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MTL quick and dirty team CLB,EDM,BUF,NYI

Created by: captain_roy
Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2018
Published: Jan. 16, 2018
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Just some dumb trade ideas I had, based on players who are known to be available. And what other teams known needs are.
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Alzner, Karl
Additional Details:
CLB wants an actual defender back for JJ, and I just don't like Alzner, and don't want to have to watch him. I would probably re-sign JJ as long as it's no more than 3 years, and around 3.5 mil.
2.
BUF
  1. Carr, Daniel
  2. Pacioretty, Max
  3. Shaw, Andrew
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
If Patches does not re-sign BUF gets a 2nd
3.
NYI
  1. Benn, Jordie
  2. Lindgren, Charlie
  3. 2018 5th round pick (EDM)
4.
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2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$56,952,618$0$395,000$18,047,382

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 6
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, C
UFA - 2
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$912,500$912,500
C
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,500,000$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,357,143$4,357,143
LD
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 16, 2018 at 7:29 p.m.
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Not sure why you overate the **** out of our players but whatever floats ur boat.
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Jan. 16, 2018 at 7:31 p.m.
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Jack Johnson will want top 4 minutes so you put him on the bottom pairing, If there's any chance of Johnson being put on the bottom pairing he wont be a Hab for long.
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Jan. 16, 2018 at 7:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Kai_murray
Not sure why you overate the **** out of our players but whatever floats ur boat.


its called the trade dealine , value inflates on all players of all 31 teams 100% of the time .
feel free to ask anymore basic questions and i'm sure someone will be willing to help
Jan. 16, 2018 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Larkinisking
Jack Johnson will want top 4 minutes so you put him on the bottom pairing, If there's any chance of Johnson being put on the bottom pairing he wont be a Hab for long.


honestly if he moved Mete for Strome instead of Jerabek
he'd get much better D pairings

JJ-Weber
Mccabe-Petry
Jerabek-Shclemko
Morrow
Jan. 16, 2018 at 7:34 p.m.
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Sabres say no. Pacioretty declining and will demand too much money. Sabres arent trading ROR for a 2nd round pick and Shaw, let alone you throwing McCabe in that deal as well. ROR is part of their core, you'll have to over pay for him. The Sabres are open for buisness, doesn't mean theyre having a clearance sale.
Jan. 16, 2018 at 9:09 p.m.
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Sabres say no. Pacioretty declining and will demand too much money. Sabres arent trading ROR for a 2nd round pick and Shaw, let alone you throwing McCabe in that deal as well. ROR is part of their core, you'll have to over pay for him. The Sabres are open for buisness, doesn't mean theyre having a clearance sale.


if ROR contracts wasnt such garbage with most of it in signing bonus paid out play or no play
it decreases his value same way Prices is fucked because 70% of his deal is bonuss paid even if he ends up like Dipietro
Jan. 16, 2018 at 9:10 p.m.
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Sabres say no. Pacioretty declining and will demand too much money. Sabres arent trading ROR for a 2nd round pick and Shaw, let alone you throwing McCabe in that deal as well. ROR is part of their core, you'll have to over pay for him. The Sabres are open for buisness, doesn't mean theyre having a clearance sale.


also patches heats up jan-mar every year check his career splits he has never had more then 15 goals before jan
but always hit 30 goals and the only player i know with as many assist as goals and no credit for his work moving the puck
Jan. 16, 2018 at 9:33 p.m.
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also patches heats up jan-mar every year check his career splits he has never had more then 15 goals before jan
but always hit 30 goals and the only player i know with as many assist as goals and no credit for his work moving the puck


no non contending team is going to use assets to pay for patches when he's going to be a FA in a year. ROR's contract doesnt drop him to a role player and a 2nd round pick just like montreal isnt flipping Price for bonino and a 2nd. If you dont like his contract dont trade for it. Sabres arent selling him. If the Sabres are offered something that makes the team better theyll take it, thats what they mean by open for buisness. A soon to be 31 year old whos going to demand max term and at least 8 mill is not it.
Jan. 16, 2018 at 10:46 p.m.
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no non contending team is going to use assets to pay for patches when he's going to be a FA in a year. ROR's contract doesnt drop him to a role player and a 2nd round pick just like montreal isnt flipping Price for bonino and a 2nd. If you dont like his contract dont trade for it. Sabres arent selling him. If the Sabres are offered something that makes the team better theyll take it, thats what they mean by open for buisness. A soon to be 31 year old whos going to demand max term and at least 8 mill is not it.


