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Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
3 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>I know we all like to hate on Keefe, but I gotta admit that video he put together made me a little sad. Wish him the best of luck in the future! Definitely was time to move on though.</div></div>
Yah for sure, I really liked how he took responsibility for the loss. He didn’t have to do that and it’s more than any of his star players did. All the best Sheldon, good luck in Pittsburg or wherever you end up
Forum:
NHL
6 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WJC_Enthusiast</b></div><div>Just got a notification from TSN: Keefe has been fired</div></div>
Surprise surprise lol
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
7 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
Keefe fired. Saw that one coming a mile away. Can’t say I’m sad to see him go lol. But I do hope he’s not scapegoated as he was not the only problem with this team.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
7 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Oh boy. Did I get skewered?
Also, why does everyone pronouce my name as twenty-one fifty-two?
It's two-one-five-two lmao</div></div>
He wasn’t terribly hard on you, he thought it was one of the better ones but he did call it “something you’d do on NHL 24” lol.
Lol, I didn’t know it really mattered but I’ll have to keep that in mind lol
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
23 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
Hey <a href="/users/Random2152" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Random2152</a>
I was watching an OhNyquist video (for anyone unfamiliar he’s a hockey YouTuber with like 75k subscribers) where he reacted to capfriendly ACGM or trade machine trades and your suggestion of Marner for Ekblad and Knight came up lol. For anyone interested to see his take on it the link is <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJFkDNR0AE" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">here</a>
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mon. at 9:04 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>The guy is terrible infront of a mic, no denying that. I also read that and thought "Mitch, SHUT UP" because he has a habit of saying the wrong thing. But the intent behind this particular statement is pretty clear, even if he chose his words poorly.</div></div>
Yah that’s fair enough, it’s just there’s so many reasons to trade this guy and it feels like this is tossing another one onto the pile
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mon. at 8:56 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>I didn't view it like that at all. I think if anything he was trying to make a point of the fan support in the city - especially when you win (mentions the love for the raptors)... Of all the things to get worked up about, this ain't it, imo</div></div>
Yah but it just gives off this attitude that he’s above everyone else. It’s not the end of the world but it’s a really bad look
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mon. at 6:28 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>It is. It's a window into his mind and it's not good. He sees himself as bigger than anything else. He's probably a decent teammate but he's pretty immature. He's gotta go.
Take a look at a few cities and decide where you want to go. But its not here anymore. Doesn't matter if you are a local boy, god complexes are for somewhere else.</div></div>
Another thing to add, it’s not like it just slipped out. If you watch the interview you can see he says “here in Toronto… (he paused and tried to think of the right word), we get treated, well, like Gods”. This wasn’t a misspeak or it just slipping out. He knew exactly what he was saying. And that makes it 10 times worse
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Mon. at 6:14 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Geez I just read his comments in his short media availability today. "You get treated like a god here". Alright, **** off Marner. You're no god, your a spoiled brat though.</div></div>
Yah, I understand what point he was trying to make but the fact that that actually came out of his mouth is pathetic. What a slap in the face to your fans man
Forum:
NHL
Mon. at 11:00 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Kind of, I did go 7-1 but I had the Jets winning the cup so my brackets dead even if I'm 7-1</div></div>
I’m the opposite lol, I went 4-4 (terrible lol), but my bracket is still redeemable with both my cup finalists still there
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>If the leafs let JT walk and signed Marner to 11m x 6 years I wouldnt be ecstatic but wouldn't be to bothered either as then you have JT's money to work with which is a lot
Can go get a cheaper 2c and other stuff like Bennett</div></div>
No. I don’t want Marner resigning with this team unless it’s for like 8 mil or less. Which is not happening obviously. Not do I want JT back for anything over like 4 mil
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsForLife</b></div><div>Seeing a lot of stuff on this forum on whether or not the Core 4 would succeed in the playoffs under different coaching (HC and all ACs). What would everyone think of this idea:
Obviously, fire entire coaching staff. Since Tavares’ and Marner’s contracts end next year, they have 1 year to prove it was the coaching that was the problem. If the Leafs follow this plan and go on a run, that’s great. If not, their contracts are off the books.
If you don’t like this idea, fair enough, but explain why you think it wouldn’t work.</div></div>
If it truly is going to be the last year for Marner and Tavares, fine. I just know if they’re kept around they’re probably going to get resigned, which would be a horrible idea
Forum:
NHL
Sun. at 4:31 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>If Mitch Marner is DeMar DeRozan, then who is Kawhi Leonard?</div></div>
Not just a single player. Trading Marner for one player, especially a forward is kind of dumb
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 12:25 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
Just throwing <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaSTATS/status/1786979532945101120?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this</a> out there
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 12:20 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Yes I think it's a distinct possibility.</div></div>
Hey I appreciate the optimism but with all due respect I think you’re nuts
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 11:40 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I think the system doesn't work in the playoffs and Keefe never adjusts.</div></div>
Again, I’m happy to fire Keefe. But is he really the biggest problem here? Do you really believe once he’s fired Marner is just going to magically become a good playoff performer?
