low-maintainance 2 way guy. Really likes his defensive specialists. Has a harder time incorporating younger guys into the lineup and struggles hard with less than average skaters. There aren't a lot of David Kampfs or Alex Kerfoots on NJs roster.

I've got a feeling that Haula and Palat are in for good seasons if Keefe gets in. Holtz will not get the playing time he deserves, Clarke will be a scratch, Meier will suffer, and Siegenthaler - Marino is going to get a lot of ice time.

Really curious how his structure will apply to a team that can afford to have a deeper forward group. I think he is going to love that blue line
May 13 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I don't think either will get anything, Zadorov's crosscheck is fine and it really looks like Soucy was aiming for the upper chest, but Zadorov pushed Mcdavid over, leading to him getting hit in the face


https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1790040350041522677?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Seems Soucy is gonna get a phone hearing

So 1-4 games. Since these be playoff games probs 1-2

Zadorov got fined which I suspected


As the league did say they were gonna crack down on crosschecks
May 13 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1790040350041522677?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Seems Soucy is gonna get a phone hearing

So 1-4 games. Since these be playoff games probs 1-2

Zadorov got fined which I suspected


As the league did say they were gonna crack down on crosschecks


Zadorov better treat Soucy to a nice dinner since it's his fault Soucy might get a suspension, also a joke Zadorov got anything for the crosscheck
May 13 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Zadorov better treat Soucy to a nice dinner since it's his fault Soucy might get a suspension, also a joke Zadorov got anything for the crosscheck


To me both should have got 1 game each for tag teaming as a cheap cross check shot to the back that then leads to the other guy getting McDavid in the face with another cross check wasnt good

Like both Soucy and McDavid slashed each other that should have been it but Zadorov has to just come in and escalate it lul

No hearing needed just you and you 1 game each bye. McDavid 5k fine and were good
May 13 at 2:55 p.m.
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To me both should have got 1 game each for tag teaming as a cheap cross check shot to the back that then leads to the other guy getting McDavid in the face with another cross check wasnt good

Like both Soucy and McDavid slashed each other that should have been it but Zadorov has to just come in and escalate it lul

No hearing needed just you and you 1 game each bye. McDavid 5k fine and were good


McDavid should get something but he won't since it's McDavid, Zadorov's cross check was also worse than Soucy's but of course since Soucy accidentally got McDavid's face due to Zadorov's cross-check, he'll get discipline
May 13 at 4:28 p.m.
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To me both should have got 1 game each for tag teaming as a cheap cross check shot to the back that then leads to the other guy getting McDavid in the face with another cross check wasnt good

Like both Soucy and McDavid slashed each other that should have been it but Zadorov has to just come in and escalate it lul

No hearing needed just you and you 1 game each bye. McDavid 5k fine and were good


What Hyman did was worse than Soucy and Zadorov. He intentionally cross checked Zadorov in the face, giving Zadorov a cut that required stitches. None of them deserve suspensions, but if anyone does it’s Hyman
May 13 at 4:50 p.m.
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What Hyman did was worse than Soucy and Zadorov. He intentionally cross checked Zadorov in the face, giving Zadorov a cut that required stitches. None of them deserve suspensions, but if anyone does it’s Hyman


Soucy deserved a suspension sorry. After he slashed McDavid he then decided to crosscheck and while Zadorov's crosscheck which was also bad due to going for a guy not paying attention in the back lead to it being higher both players should know better

League has said its cracking down on this stuff and when you both guys decided lets double team McDavid and start a brawl. Not a good look and both needed to be told thats a no no. After Soucy slashed McDavid back that should have been it but Zadorov escalated it. This then results in the scrum which leads to ABC

But in the end if Zadorov didnt do what he did none of that would have happened.
May 13 at 4:55 p.m.
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McDavid should get something but he won't since it's McDavid, Zadorov's cross check was also worse than Soucy's but of course since Soucy accidentally got McDavid's face due to Zadorov's cross-check, he'll get discipline


Did say a 5k fine should have happened to McDavid but yea Zadorov should have known better to do what he did as now Soucy gonna pay the price.

Coward crosscheck to the back of an unsuspecting guy really was not warranted as both Soucy and McDavid slashed eachother
May 13 at 5:02 p.m.
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Soucy deserved a suspension sorry. After he slashed McDavid he then decided to crosscheck and while Zadorov's crosscheck which was also bad due to going for a guy not paying attention in the back lead to it being higher both players should know better

League has said its cracking down on this stuff and when you both guys decided lets double team McDavid and start a brawl. Not a good look and both needed to be told thats a no no. After Soucy slashed McDavid back that should have been it but Zadorov escalated it. This then results in the scrum which leads to ABC

But in the end if Zadorov didnt do what he did none of that would have happened.


So you must agree Hyman deserves a suspension also then right? He intentionally cross checks Zadorov in the face, which is worse than what Soucy did
May 13 at 5:05 p.m.
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So you must agree Hyman deserves a suspension also then right? He intentionally cross checks Zadorov in the face, which is worse than what Soucy did

The whole argument of this vs that is so watered down.

He said she said - he started so I did it

It’s an argument that won’t ever end.

The league needs to make rules less subjective but that’s impossible. We all agree at the end of the day if your player gets cross checked in the face it’s not worth keeping in the game.

The league picked one play to penalize nothing we can do.
May 13 at 5:07 p.m.
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The whole argument of this vs that is so watered down.

He said she said - he started so I did it

It’s an argument that won’t ever end.

The league needs to make rules less subjective but that’s impossible. We all agree at the end of the day if your player gets cross checked in the face it’s not worth keeping in the game.

The league picked one play to penalize nothing we can do.


I’d be okay with Soucy getting 1 game if the NHL was consistent, but they aren’t. From this series alone there’s the Ryan spear on Hoglander, Kane slew foot on Hughes, and Hyman cross check to Zadorov’s face. I’d say Joshua’s hit on Stastney in round 1 was worse than the Soucy play. Not to mention Bennett sucker punching Marchand that went unpunished as well
May 13 at 5:09 p.m.
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I’d be okay with Soucy getting 1 game if the NHL was consistent, but they aren’t. From this series alone there’s the Ryan spear on Hoglander, Kane slew foot on Hughes, and Hyman cross check to Zadorov’s face. I’d say Joshua’s hit on Stastney in round 1 was worse than the Soucy play. Not to mention Bennett sucker punching Marchand that went unpunished as well


That’s nearly every single regular season game, every single playoff game.

You see a braindead call by both refs and the situation room every week.
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May 13 at 5:14 p.m.
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McDavid punishment should match Soucy's.
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May 13 at 5:18 p.m.
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McDavid punishment should match Soucy's.


McDavid would have to kill someone on the ice to face punishment, the NHL would never suspend him during playoffs unless they had to
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May 13 at 5:26 p.m.
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McDavid would have to kill someone on the ice to face punishment, the NHL would never suspend him during playoffs unless they had to


A two-handed baseball swing of a slash .... should be at least a fine.
May 13 at 5:33 p.m.
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Will end this with the Van vs. EDM end scrum

Hyman, Soucy, and Zadorov each should have got 1 game

What each did was not a hockey play and if you want to crack down on this nonsense you throw the book at them

McDavid and Soucy then get 5k fines for slashing

We dont need the broad street bullies like tactics returning
May 13 at 5:35 p.m.
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A two-handed baseball swing of a slash .... should be at least a fine.


Agreed thats the one thing im not happy with

To me Hyman, Zadorov, and Soucy should have got 1 game each for crosschecking at the end of the game

McDavid and Soucy then get fines for slashing
 
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