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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs1 hour ago
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I think he can... Yes, he gets injured concerningly high... But if you look at those plays that got him hurt, the team stopped playing defence for the last 15 seconds + unfortunate play...

I think the goalie coach will work with Woll to not get hurt in those scenarios</div></div>

But your looking at this year

Look at him since 2019-2020

AHL

32 games
15 games
15 games
21 games

Guy even down there has not shown he can stay healthy enough.

And teams now know what they have to do to get him hurt make him stretch out. Not much a goalie coach can do when your injury prone. Its the person's body that needs to adjust but its not easy. Look at Scott were just lucky its not groin stuff yet
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs12 hours ago
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>One difference the Avs and Knights have won the Cup and have other longer playoff runs. Leafs just one playoff round win, and worse few quality picks in the 24, 25, 26 drafts and what have the Leafs got to show for it.....McCabe for one more. season. Leafs prospects pool in ranked in the lower 20% . I just can't figure how anyone can say, the Leafs trades/draft have helped the team in the past six years.</div></div>

For all competitive teams thats what you got to do.

Look at VGK this year went all in and lost R1 but won a cup the previous year doing almost the same. TBL goes all in almost yearly besides this one making crazy trades to try and get more cups.

These are the gambles you pull but as a competitive team you need to do em. Yes you dont need to go all in but you need to give the boyz a chance. Dubas did it last year and it got them to R2 but then the big boyz decided not to show up till they were down 3-0 and we know what happened

And lets say Leafs didnt make trade what good would these prospects have done more so than the players traded for?

ROR, Muzzin, etc were all welcomed additions but the problem wasnt with them it was the big 4 not doing much when needed besides Willy.

In the end were not a wait and see team were a go for it now and win as we got Matthews in his prime rn

We still have Cowen, Minten, Grebyokin, Knies, Robertson, etc were fine

Should not be focusing on the prospects (except Cowen) should be focusing on the now
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs16 hours ago
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Didn't the Leaf trade all those picks and others previously for the Cup runs for the past six years?? All those picks wasted for one playoff round victory.

<strong>I disagree that isn't a big deal. Leafs have only two players on their ELCs...cheap cap. If you can get players on the ELCs playing above the their cap, it's a great way to manage the cap. But no the Leafs every summer sign some over the hill aging UFAs to minimum contracts or so who have positive effect on the team.</strong></div></div>


Thats the norm for competitive teams. They dont just load up on ELC's in their lineup besides pressbox extras after their AHL affiliate get eliminated

Look at all the teams currently in playoffs

CAR: Jarvis, Drury
NYR: Rempe, Brodzinski, Cuylle, Schneider

FLA: Lundell
BOS: Beecher, Brazeau, Lohrei


EDM: Holloway
Van: Aman

Dal: Johnston, Lundqvist, Harley, Stankoven
Avs: N/A


TOR has rn: Knies and Robertson up with guys like Cowen, Minten, Grebyokin, Tververg, Niemela knocking on the doorstep thats comparable to whose in the playoffs still rn.

Look what the Avs have been doing or VGK trading away these guys in an attempt to win now. They keep some but most of their picks, prospects, etc are gone to win Lord Stanley
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs19 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Holl got 3.4 mill because he was a RHD... That has nothing to do with the LHD Zadorov...

Again... Bert had 10 points in 7 playoff games: 5.5 on a 1 year deal

Domi had 13 points in 20 playoff games: 3 mill on a 1 year deal

Mikkola (Big and strong and 2 points in 7 playoff games): 2.5 mill

Teams aren't as jumpy as you think</div></div>

Mikkola is not a good comparable to Zadorov. If anything Mikkola is more of a comparable to Holl at the time. Plus remember FLA tax takes 1-1.5m off the next deal

Look what Chiarot got from DET or Gudas got from ANA

Caps going up and teams want these big physical guys who can PK, move the puck here and there, and add something to the playoffs

He's getting 5m from someone especially after these playoffs.

As for the Bert and Domi theres context. Bertuzzi came here as the big long term deal was not out there from BOS or anyone else and for a while he almost made us regret it. Domi yes took less term and money to come but thats a whole different matter

Van will look to keep Lindholm and will probs extend him and let Zadorov go as he's gonna cost them to much. As Lindholm really dont have a big reason for a prove it. If he wants it why not just stay and do it in Van lul
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs20 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Kind of like a Bertuzzi type deal...

I don't see the Canucks affording him and Hronek...