he is 29 but ofcourse those are facts which have no merit in your world of opinion right É
again he isnt going down hill just people to simple to look at his scoring pace historically are doing
what habs fans stopped doing after 2012 when we noticed the trend .
Jan. 16, 2018 at 10:59 p.m.
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no non contending team is going to use assets to pay for patches when he's going to be a FA in a year. ROR's contract doesnt drop him to a role player and a 2nd round pick just like montreal isnt flipping Price for bonino and a 2nd. If you dont like his contract dont trade for it. Sabres arent selling him. If the Sabres are offered something that makes the team better theyll take it, thats what they mean by open for buisness. A soon to be 31 year old whos going to demand max term and at least 8 mill is not it.


regardless we can do better then Oreilly to be honest .
he isnt what he was before going to BUF , all that losing hurt his game

i would target Tavares first then if that falls thru maybe id go to Oreilly but
TBH he has only every played on teams that are bottom of the league to the effect
Lehkonen our struggling sophomore has as many playoff points as Oreilly (but unlike oreilly was almost a point per game on a losing team )
Jan. 16, 2018 at 11:08 p.m.
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he is 29 but ofcourse those are facts which have no merit in your world of opinion right É
again he isnt going down hill just people to simple to look at his scoring pace historically are doing
what habs fans stopped doing after 2012 when we noticed the trend .


He is 29, but he'll be 30 the year his contract expires and turning 31, 3 months after he signs his next contract. Therefore he is a soon to be 31 year old whos going to demand max term and at least 8 mill
Jan. 16, 2018 at 11:14 p.m.
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regardless we can do better then Oreilly to be honest .
he isnt what he was before going to BUF , all that losing hurt his game

i would target Tavares first then if that falls thru maybe id go to Oreilly but
TBH he has only every played on teams that are bottom of the league to the effect
Lehkonen our struggling sophomore has as many playoff points as Oreilly (but unlike oreilly was almost a point per game on a losing team )


O'Reilly is on pace to equal his average scoring production, in a season where he's admitted he hasn't played well and no one on the team has. He and Eichel are quietly having good seasons with all this Kane trade talk and negativity clouding the team. Montreal has nothing to offer Tavares that other teams cant match, nor does Montreal have any assets to offer other teams to acquire a ROR quality center. You're not going to enjoy the next few seasons
Jan. 16, 2018 at 11:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He is 29, but he'll be 30 the year his contract expires and turning 31, 3 months after he signs his next contract. Therefore he is a soon to be 31 year old whos going to demand max term and at least 8 mill


MTL has Cap and tons of it to offer Tavares unlike most teams MTL is where your name will still be talked about 25 years later if you get the cup
Ask Coach Muller . the chance to be immortal is what guys like JT live for , to make their mark on hockey and the truth is 10 years ago if you said LA BOS and CHI would own 80% of the cups this decade people would call you a liar because their teams were garbage for a long time .

with MTL CJ will move out the patches and plekkys and promote the youth
he has already started giving youth a lot of responsibility and with Jake Evans able to come up
in March after his 4th year is done we got to many wingers being held down to keep playing centers on wing
like Chucky and Hudon and let them learn and win games by commitee

i mean BUF is one of the only teams to never successfully rebuild despite drafting high a lot so i get you think its possible for a team to never win a cup
but its rare unless you are an ARZ or a VAN for that to happen
Jan. 17, 2018 at 12:20 a.m.
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MTL has Cap and tons of it to offer Tavares unlike most teams MTL is where your name will still be talked about 25 years later if you get the cup
Ask Coach Muller . the chance to be immortal is what guys like JT live for , to make their mark on hockey and the truth is 10 years ago if you said LA BOS and CHI would own 80% of the cups this decade people would call you a liar because their teams were garbage for a long time .

with MTL CJ will move out the patches and plekkys and promote the youth
he has already started giving youth a lot of responsibility and with Jake Evans able to come up
in March after his 4th year is done we got to many wingers being held down to keep playing centers on wing
like Chucky and Hudon and let them learn and win games by commitee

i mean BUF is one of the only teams to never successfully rebuild despite drafting high a lot so i get you think its possible for a team to never win a cup
but its rare unless you are an ARZ or a VAN for that to happen


