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En Route to the Playoffs

Created by: MajesticWalrus
Team: 2017-18 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2017
Published: Aug. 9, 2017
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Not so far fetched and all it would take is some good coaching decisions and a bit more signing. It's been a while since Canucks have been in good hands as far as management (coaching & general managing that is...although I do like these offseason signings Benning did this year)
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6$6,000,000
1$650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
3$2,600,000
2$900,000
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$76,000,000$73,604,166$0$3,857,500$2,395,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$1,850,000$1,850,000
LW
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 6
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 2
$2,600,000$2,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
$687,500$687,500
LW
UFA - 1
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
$894,166$894,166
LD
UFA - 4
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
G
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
$755,000$755,000 (Performance Bonus$95,000$95K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 9, 2017 at 7:28 a.m.
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You will be lucky to not finish in the bottom 3 this year
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Aug. 9, 2017 at 12:11 p.m.
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Horvat will probably sign for a little less $5.3x6

Why did you send Hutton and Sutter to the minors... We'd probably loose both of them on waivers if that happened... They're good players IMO

Guys like Virtanen, Subban, Demko, Goldobin etc won't benefit from little to no ice time
Aug. 11, 2017 at 5:47 p.m.
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This team isn't making the playoffs. Why sign those UFA's? Should have began full-scale rebuild 3 years ago. Don't understand why the goal would be making the playoffs; short-sighted, far-fetched, and they aren't winning the cup with this roster or a similar roster regardless. Building through the draft with a guy like Svechnikov or Dahlin would be far more beneficial than signing any free agent or attempting to make the playoffs.
Aug. 12, 2017 at 1:44 a.m.
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Horvat will probably sign for a little less $5.3x6

Why did you send Hutton and Sutter to the minors... We'd probably loose both of them on waivers if that happened... They're good players IMO

Guys like Virtanen, Subban, Demko, Goldobin etc won't benefit from little to no ice time


I sent Sutter and Hutton to the minors because there horrible and overpayed. So we would save money by burying them. Losing them on waivers would be a good thing... Very beneficial to the team and our cap.

Why do you speak so highly of Sutter. Sutters a puck hog as shown thru his abilities to not pass to his team mates and that he barely has any primary assists or even assists in general for that matter. And for someone who hogs pucks, he's got bad shot generation. He's never had more than 19 assists to prove this. As a matter of fact he never had more than 40 pts. The former 1st round pick has played 9 seasons so it's safe to say he's a flop. Canucks a bad team excuse? He was still horrendous on Pittsburgh, which is a good team and won two cups in a row right after booting him. Third liner excuse? He got 2nd line ice time so that's not a valid argument. He's overpaid and would make a great salary dump.

And don't even get me started on Hutton... Absolutely useless.

And if we can pay eriksson 6 mil then we can pay horvat that, besides a ton of cap would now be available from dumping salary cap munching expendables.
Aug. 12, 2017 at 1:48 a.m.
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This team isn't making the playoffs. Why sign those UFA's? Should have began full-scale rebuild 3 years ago. Don't understand why the goal would be making the playoffs; short-sighted, far-fetched, and they aren't winning the cup with this roster or a similar roster regardless. Building through the draft with a guy like Svechnikov or Dahlin would be far more beneficial than signing any free agent or attempting to make the playoffs.


Detroit had a streak going with how many years they made the playoffs in a row and Montreal dominated the playoffs for years a long time ago. People think losing teams can only be shaped into winning ones by rebuilding nowadays. But, the same acquisitions and departures made by winning franchises that win for years-- losing teams need to make the same type of acquisitions and departures and they can turn into a team that can win too
Aug. 12, 2017 at 8:14 p.m.
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This team isn't making the playoffs. Why sign those UFA's? Should have began full-scale rebuild 3 years ago. Don't understand why the goal would be making the playoffs; short-sighted, far-fetched, and they aren't winning the cup with this roster or a similar roster regardless. Building through the draft with a guy like Svechnikov or Dahlin would be far more beneficial than signing any free agent or attempting to make the playoffs.


Detroit had a streak going with how many years they made the playoffs in a row and Montreal dominated the playoffs for years a long time ago. People think losing teams can only be shaped into winning ones by rebuilding nowadays. But, the same acquisitions and departures made by winning franchises that win for years-- losing teams need to make the same type of acquisitions and departures and they can turn into a team that can win too




Sure, Chicago has also done the same. Although can you name a losing team that has tried and succeeded with that strategy? I can think of one team that was in a very similar situation that has tried, the Brian Burke era with the Leafs. They made the playoffs one year and didn't have much of a chance of winning the cup.
Also, the strategy you are suggesting is what the Canucks have used since they lost in the cup final, needless to say it has worked wonders!
What assets can this team trade to magically become a playoff contender? Considering that they are much closer to the bottom than the top of the standings, getting a player like Svechnikov or Dahlin would do much more than any trade I can imagine. If signing a top UFA is an option, that is a direction to think about, but attempting to trade and sign your way out of last place seems improbable.
Aug. 13, 2017 at 4:04 p.m.
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Detroit had a streak going with how many years they made the playoffs in a row and Montreal dominated the playoffs for years a long time ago. People think losing teams can only be shaped into winning ones by rebuilding nowadays. But, the same acquisitions and departures made by winning franchises that win for years-- losing teams need to make the same type of acquisitions and departures and they can turn into a team that can win too