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 11:17 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>That's fair...
And BTW, I'm also giving Willy a pass for that series too for that same reason... I think Matthews was doing his best (6, 8 hits in 2 games is very good)... But where you play sick/injured, it's impossible to be generational</div></div>
Yes and that’s fair. Especially if we find out it was something very serious and that he wasn’t playing 100% for game 7, he can probably get a pass. I’m just sick of the constant losing is all
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 11:17 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>You are emotional and rational thought has left you. Changes will come but change for the sake of change is dumb. It's obvious the coach is terrible, start there and see what else comes.
Unfortunately we have to rely on Treliving and his wisdom of nonsense.</div></div>
How is it dumb to make change for the sake of change. Again, 8 years! With no other team would even half that be acceptable. Changes should have come after the Montreal loss. Scapegoating only Keefe is getting us nowhere. No one is saying he’s a good coach or needs to stay, it goes with saying that he needs to be fired. But it’s not enough. We need to shake up this core
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I'm sorry... But when you are talking about him playing through concussions or MCL sprains... I can't agree here...
I'm all for giving Willy a pass... But if we aren't giving Matthews a pass for play hurt, we can't give Willy one either
If you want Matthews gone, then we should also explore Willy trades as well bc he's getting paid 11.5 and wasn't on that next level</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>He was injured, you can't blame him for that. Like I said, emotional.</div></div>
Fair enough, I suppose it might be best to wait until we hear what actually happened to him before I judge him. I’m just annoyed because he’s never looked like a generational talent in the playoffs like he does in the regular season. Again, I’m not going to be disappointed when he’s a leafs next season. He’s a phenomenal player. We I don’t get how this crap is just always brushed off every year. He needs to be called out more.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>4 points in 5 games... All primary... When he's clearly sick/injured... With the most hits...
That's the most anyone's shown up</div></div>
For most people I’d agree but this is Auston Matthews we’re talking about. He’s supposed to be on another level and he never is come playoff time. I’m not going to get as mad at him as others (coughMitchcough) but he still needs to take some of the blame for this
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 10:03 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>So what you are suggesting is trading the only guy whom showed up?
That’s dumb IMO… Matthews showed up sick and injured and preformed better than any other player on this hockey team, with the exception of Joseph Woll.</div></div>
Since when is one goal in 5 games showing up?
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Sun. at 9:59 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>That's an extreme and unnecessary take. I think we should give Boston some credit, specifically swayman, they really didn't make scoring easy.
But Woll should have started game 2 and who knows what would have happened.
Get a good coach and see what this team can be. The current one sucks.</div></div>
I don’t understand how it’s extreme. This is year 8 of the MMN era. Year 8! And they only one playoff series win together. No, it is not extreme to do something that should have been done following the pathetic collapse to Montreal. It would be extreme to NOT do that.
Forum:
NHL
Sun. at 1:05 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>It's not that this team would be better without Marner, it's that this team would be better if we didn't adopt that braindead "core 4" philosophy. When has a hockey team ever won off of the back of 4 players? If that's how it worked, Thornton and Marleau and Pavelski would have Cups.
Marner is the only member of the core 4 that can even be entertained in trade discussions. Nylander is locked up and a clutch player. Matthews is the franchise. Tavares is a dinosaur making 11mil. Marner is a good player who is a pending UFA with a full NMC. The fact that is our only tradeable asset out of the 4 shows how dire our situation is.
I know thay some fans fear that the Leafs will be too scared of getting fleeced and will just wind up committing to Marner long term. That wouldnt be the worst thing, but it makes next year rough. Marner is my favourite Leaf, but if he gets re-signed then next season is going to be tough to navigate. Not impossible to navigate, but so many domino's have to fall into place. If they don't move him, then it's a wash next year. Gotta wait until JT expires to even have a shred of hope for competing. Need to draft a 2C in the first round this year.
I dont think the Leafs need to trade Marner, but its definitely an avenue worth exploring if the value presents itself. Making a move for the sake of making a move when the oldest member of the core 4 is only one season away from expiring would set us so far back. I really doubt we see anything happen on that front.</div></div>
Most of this is spot on, except for the part about not needing to trade Marner. They absolutely do need to trade him ASAP. He’s always been crap when it matters most and is not going to ever be a core piece on a cup winning team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:00 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>Jenner has one of the best contracts in the NHL and is also the Jackets captain. He is not available. The deal offered is just horrible. Leafs don’t have the assets to land a big time player.</div></div>
Yah I thought that’d be the case but I thought I’d try
Yes they do lol, no matter what you think of Mitch Marner he’s still going to be a coveted player by a lot of teams. They can flip those assets for someone else if they want, or pursue UFAs with his cap space.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 12:58 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tony_Campolo</b></div><div>lmao just no</div></div>
Have fun losing to Boston again next year with invisible man Marner doing absolutely nothing then
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