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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
Thread: Cap Space with Hyman and Barrie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>What?? That's the most ignorant statement I've read all week. Here's some education for you:

<em>Barrie's "offensive production" is a mirage. Check out McDavid's on-ice numbers (5v5) from this past season.

McDavid with Barrie: 4.09 GF/60 – 3.34 GA/60 = +0.75 GD/60
McDavid w/o Barrie: 4.10 GF/60 – 2.68 GA/60 = +1.42 GD/60

Barrie doesn’t improve McDavid’s output while dragging him down defensively.

McDavid with Bear: 4.38 GF/60 – 3.03 GA/60 = +1.35 GD/60
McDavid w/o Bear: 4.03 GF/60 – 3.08 GA/60 = +0.95 GD/60

McDavid does better with Bear offensively and is about the same defensively. Maybe that was just luck though – lets check xG to see.

McDavid with Barrie: 2.71 xGF/60 – 2.60 xGA/60 = +0.11 xGD/60
McDavid w/o Barrie: 3.38 xGF/60 – 1.83 xGA/60 = +1.55 xGD/60

McDavid with Bear: 4.12 xGF/60 – 1.67 xGA/60 = +2.45 xGD/60
McDavid w/o Bear: 2.71 xGF/60 – 2.43 xGA/60 = +0.28 xGD/60

Nope, luck actually ran against Bear this year - despite this McDavid still posted better offensive AND better defensive numbers with Bear than with Barrie.</em>

Here's Nurse-Barrie compared to Nurse-Bear: <a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/pairings.php?fromseason=20202021&amp;thruseason=20202021&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=y&amp;team=EDM&amp;loc=B&amp;toi=255&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=&amp;td=&amp;tgp=410" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">NST link</a>
Their GF% mirrors their O-zone faceoff% pretty well, and luck played a part (PDO), but the Nurse-Bear pairing had better underlying numbers in EVERY category despite Barrie having a 'career' year and Bear having a 'down' year. Oh, and keep in mind that the Nurse-Bear pairing played with McDavid 48.8% of the time while the Nurse-Barrie pairing played with McDavid 65.8% of the time.

Fact: signing Barrie and trading Bear makes this team worse. You can't argue for "adding a bigger body" and support the Barrie signing at the same time.</div></div>

Do all your spread sheets you want. Did Barrie give up the muffin that cost us the series?! Lol
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
Thread: Cap Space with Hyman and Barrie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>What?? That's the most ignorant statement I've read all week. Here's some education for you:

<em>Barrie's "offensive production" is a mirage. Check out McDavid's on-ice numbers (5v5) from this past season.

McDavid with Barrie: 4.09 GF/60 – 3.34 GA/60 = +0.75 GD/60
McDavid w/o Barrie: 4.10 GF/60 – 2.68 GA/60 = +1.42 GD/60

Barrie doesn’t improve McDavid’s output while dragging him down defensively.

McDavid with Bear: 4.38 GF/60 – 3.03 GA/60 = +1.35 GD/60
McDavid w/o Bear: 4.03 GF/60 – 3.08 GA/60 = +0.95 GD/60

McDavid does better with Bear offensively and is about the same defensively. Maybe that was just luck though – lets check xG to see.

McDavid with Barrie: 2.71 xGF/60 – 2.60 xGA/60 = +0.11 xGD/60
McDavid w/o Barrie: 3.38 xGF/60 – 1.83 xGA/60 = +1.55 xGD/60

McDavid with Bear: 4.12 xGF/60 – 1.67 xGA/60 = +2.45 xGD/60
McDavid w/o Bear: 2.71 xGF/60 – 2.43 xGA/60 = +0.28 xGD/60

Nope, luck actually ran against Bear this year - despite this McDavid still posted better offensive AND better defensive numbers with Bear than with Barrie.</em>

Here's Nurse-Barrie compared to Nurse-Bear: <a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/pairings.php?fromseason=20202021&amp;thruseason=20202021&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=y&amp;team=EDM&amp;loc=B&amp;toi=255&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=&amp;td=&amp;tgp=410" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">NST link</a>
Their GF% mirrors their O-zone faceoff% pretty well, and luck played a part (PDO), but the Nurse-Bear pairing had better underlying numbers in EVERY category despite Barrie having a 'career' year and Bear having a 'down' year. Oh, and keep in mind that the Nurse-Bear pairing played with McDavid 48.8% of the time while the Nurse-Barrie pairing played with McDavid 65.8% of the time.

Fact: signing Barrie and trading Bear makes this team worse. You can't argue for "adding a bigger body" and support the Barrie signing at the same time.</div></div>

I can. BC bear and Barrie are the same size. LoL. Barrie better skater . So you wanna keep those 2 with a rookie on your right side???!? No thanks!! Bye bear!!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
Thread: Cap Space with Hyman and Barrie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Puljujarvi was coming off a holdout year in a 2nd tier league after having hip surgery. He was no sure thing to make it as a top-9 NHLer. Yamamoto has scored 79, 19-28-47 +26 in the past 1.5 seasons, and very little of that came from the powerplay. In fact, his 38 points at 5v5 have him ranked 50th among all forwards, tied with Malkin, Wheeler, Giroux, Palat, Fiala and Svechnikov, among others. There's no way to argue that's worth just $1.175M on a 2-year deal.</div></div>

Only time will tell. But I don't see 2 million. Maybe it's just me. But BC the DRY line had incredible numbers for 27 games. Really bumped his numbers. He was pretty non existent most of last season. He struggled this year. Also trading bear isn't a bad move if he's filled with a bigger body who can defend. BC Bouchard will outperform him shortly. .. he doesn't have the size as Petry did. So I don't see it becoming another Petry deal of being a shutdown guy. Barrie smashes bear in every offensive category. Best way to defend.. is be in the offensive zone. LoL
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.
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