Literally half or more of the teams in the league will be able to offer Tavares 12 mill, including: Toronto, Winnipeg, Vegas, San Jose, Calgary, etc. MTL isnt the only place he can become "immortal". If he brought a cup to Toronto, or Calgary, or Winnipeg just a few seasons removed from returning to the league, or Buffalo where his family name is already immortalized by his uncle, the latter 2 with half as much pressure from media and fans as the Montreal's or Toronto's of the league. A majority of these teams have a much greater prospect pool than Montreal has. You want to talk about the Sabres rebuild? The Sabres haven't even finished it yet and you want to call it a failure? This team was torn to the frame just 4 seasons ago, and the majority of draft picks from the GMTM era havent had a chance to mature into NHL players yet. Tim Murray set the Sabres up well with some great steals in the draft, and really only sattled them with one bad contract in Okposo, as it looks right now. They arent Edmonton, going on a decade of 1st overall picks and lucking into Connor McDavid, who still isnt enough to carry that team. What does Montreal have to look forward too, Juulson, Mete, Scherbak, and Hudon?
Jan. 17, 2018 at 12:23 a.m.
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Literally half or more of the teams in the league will be able to offer Tavares 12 mill, including: Toronto, Winnipeg, Vegas, San Jose, Calgary, etc. MTL isnt the only place he can become "immortal". If he brought a cup to Toronto, or Calgary, or Winnipeg just a few seasons removed from returning to the league, or Buffalo where his family name is already immortalized by his uncle, the latter 2 with half as much pressure from media and fans as the Montreal's or Toronto's of the league. A majority of these teams have a much greater prospect pool than Montreal has. You want to talk about the Sabres rebuild, the Sabres haven't even finished it yet and you want to call it a failure? This team was torn to the frame just 4 seasons ago, and the majority of draft picks from the GMTM era havent had a chance to mature into NHL players yet. Tim Murray set the Sabres up well with some great steals in the draft, and really only sattled them with one bad contract in Okposo, as it looks right now. They arent Edmonton going on a decade of 1st overall picks and lucking into Connor McDavid who still isnt enough to carry that team. What does Montreal have to look forward too, Juulson, Mete, Sherbak, and Hudon?


they literally did a break down saturday night in the 2nd intermission about how this is out right not true that only 3 -4 teams even have the cap without choosing not to re-sign or match offers on a Jake Guetzal for instance you are just out right assuming to much to make this leap
Jan. 17, 2018 at 12:35 a.m.
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Literally half or more of the teams in the league will be able to offer Tavares 12 mill, including: Toronto, Winnipeg, Vegas, San Jose, Calgary, etc. MTL isnt the only place he can become "immortal". If he brought a cup to Toronto, or Calgary, or Winnipeg just a few seasons removed from returning to the league, or Buffalo where his family name is already immortalized by his uncle, the latter 2 with half as much pressure from media and fans as the Montreal's or Toronto's of the league. A majority of these teams have a much greater prospect pool than Montreal has. You want to talk about the Sabres rebuild? The Sabres haven't even finished it yet and you want to call it a failure? This team was torn to the frame just 4 seasons ago, and the majority of draft picks from the GMTM era havent had a chance to mature into NHL players yet. Tim Murray set the Sabres up well with some great steals in the draft, and really only sattled them with one bad contract in Okposo, as it looks right now. They arent Edmonton, going on a decade of 1st overall picks and lucking into Connor McDavid, who still isnt enough to carry that team. What does Montreal have to look forward too, Juulson, Mete, Sherbak, and Hudon?


MTL has a top 5 pick to look forward to and whether its Dahlin ,Tkchuck ,Zadina , Svechnikov or Dobson it will instantly help us .

MTL has the Hobey Baker Favorite this year Jake Evans (hobey winners include Butcher,Vesey,Gaudreau and Eichel)

MTL has 2 time NCAA Goalie of the year Lindgren with better NHL numbers then everyone in your system
MTL has Nikita Scherbak tearing the AHL up held down because of overcrowding on wing at NHL


MTL has Will Bitten
MTL has Cale Fleury
MTL has Mike Pezetta
(all of which are tearing it up)

MTL has multiple players doing good

http://www.eliteprospects.com/in_the_system.php?team=64
Jan. 17, 2018 at 12:41 a.m.
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they literally did a break down saturday night in the 2nd intermission about how this is out right not true that only 3 -4 teams even have the cap without choosing not to re-sign or match offers on a Jake Guetzal for instance you are just out right assuming to much to make this leap


I didnt see this breakdown, so i cant debate its points (i'm sure it wasn't filled with montreal pretentiousness) but I'm sure teams will make compromises, unforseen by this panel, to land Tavares if they think they have a shot. I also never said anything about Pittsburgh
Jan. 17, 2018 at 12:58 a.m.
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MTL has a top 5 pick to look forward to and whether its Dahlin ,Tkchuck ,Zadina , Svechnikov or Dobson it will instantly help us .

