If we look at the UFA market there are a few D with a good shot

Skjei, Montour, OEL, Ghost, Gustafsson, Walker

Skjei and Montour feel like a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Both are gonna cost 6-7m and thats to much

Ghost is a 1-way Dman like Barrie and Klingberg and is just gonna give the fans more headaches than he's worth and will probs cost around 5m

OEL is havign a nice little season but when you look his shooting % is higher than it was in Van. Tends to happen in FLA

Gus was here already and was a nice little piece but like Ghost is a 1-way LD and TOR should not be eyeing that


So that leaves Walker. That may very well be the choice rn should cost around 4-5m. After that can go target a Rielly partner like Demelo, Roy, Tanev, etc.

Watching FLA play these playoffs is why I want to see TOR make changes both out of necessity but also to just follow in their footsteps

As that team made changes and is not the big dog of the Atlantic

They went out and got Maurice to be the HC

Zito had the ballz to make some big trades and while some didnt work out others paid big

They went out in FA and added some nice pieces

Going to have to take a chance on one of these guys. None of them scream clear number 1 D but it's from what's available. Try to get Montour at 6 million.



I'm not saying Sorokin is being traded but you should still have a conversation because you never know when an organization has a change of heart or just decides on a different strategy.

I kind of want to stay away from Tanev mostly due to the mileage on his body.

A combination of Roy and Montour or Montour and Demelo not something you like?

Also, where do people see Liljegren fitting on this team? Or is maybe his time to prove that he's more than a 3rd pair D up?

What would you even want in a Liljegren trade.

At this point I think Tanev is inevitable but through watching him in DAL I think he's fine especially if he signs like 3.25m

Rielly-Tanev would probs not be all that bad considering the circumstances and playstyle of both

I feel if we do its gonna be Walker + Tanev especially if Brad cant get Marner or JT to waive. Montour is probs gonna cost to much and Roy Im 50/50 on in terms of is he gonna want to come or go

Liligren's either here via third pair or gone

I would like to see the Leafs try to get Lindholm and Zadorov the FA tbh... Especially if the Leafs deal Marner

Both have been super impactful in the playoffs (Z: 9 GP 4G 3A 7P and Lindholm: 9 GP 5G 2A 7P)

I can see Zadorov getting 3-3.5 and Lindholm getting 5.5-6.5 on a 1 year prove it deal...

Assuming Marner gets traded... Wouldn't mind:

Bert (4.5) - Matthews - Domi (3)
McMann - JT - Willy
Knies - Lindholm (6.5) - Jarnkrok
Dewar (1) - Kampf - Holmberg

Rielly - Pesce (5.5)
Z (3.5) - McCabe
Benoit - Lilly (2.25)
Webber

Woll
Stolarz (2.2)
Hildeby

Cap space: 1.24 mill which covers if I'm undercutting, trying to overestimate my numbers but you never know

But what is Marner getting traded for and to whom?
Have to think we are taking some salary back.

I keep thinking Utah makes a ton of sense...

It's likely going to be a team with cap space, or a 3 way deal where the 3rd team takes some salary back tbh

But what is Marner getting traded for and to whom?
Have to think we are taking some salary back.

You still did not mention the return back

Why would Lindholm take that?

Canucks will probs give him 7.5m - 8m heck almost every other team in FA would probs beat that

Zadorov aint a top 4 Dman and he aint signing that. With his playoffs he's getting at least 5m

That goaltending Trio is way to risky of a gamble as none of these guys has even hit the 30 game mark and we expect one or both to reach 40......

And did we just trade Marner for FC lul

So its pretty clear whose the new HC

They saw the same guy twice and when that happens its pretty clear lul

I played around with ACGM today.

Marner plus for Saros plus with retention
Liljegren for Sandin like package

Brought back Bertuzzi at 4.5 with term and Lybushkin at 2
Added Walker at 4 million and Montour at 6 million
Added Lindholm at 7 million, hoping Tre has inside track
Added Arvidsson for playmaking for 1 year only

I feel Liligren's value is probs where Durzi's was or a tad less

Probs expect a pick from very late 30's to mid 40's. Gonna guess the 40 OA pick

A few guys have been underpaid here like Walker and Montour and I just cant see Bertuzzi sign that. Guy wants term and someone's gonna throw at least 5 at him.