<strong>And Z's unlikely to get 5.</strong>.. Teams don't put enough stock in playoffs to pay 1.75x... Kind of like what happened with Bert

The games would go:
Woll: 41
Stolarz: 30
Hildeby: 11

And the Marner deal would be picks and prospects based in this scenario</div></div>

Why would Lindholm need to take a Bertuzzi type deal. With the playoffs hes having Van will probs pay him 7.5m with term

Holl got 3.4m and was dog**** in the playoffs

Zadorov is having himself a time these playoffs and GM's just love these giant physical Dman we saw it last year all were getting overpaid

He's getting 5m

And do we really see Woll getting to 41 games

Kid just cant stay healthy and has not reached 30 games since 2019-2020

Would not have a lot of confidence in that trio as if Woll goes down especially come playoffs how much faith we got in the other two. TOR needs to go invest in someone who can take the load
Forum: NHL21 hours ago
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>The whole argument of this vs that is so watered down.

He said she said - he started so I did it

It’s an argument that won’t ever end.

The league needs to make rules less subjective but that’s impossible. We all agree at the end of the day if your player gets cross checked in the face it’s not worth keeping in the game.

The league picked one play to penalize nothing we can do.</div></div>

To me should make it to where crosscheck final min of a game in a scrum is the same as instigating a fight

Auto 1 game

NHL claims they want to crack down on this stuff well there yah go. That way we see what Zadorov, Soucy, and Hyman did again fine you sit a game and gain a record
Forum: NHL21 hours ago
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>What Hyman did was worse than Soucy and Zadorov. He intentionally cross checked Zadorov in the face, giving Zadorov a cut that required stitches. None of them deserve suspensions, but if anyone does it’s Hyman</div></div>

Soucy deserved a suspension sorry. After he slashed McDavid he then decided to crosscheck and while Zadorov's crosscheck which was also bad due to going for a guy not paying attention in the back lead to it being higher both players should know better

League has said its cracking down on this stuff and when you both guys decided lets double team McDavid and start a brawl. Not a good look and both needed to be told thats a no no. After Soucy slashed McDavid back that should have been it but Zadorov escalated it. This then results in the scrum which leads to ABC

But in the end if Zadorov didnt do what he did none of that would have happened.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 2:17 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 2:09 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I played around with ACGM today.

Marner plus for Saros plus with retention
Liljegren for Sandin like package

Brought back Bertuzzi at 4.5 with term and Lybushkin at 2
Added Walker at 4 million and Montour at 6 million
Added Lindholm at 7 million, hoping Tre has inside track
Added Arvidsson for playmaking for 1 year only</div></div>

I feel Liligren's value is probs where Durzi's was or a tad less

Probs expect a pick from very late 30's to mid 40's. Gonna guess the 40 OA pick

A few guys have been underpaid here like Walker and Montour and I just cant see Bertuzzi sign that. Guy wants term and someone's gonna throw at least 5 at him.

Lindholm's gonna get 7.5-8.5m thats my guess rn and I think Vans gonna give it to him.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 1:44 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I would like to see the Leafs try to get Lindholm and Zadorov the FA tbh... Especially if the Leafs deal Marner

Both have been super impactful in the playoffs (Z: 9 GP 4G 3A 7P and Lindholm: 9 GP 5G 2A 7P)

I can see Zadorov getting 3-3.5 and Lindholm getting 5.5-6.5 on a 1 year prove it deal...

Assuming Marner gets traded... Wouldn't mind:

Bert (4.5) - Matthews - Domi (3)
McMann - JT - Willy
Knies - Lindholm (6.5) - Jarnkrok
Dewar (1) - Kampf - Holmberg

Rielly - Pesce (5.5)
Z (3.5) - McCabe
Benoit - Lilly (2.25)
Webber

Woll
Stolarz (2.2)
Hildeby

Cap space: 1.24 mill which covers if I'm undercutting, trying to overestimate my numbers but you never know</div></div>

Why would Lindholm take that?

Canucks will probs give him 7.5m - 8m heck almost every other team in FA would probs beat that

Zadorov aint a top 4 Dman and he aint signing that. With his playoffs he's getting at least 5m

That goaltending Trio is way to risky of a gamble as none of these guys has even hit the 30 game mark and we expect one or both to reach 40......

And did we just trade Marner for FC lul
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 11:06 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I kind of want to stay away from Tanev mostly due to the mileage on his body.

A combination of Roy and Montour or Montour and Demelo not something you like?

Also, where do people see Liljegren fitting on this team? Or is maybe his time to prove that he's more than a 3rd pair D up?

What would you even want in a Liljegren trade.</div></div>

At this point I think Tanev is inevitable but through watching him in DAL I think he's fine especially if he signs like 3.25m

Rielly-Tanev would probs not be all that bad considering the circumstances and playstyle of both

I feel if we do its gonna be Walker + Tanev especially if Brad cant get Marner or JT to waive. Montour is probs gonna cost to much and Roy Im 50/50 on in terms of is he gonna want to come or go

Liligren's either here via third pair or gone