Blues TDL Discussion

Created by: tstrauss16

Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2024

Published: Feb. 24, 2024

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Following this loss, we are 30-25-2 and tied for the final wild card spot. We have 6 games left until March 8th.

At what point do we decide to sell at the deadline? If we go .500 over the next 6 games, we would be 33-28-2 and probably on the outside looking in.

For the purpose of the breakdown below, the following are notes to explain what each category represents.
- Future Core: players I expect to be a part of our next contention window. These include our Top 9 F, Top 4 D, and starting goalie.
- Future Depth: players that could potentially fit into the lineup one way or another.
- Trade Candidate: players that could be used as pieces in trades for the foreseeable future.
- Contract Expiration: players that will stay with the Blues until the end of their deal and not be extended.

For S's and G's, I put Brady Tkachuk in there, I genuinely can envision the Blues signing him as a free agent in 2028.

As for the trade candidates, this is what I’m thinking:
Buchnevich - 2024 TDL, 2024 Offseason, or 2025 TDL
- Hoping to get a solid prospect and a 1st round pick
Saad - 2025 TDL or 2025 offseason
- M-NTC beginning 2025-26
- Hockey trade for another player or a 2nd/3rd pick
Hayes - 2024 TDL, 2024 offseason, or 2025 TDL
- Should get a 2nd/3rd depending on retention by STL
Leddy - 2025 TDL or 2025 offseason
- M-NTC beginning 2025-26
- Should fetch maybe a 3rd but probably a 4th
Faulk - 2024 offseason, 2025 TDL, or 2025 offseason
- M-NTC beginning 2025-26
- Should fetch a 3rd round pick and a B-level prospect

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kaskimäki, Aleksanteri	3	$950,000
Lindstein, Theo	3	$950,000
Pekarcik, Juraj	3	$950,000
Peterson, Dylan	3	$950,000
Robertsson, Simon	3	$950,000
Snuggerud, Jimmy	3	$950,000
Stancl, Jakub	3	$950,000
Stenberg, Otto	3	$950,000
Susuyev, Nikita	3	$950,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Core	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Future, Depth	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000
--------, --------	1	$1,000,000

Trades

STL

Tkachuk, Brady

OTT

Again, not trading for Tkachuk here but signing him as a free agent in the 2028 offseason.

Buried

Jakub Vrána: $1,475,000 ($2,625,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
77	$83,500,000	$142,485,059	$20,000	$1,235,000	-$58,985,059

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Thomas, Robert $8,125,000$8,125,000 C, RW UFA - 8	Snuggerud, Jimmy $950,000$950,000 RW, C RFA
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dvorsky, Dalibor $950,000$950,000 ($550,000$550K) C RFA - 3	Kyrou, Jordan $8,125,000$8,125,000 RW UFA - 8
Bolduc, Zachary $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LW RFA - 3	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	Stenberg, Otto $950,000$950,000 C RFA
Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000
Toropchenko, Alexey $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dean, Zach $852,500$852,500 ($32,500$32K) C RFA - 3	Robertsson, Simon $950,000$950,000 RW RFA
Pekarcik, Juraj $950,000$950,000 LW RFA	Kaskimäki, Aleksanteri $950,000$950,000 C RFA	Peterson, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C RFA
Stancl, Jakub $950,000$950,000 LW RFA	Alexandrov, Nikita $816,667$816,667 C RFA - 1	Susuyev, Nikita $950,000$950,000 RW RFA
Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000	Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000	Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,800,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C M-NTC UFA - 3	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Saad, Brandon $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000	Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000	Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000
Blais, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 1
Walker, Nathan $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 1		Sundqvist, Oskar $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Core $1,000,000$1,000,000
Lindstein, Theo $950,000$950,000 LD RFA	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 7	Hofer, Joel $775,000$775,000 G RFA - 2
--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000	Future, Depth $1,000,000$1,000,000
Perunovich, Scott $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 1	Kessel, Matthew $883,750$883,750 RD RFA - 1	Zherenko, Vadim $846,667$846,667 G RFA - 2
Buchinger, Michael $870,000$870,000 ($80,000$80K) LD RFA - 3	Skinner, Hunter $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) RD RFA - 1	Ellis, Colten $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) G RFA - 1
Tucker, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Lööf, Leo $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 3	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000	Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000	Trade, Candidate $1,000,000$1,000,000
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 4	--------, -------- $1,000,000$1,000,000
Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000	Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000	Contract, Expiration $1,000,000$1,000,000
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC UFA - 4		Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 4
Scandella, Marco $3,275,000$3,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