Lindholm's gonna get 7.5-8.5m thats my guess rn and I think Vans gonna give it to him.

Possibly.
I wanted to a C that could play up if need be while still adding D improvements.

There is room for adjustments with a sacrifice if need be.

Marner for purely a goalie and cap space seems light though

I say wait for C till the next summer not this one

Options are meh and depending on if Marner or JT waive or dont waive their NMC we dont got a lot of space to work with

The following year both guys are off the books and there are some nice options to target then


If both dont waive focus should be on Defense and looking at a Saros trade for assets. Afterwards come the following season we can then improve the forward core

You made it pretty clear that you would prefer Berube and I understand why...just want you to consider that Berube had Pietroanglo who played at the highest level in St. Louis. The guy also raised the play of Parayko and whoever else he was on the ice with.

There's no Pietroanglo on this team, not even close. Berube also had Binnington who went on a crazy run,stole multiple games in multiple series. Don't have that either. I'm not sure what to think of Berube as an option here but the talent at certain positions definitely isn't the same as was in St. Louis.

Kind of like a Bertuzzi type deal...

I don't see the Canucks affording him and Hronek...

And Z's unlikely to get 5... Teams don't put enough stock in playoffs to pay 1.75x... Kind of like what happened with Bert

The games would go:
Woll: 41
Stolarz: 30
Hildeby: 11

And the Marner deal would be picks and prospects based in this scenario

Because that was not the point of the idea

Why would Lindholm need to take a Bertuzzi type deal. With the playoffs hes having Van will probs pay him 7.5m with term

Holl got 3.4m and was dog**** in the playoffs

Zadorov is having himself a time these playoffs and GM's just love these giant physical Dman we saw it last year all were getting overpaid

He's getting 5m

And do we really see Woll getting to 41 games

Kid just cant stay healthy and has not reached 30 games since 2019-2020

Would not have a lot of confidence in that trio as if Woll goes down especially come playoffs how much faith we got in the other two. TOR needs to go invest in someone who can take the load

Holl got 3.4 mill because he was a RHD... That has nothing to do with the LHD Zadorov...

Again... Bert had 10 points in 7 playoff games: 5.5 on a 1 year deal

Domi had 13 points in 20 playoff games: 3 mill on a 1 year deal

Mikkola (Big and strong and 2 points in 7 playoff games): 2.5 mill

Teams aren't as jumpy as you think

Mikkola is not a good comparable to Zadorov. If anything Mikkola is more of a comparable to Holl at the time. Plus remember FLA tax takes 1-1.5m off the next deal

Look what Chiarot got from DET or Gudas got from ANA

Caps going up and teams want these big physical guys who can PK, move the puck here and there, and add something to the playoffs

He's getting 5m from someone especially after these playoffs.

As for the Bert and Domi theres context. Bertuzzi came here as the big long term deal was not out there from BOS or anyone else and for a while he almost made us regret it. Domi yes took less term and money to come but thats a whole different matter

Van will look to keep Lindholm and will probs extend him and let Zadorov go as he's gonna cost them to much. As Lindholm really dont have a big reason for a prove it. If he wants it why not just stay and do it in Van lul

I have zero faith that Woll will play 41 games. I do like him but he hasn't proven he can stay healthy. I mean if he does stay healthy and plays relatively well, that's very good news for the organization.

Yep I can see him get 25 maybe 30 but 40+ yea no

He's not gotten over 30 games since 2019-2020

Tor needs to go out and get someone who can play 40+

I think he can... Yes, he gets injured concerningly high... But if you look at those plays that got him hurt, the team stopped playing defence for the last 15 seconds + unfortunate play...

I think the goalie coach will work with Woll to not get hurt in those scenarios

*Ahem*

How bout them Knights?