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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2017 at 3:58 a.m.
Thread: cam neely rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TopCornerShot</b></div><div>A lot of people have covered what I would say, but some things I didn't see are:

Beleskey on line 4 instead of Vatrano. Vatrano is average or below in every aspect of Hockey except his Shot and his Speed. Those qualities are not something to put on a traditional 4th line, which I believe we will be using.

Swzarz is a career AHLer. The last career AHLer we gave a break to was a fellow named Bobby Robbins. I have zero respect for the Bruins decision to play Robbins and the ass spanking we received from Washington in 2014 October 11th, in a 4-0 loss in which the momentum started by Robbins "kneeing" the opponent and then getting into a fight, is exactly what we deserved. We just got smoked after they scored on the very PP he was serving and we basically got manhandled the rest of the game after that joke of a player brought cheap shots into the game. You do recall that we missed the playoffs by 2 points that year. If we didn't totally get our **** pushed in by Washington that game, we would have went into that final game against TB knowing if we won we'd be in. A lot less pressure than we were in. Pittsburg won their game and we only tied ours, we ended 2 points back in the points column, but had we won that game we surrendered and won our less game with the pressure off, we would have finished one point better than Pittsburg and in the playoffs.

I know Szwarz might be a different kind of player than Robbins, but he's had 35 NHL games and produced 5 Points. To me that sounds like a guy who's going to be put into an "energy line role" As you have him, and I don't think he's got practice at it, given he scored 54 points in 65 games. That seems like someone who's an AHL scorer, who's a serious risk to bring to the NHL for a checking line role. I'm not confident he knows how to straddle the line without going over it and we can't afford to give games away because of a 4th liner. No Bobby Robbins', No Zac Rinaldo's, No Career AHLers who don't even play in a 4th line role there. IF HE HAS TO COME UP HE SHOULD PLAY IN THE TOP 9. You don't put someone who's not comfortable in their role out on the ice, that's practically the easiest way to lose a game before you even take the ice.

Sorry if I'm piling on, but I still go ape **** about Bobby ******* Robbins in 2014 throwing away a game and then us missing the playoffs by 2 points. I doubt anyone else remembers it, but I can never forget it.</div></div>

You are living in a dream world!!!! Szwarz is nothing like Robbins, Robbins was a goon, Szwarz is not, he's simply a "late bloomer"....ever heard of Tim Thomas???????????
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2017 at 7:45 a.m.
Thread: cam neely rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TopCornerShot</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>

Weird on the Brampton thing. I honestly suck at geography so I googled it and it say Brampton to Toronto was 46.1km. As far as the deal goes, I've let it go, but at the end of the day I still don't think Cam is good in a management role. He's the one that led the charge in the Seguin trade, he's the one that wanted to keep CJ around for so long and I just don't see what he brings to the team outside of his name.</div></div>

I agree that Cam Neely sucks, but Seguin had to go from what I heard, like immediately. I heard Seguin "Knew" Hortons wife, in Bible terms, and that Horton was going to be going to jail the rest of his life for his actions if they didn't get Seguin out ASAP. I don't believe thats a conspiracy at all, I think it's the honest truth and forced Chiarelli's hand. They had no other choice because Seguin is a turd of a person off the Ice.</div></div>

Yes, Seguin was banging Horton's wife. Here is the thing the. The year they traded Seguin was the same year that Horton left via UFA. So if PC &amp; Cam traded Seguin in hopes of getting Horton to stay, they are ******* stupid. If Horton agrees to come back if Seguin isn't there, then OK you have a foundation. These two idiots traded Seguin and then Horton gave them the middle finger and left for Columbus.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2017 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread: cam neely rebuild
A lot of people have covered what I would say, but some things I didn't see are:

Beleskey on line 4 instead of Vatrano. Vatrano is average or below in every aspect of Hockey except his Shot and his Speed. Those qualities are not something to put on a traditional 4th line, which I believe we will be using.