Sure, Chicago has also done the same. Although can you name a losing team that has tried and succeeded with that strategy? I can think of one team that was in a very similar situation that has tried, the Brian Burke era with the Leafs. They made the playoffs one year and didn't have much of a chance of winning the cup.
Also, the strategy you are suggesting is what the Canucks have used since they lost in the cup final, needless to say it has worked wonders!
What assets can this team trade to magically become a playoff contender? Considering that they are much closer to the bottom than the top of the standings, getting a player like Svechnikov or Dahlin would do much more than any trade I can imagine. If signing a top UFA is an option, that is a direction to think about, but attempting to trade and sign your way out of last place seems improbable.


Canucks still have decent prospects in the system that have the potential to pan out like any other team. If Canucks trade and sign like I'm saying while brining in a prospect like boeser. They got a shot. Losing team that has succeeded at this strategy is Florida. Bottom of the league for years, traded for Luongo, signed Jagr, traded for Reilly Smith, acquired Willie Mitchell, etc and also brought up Ekblad and Barkov and they were instantly a playoff team again. And then they continued to do this and they got even better. With Marchessault even though they lost him but they now have Dadonov, etc...
Aug. 14, 2017 at 6:55 p.m.
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Sure, Chicago has also done the same. Although can you name a losing team that has tried and succeeded with that strategy? I can think of one team that was in a very similar situation that has tried, the Brian Burke era with the Leafs. They made the playoffs one year and didn't have much of a chance of winning the cup.
Also, the strategy you are suggesting is what the Canucks have used since they lost in the cup final, needless to say it has worked wonders!
What assets can this team trade to magically become a playoff contender? Considering that they are much closer to the bottom than the top of the standings, getting a player like Svechnikov or Dahlin would do much more than any trade I can imagine. If signing a top UFA is an option, that is a direction to think about, but attempting to trade and sign your way out of last place seems improbable.


Canucks still have decent prospects in the system that have the potential to pan out like any other team. If Canucks trade and sign like I'm saying while brining in a prospect like boeser. They got a shot. Losing team that has succeeded at this strategy is Florida. Bottom of the league for years, traded for Luongo, signed Jagr, traded for Reilly Smith, acquired Willie Mitchell, etc and also brought up Ekblad and Barkov and they were instantly a playoff team again. And then they continued to do this and they got even better. With Marchessault even though they lost him but they now have Dadonov, etc...



Florida made it to the playoffs once with the team you're talking about and lost in the first round, so I don't really see how they have continued to be a playoff team. They will most likely be a borderline team next year and they are definitely not a cup contender. Maybe we are talking about different things here, because your strategy has worked as a quick-fix to make a playoff team, but that clearly does not create a sustainable playoff contender. Only 2 of the last 46 Stanley Cup champs have not had at least one top 3 overall draft pick on their roster, the last was the Avalanche in 2001. I'm not saying that its one or the other, but acquiring top picks through the draft first, is the most sensible path for the Canucks.
Aug. 14, 2017 at 10:48 p.m.
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Canucks still have decent prospects in the system that have the potential to pan out like any other team. If Canucks trade and sign like I'm saying while brining in a prospect like boeser. They got a shot. Losing team that has succeeded at this strategy is Florida. Bottom of the league for years, traded for Luongo, signed Jagr, traded for Reilly Smith, acquired Willie Mitchell, etc and also brought up Ekblad and Barkov and they were instantly a playoff team again. And then they continued to do this and they got even better. With Marchessault even though they lost him but they now have Dadonov, etc...



Florida made it to the playoffs once with the team you're talking about and lost in the first round, so I don't really see how they have continued to be a playoff team. They will most likely be a borderline team next year and they are definitely not a cup contender. Maybe we are talking about different things here, because your strategy has worked as a quick-fix to make a playoff team, but that clearly does not create a sustainable playoff contender. Only 2 of the last 46 Stanley Cup champs have not had at least one top 3 overall draft pick on their roster, the last was the Avalanche in 2001. I'm not saying that its one or the other, but acquiring top picks through the draft first, is the most sensible path for the Canucks.


What about LA
Sep. 2, 2017 at 8:21 p.m.
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Doughty, 3rd overall in 2008. Do you mean the team that was a non-playoff team for years, selected at the top of the draft for years and built a core of Kopitar, Quick, and Doughty? With that solid core they were able to build through the draft, Lombardi made an unreal trade to get Carter and Richards, two of the best in the league at the time. They also signed Gaborik as a free-agent. Like I said before, signing free-agents is crucial to making a top team, but you have to have the building blocks in place in order to do so. For what its worth, you won't get a trade with the value of Richards and Carter, that was a very rare thing to move the two best forwards on a team in one trade. Anyone else?
Sep. 3, 2017 at 3:29 a.m.
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hahahahahahaha....playoffs?.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sep. 3, 2017 at 1:38 p.m.
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hahahahahahaha....playoffs?.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


exactly
 
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