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CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (41)
Right Wing: Core Future ($1,000,000) - Jimmy Snuggerud ($950,000) - Jordan Kyrou ($8,125,000) - Otto Stenberg ($950,000) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Simon Robertsson ($950,000) - Dylan Peterson ($950,000) - Nikita Susuyev ($950,000) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000) - Kasperi Kapanen ($3,200,000) - Oskar Sundqvist ($775,000)
Centre: Core Future ($1,000,000) - Robert Thomas ($8,125,000) - Dalibor Dvorsky ($950,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Zach Dean ($852,500) - Aleksanteri Kaskimäki ($950,000) - Nikita Alexandrov ($816,667) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - Kevin Hayes ($3,571,429) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000) - Brayden Schenn ($6,500,000)
Left Wing: Core Future ($1,000,000) - Brady Tkachuk ($8,205,714) - Jake Neighbours ($835,833) - Zachary Bolduc ($863,333) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Alexey Toropchenko ($1,250,000) - Juraj Pekarcik ($950,000) - Jakub Stancl ($950,000) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - Pavel Buchnevich ($5,800,000) - Brandon Saad ($4,500,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000) - Samuel Blais ($1,000,000) - Nathan Walker ($775,000)

DEFENSE (24)
Right: Core Future ($1,000,000) - Colton Parayko ($6,500,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Matthew Kessel ($883,750) - Hunter Skinner ($850,833) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - Justin Faulk ($6,500,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000)
Left: Core Future ($1,000,000) - Theo Lindstein ($950,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Scott Perunovich ($775,000) - Michael Buchinger ($870,000) - Tyler Tucker ($800,000) - Leo Lööf ($867,500) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - Nick Leddy ($4,000,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000) - Torey Krug ($6,500,000) - Marco Scandella ($3,275,000)

GOALTENDER (12)
Core Future ($1,000,000) - Joel Hofer ($775,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Depth Future ($1,000,000) - Vadim Zherenko ($846,667) - Colten Ellis ($850,833) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Candidate Trade ($1,000,000) - -------- -------- ($1,000,000) - Expiration Contract ($1,000,000) - Jordan Binnington ($6,000,000)

BURIED (1)
Jakub Vrána ($1,475,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 77
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Bonus Overages: $20,000
Cap Hit: $142,485,059
Cap Space: -$58,985,059

Top Comments

Feb. 24 at 6:33 p.m.

AC14

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By most accounts the decision to sell was made at last deadline for this season as well and probably next. Almost positive we wont be buying. Maybe something similar to like Kapanen off waivers, or Hayes at 50%, some sort of bargain bin deal on a player who hasn't worked out where they're at at a very cheap price.

What it does though with us at least being in the playoff conversation is it make Doug alot more likely to hold which is fine. In all reality for us it's probably better. I dont see it as a situation where he wont sell a guy like Buch, but he's also not going to take something he doesn't love.

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Feb. 24 at 7:02 p.m.

tstrauss16

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Quoting: AC14

I think Buch is the guy I’d wanna trade purely for the value we’d get back. He’s the only trading piece where I think the future benefits outweigh keeping him.

Feb. 24 at 7:23 p.m.

AC14

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Quoting: tstrauss16

I think Buch is the guy I’d wanna trade purely for the value we’d get back. He’s the only trading piece where I think the future benefits outweigh keeping him.

I agree, but unless the difference is massive between the normal TDL package for a first liner as a rental vs now, there's no reason to jump unless you love something that's being offered. Fair value isn't an option when fair value isn't fair because it's not accounting for having Buch for 2 seasons at an extremely good cap hit. If nobody wants to pay it fine, wait til next season. At least we don't run the risk of our entire group getting fractured by the loss midseason

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Feb. 24 at 8:51 p.m.

tstrauss16

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Quoting: AC14

Yeah that’s a great point. If no one wants to pay the price now, no reason to trade for the sake of trading when we could sell him next TDL and still get probably a 1st and a decent prospect

Feb. 25 at 7:57 a.m.

Matak95

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Nice. We will see what player we’ll take with 1st round pick this year.

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