Swzarz is a career AHLer. The last career AHLer we gave a break to was a fellow named Bobby Robbins. I have zero respect for the Bruins decision to play Robbins and the ass spanking we received from Washington in 2014 October 11th, in a 4-0 loss in which the momentum started by Robbins "kneeing" the opponent and then getting into a fight, is exactly what we deserved. We just got smoked after they scored on the very PP he was serving and we basically got manhandled the rest of the game after that joke of a player brought cheap shots into the game. You do recall that we missed the playoffs by 2 points that year. If we didn't totally get our **** pushed in by Washington that game, we would have went into that final game against TB knowing if we won we'd be in. A lot less pressure than we were in. Pittsburg won their game and we only tied ours, we ended 2 points back in the points column, but had we won that game we surrendered and won our less game with the pressure off, we would have finished one point better than Pittsburg and in the playoffs.

I know Szwarz might be a different kind of player than Robbins, but he's had 35 NHL games and produced 5 Points. To me that sounds like a guy who's going to be put into an "energy line role" As you have him, and I don't think he's got practice at it, given he scored 54 points in 65 games. That seems like someone who's an AHL scorer, who's a serious risk to bring to the NHL for a checking line role. I'm not confident he knows how to straddle the line without going over it and we can't afford to give games away because of a 4th liner. No Bobby Robbins', No Zac Rinaldo's, No Career AHLers who don't even play in a 4th line role there. IF HE HAS TO COME UP HE SHOULD PLAY IN THE TOP 9. You don't put someone who's not comfortable in their role out on the ice, that's practically the easiest way to lose a game before you even take the ice.

Sorry if I'm piling on, but I still go ape **** about Bobby ******* Robbins in 2014 throwing away a game and then us missing the playoffs by 2 points. I doubt anyone else remembers it, but I can never forget it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2017 at 11:40 a.m.
Thread: cam neely rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulDunnill</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>

He doesn't do a ******* thing expect help destroy the team. He's JJ's ***** and mouth piece, well until he fucks that up and JJ has to have his son do it and when he can't handle it JJ steps in. I'll never forgive Neely for being the guy driving the bus of the Seguin trade.

As for this mock...Pasta and Paul covered.</div></div>

C'mon ON3M4N that's a little harsh. Seguin has/had an attitude issue!!! I know about it first hand!!! In the playoffs when they played here in Toronto, he was out partying with old friends from Barmpton! How do you party when you're in the playoffs??? Lack of discipline, and Neely won't put up with that ****.</div></div>

I put that on leadership upstairs and in the dressing room. He was a 21yr old kid and 30 miles from his hometown. Where was Chara and Bergy and Krejci and Jagr? Where were these guys that were supposed to be mentoring Seguin? The whole Seguin situation was a debacle that I pin partially on Seguin, but mostly on Boston leadership for not reeling the kid in. Here are a few direct quotes from Cam after Seguin returned to Boston to light us up for a hat-trick....

"I think looking back, <strong>we probably could have done some things differently with Tyler</strong>. You’ve got a young kid coming in, maybe we could have handled his living arrangements a little different and stuff like that, that we’ve talked about over the years. It’s something we certainly are addressing currently, and in the future we will continue to address."

"It’s more about really, we talk about drafting and developing. And the <strong>development piece really is a big part of it</strong>. You have to really work with these players and develop them in the professionals, and <strong>that’s an area where we we’ve really improved in the last year or so</strong>,"

Again I put this on leadership as to why the **** with Seguin happened. The sad part is, at 21yr old he still had the opportunity to be molded and mature as a player. Instead Neely and Co. didn't want to deal with it and traded him. What's left from the Seguin deal....Absolutely nothing. Four years after trading what was a franchise players we have NOTHING to show for it...

<strong>Eriksson</strong> - left via UFA
<strong>Morrow</strong> - Non Tendered RFA
<strong>Fraser</strong> - No longer in the NHL
<strong>Smith</strong> - Traded for Hayes

So actually I take that back, we do still have something to show for the Seguin trade....we have about $1.4 million over the next two years in wasted cap space on a guy that is no longer on the team. I still stand by my analysis of what Cam does. Love him for what he did while playing for us, but he's ******* useless in a management role.