MTL has the Hobey Baker Favorite this year Jake Evans (hobey winners include Butcher,Vesey,Gaudreau and Eichel)

MTL has 2 time NCAA Goalie of the year Lindgren with better NHL numbers then everyone in your system
MTL has Nikita Scherbak tearing the AHL up held down because of overcrowding on wing at NHL


MTL has Will Bitten
MTL has Cale Fleury
MTL has Mike Pezetta
(all of which are tearing it up)

MTL has multiple players doing good

http://www.eliteprospects.com/in_the_system.php?team=64


MTL has a top 5 pick to look forward: Maybe, Sabres had the #1 pick 2 years in a row, oh wait nope Lottery. Mtl could just as easily end up at 8

hobey winners include Butcher,Vesey,Gaudreau and Eichel: Hobey Baker winners also include Drew LeBlanc, Jack Connolly, Andy Miele, Blake Geoffrion, Matt Gilroy

MTL has 2 time NCAA Goalie of the year Lindgren with better NHL numbers then everyone in your system: He's played 11 games, Ullmark in 20 had a 2.60 GAA with a .913 Sv% on a team that was literally stripped for Eichel the year prior, and has a 2.55 GAA .918 % in 22 NHL games, while posting 2.28 GAA .928% in 28 games in the AHL (Lindgren is 3.06 GAA .898% in 22 games in the A)
Nikita Scherbak tearing the AHL up: Nikita Scherbak has 6 goals in AHL this season, mind you he missed time, but thats hardly tearing it up. Dylan Strome is tearing it up.

Will Bitten, Cale Fleury, Mike Pezetta do look good, but have yet to play a pro game.
Jan. 17, 2018 at 1:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I didnt see this breakdown, so i cant debate its points (i'm sure it wasn't filled with montreal pretentiousness) but I'm sure teams will make compromises, unforseen by this panel, to land Tavares if they think they have a shot. I also never said anything about Pittsburgh


pretentious is a word
pretentiousness is not wink
(was that subtle enough for ya)

i support hockey at all levels and dont just follow fantasy draft so forgive
me if i find your comments naive
Jan. 17, 2018 at 1:01 a.m.
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MTL has a top 5 pick to look forward: Maybe, Sabres had the #1 pick 2 years in a row, oh wait nope Lottery. Mtl could just as easily end up at 8

hobey winners include Butcher,Vesey,Gaudreau and Eichel: Hobey Baker winners also include Drew LeBlanc, Jack Connolly, Andy Miele, Blake Geoffrion, Matt Gilroy

MTL has 2 time NCAA Goalie of the year Lindgren with better NHL numbers then everyone in your system: He's played 11 games, Ullmark in 20 had a 2.60 GAA with a .913 Sv% on a team that was literally stripped for Eichel the year prior, and has a 2.55 GAA .918 % in 22 NHL games, while posting 2.28 GAA .928% in 28 games in the AHL (Lindgren is 3.06 GAA .898% in 22 games in the A)
Nikita Scherbak tearing the AHL up: Nikita Scherbak has 6 goals in AHL this season, mind you he missed time, but thats hardly tearing it up. Dylan Strome is tearing it up.

Will Bitten, Cale Fleury, Mike Pezetta do look good, but have yet to play a pro game.


no **** which is why the 8th projected pick Noah Dobson is named last among those players from 1st-8th pick SMH

hahahaha '' yeah but his AHL numbers are still worse'' omg
Jan. 17, 2018 at 1:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
MTL has a top 5 pick to look forward: Maybe, Sabres had the #1 pick 2 years in a row, oh wait nope Lottery. Mtl could just as easily end up at 8

hobey winners include Butcher,Vesey,Gaudreau and Eichel: Hobey Baker winners also include Drew LeBlanc, Jack Connolly, Andy Miele, Blake Geoffrion, Matt Gilroy

MTL has 2 time NCAA Goalie of the year Lindgren with better NHL numbers then everyone in your system: He's played 11 games, Ullmark in 20 had a 2.60 GAA with a .913 Sv% on a team that was literally stripped for Eichel the year prior, and has a 2.55 GAA .918 % in 22 NHL games, while posting 2.28 GAA .928% in 28 games in the AHL (Lindgren is 3.06 GAA .898% in 22 games in the A)
Nikita Scherbak tearing the AHL up: Nikita Scherbak has 6 goals in AHL this season, mind you he missed time, but thats hardly tearing it up. Dylan Strome is tearing it up.

Will Bitten, Cale Fleury, Mike Pezetta do look good, but have yet to play a pro game.


also goals arent the only thing teams need , how you tried to ignore Scheberak is well over a point per game
and playing solid hockey after his injury helping launch Christ Terry to the AHL's #1 scorer

you just tried to undercut a talent because you dont like me and that is where you and i differ
Jan. 17, 2018 at 1:32 a.m.
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also goals arent the only thing teams need , how you tried to ignore Scheberak is well over a point per game
and playing solid hockey after his injury helping launch Christ Terry to the AHL's #1 scorer

you just tried to undercut a talent because you dont like me and that is where you and i differ


I didnt say I dont like you, if I hated you i wouldnt be discussing hockey with you lol. Im just way more hesitant to say a player is tearing it up. While I cited Dylan Strome as someone who i would definitively say is tearing it up
 
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