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CameronSquires

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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs58 minutes ago
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>See this is where Bias and not looking at the bigger picture comes in

At the time Kadri was traded people all over the NHL praised the return

Barrie was a offensive weapon with the Avs giving them around 50 points and 10 goals a season and Kerfoot was a 40+ point young C for them. And considering how much Kerfoot influenced this teams bottom 6 and PK and when he left the numbers dropped pretty evident. For Barrie Babcock pretty much almost ruined the guy. Could we have gotten better sure but Kadri had hurt his rep with suspensions and his trade protection didnt help. Sounds like someone else we know minus the suspensions

For Marleau had to move him as Marner was due for a new deal. Maybe could have done it for 2 2nds or 2nd + 3rd but would still have not been cheap

Why would we have traded JVR and Bozak when in 2017-2018 Leafs were having their best season at the time (105 points) and can apply the same to Gardiner to

Like I get it but competing teams dont trade their pending UFA's. Did TBL trade Stamkos?, did NYI trade JT?, did CBJ trade Panarin or CGY Gaudreau?

These are the risks competing teams go through year in and out

The only guys I will agree were Boyle and Plekenic thats it</div></div>

The cap hit for Marleau was insane with the term too, I think the signing was a mistake for the price and I love Marleau.

Zaitsev contract was bad too don't forget
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs1 hour ago
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>One thing that really gets overlooked when judging the organization/Shanahan is how poorly they handled the years after drafting Matthews.

From 2017-2021 when Matthews was 19-23 the Leafs:
1. Let Kadri go for no substantial return (Could have got a 1st+)
2. Traded a 1st to dump Marleau
3. Traded a 2nd for 2 months of Plekanec
4. Traded a 2nd for 2 months of Boyle
5. Let Bozak walk (Could have got a 1st+)
6. Let JVR walk (Could have got a 1st+)
7. Let Gardiner walk (Could have got a 2nd)
8. Signed Zaitsev to a deal that cost use Brown

If the team had continued to remain commited to the rebuild and longterm, even just through the end of the 2018 season (thats two years of Matthews career where they don't prioritize winning). Today we'd have 4 more 1st round picks, 3 more 2nd round picks. This is the depth/trade pieces/capital/etc. that we've been missing.

I really think Shanahan's failures go way beyond his commitment to the core 4. He drafted three studs in his first three years as President but I don't think any other decision he's made is beyond criticism and with hindsight they are pretty much all wrong. From hiring Babcock to firing Lou, hiring Dubas, hiring Keefe, going for it in Matthews first few seasons, Kadri trade, Contract negotiations, team building strategy, all failures.</div></div>

1. Dubas
2. Lamoriello (Signed) Dubas (Dumped)
3. Lamoriello
4. Lamoriello
5. Dubas
6. Dubas
7. Dubas
8. Lamoriello

TLDR: Dubas loves letting guys walk for nothing, but Lamoriello seems to love giving horrible contracts that takes assets to dump and overpays on trades
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs1 hour ago
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>One thing that really gets overlooked when judging the organization/Shanahan is how poorly they handled the years after drafting Matthews.

From 2017-2021 when Matthews was 19-23 the Leafs:
1. Let Kadri go for no substantial return (Could have got a 1st+)
2. Traded a 1st to dump Marleau
3. Traded a 2nd for 2 months of Plekanec
4. Traded a 2nd for 2 months of Boyle
5. Let Bozak walk (Could have got a 1st+)
6. Let JVR walk (Could have got a 1st+)
7. Let Gardiner walk (Could have got a 2nd)
8. Signed Zaitsev to a deal that cost use Brown

If the team had continued to remain commited to the rebuild and longterm, even just through the end of the 2018 season (thats two years of Matthews career where they don't prioritize winning). Today we'd have 4 more 1st round picks, 3 more 2nd round picks. This is the depth/trade pieces/capital/etc. that we've been missing.

I really think Shanahan's failures go way beyond his commitment to the core 4. He drafted three studs in his first three years as President but I don't think any other decision he's made is beyond criticism and with hindsight they are pretty much all wrong. From hiring Babcock to firing Lou, hiring Dubas, hiring Keefe, going for it in Matthews first few seasons, Kadri trade, Contract negotiations, team building strategy, all failures.</div></div>

Yep. It has been real frustrating looking back on all the players/picks/assets we've missed over dumb decisions.
Forum: Other LeaguesSun. at 11:03 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: How Berube elevates performance in playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>I don't think what you think would be brushed aside just because of who you cheer for so long as your proposals don't look like the OP and you stick around and try to have a conversation where you're open to feedback, as you said.

But most interactions with Leafs fans here are such that OP will post a deal like this, and then completely abandon the thread without taking any of the feedback given (and even post a similar deal in about an hour or two), OR will stick around and double down on his proposal without taking any of the feedback given.

It is unfortunate for fans like you, but that really is just the way it is around here, a lot of the time.</div></div>

Yeah I agree, it is occasionally brushed aside, specifically by a couple users which I will not name, but most are very respectful. I try to take every criticism into account and learn and improve, and I am happy to discuss anything, even if I don't agree.

It's unfortunate you &amp; most haven't had great experiences with a lot of Leafs fans on here, I wish I could change that but I am only one person.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 3:37 p.m.
Thread: How Berube elevates performance in playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Let me be clear.

It's a relativistic generalization. Sure, it's not all Leafs fans. A few are pretty level-headed and know what the hell they're talking about. Those fans wisdom is both welcomed and appreciated on here.

pahal falls into such a category around here.

The problem is the OTHER 96% of Leafs fans that post asinine BS on here give them the reputation they have on site. It's very much deserved, whether you like it or not.

It is what it is. And this one doesn't help that reputation by any means.</div></div>

I try to be realistic as possible, but bias affects everyone to a point which I try to take into consideration as much as I can.

I just dislike having anything I think be brushed aside due to who I cheer for, I think that is unfair.

However, I do see your side of it as well.

(and yes I don't agree with this ACGM either.)