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Green’s inevitable return to DC

Created by: BrianMacLeonsis
Team: 2017-18 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 29, 2018
Published: Jan. 29, 2018
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Caps will have about 1.9 million in cap space at the deadline to add someone. We will need Detroit to eat celery but...
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WSH
  1. Green, Mike ($3,000,000 retained)
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The money works come deadline time
DET
  1. Barber, Riley
  2. Gustafsson, Hampus
  3. 2019 1st round pick (WSH)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$68,911,773$4,978$582,500$6,088,227
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
UFA - 8
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW
UFA - 2
$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$660,000$660,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
UFA - 6
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
$3,966,667$3,966,667
RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
$703,333$703,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 29, 2018 at 12:36 p.m.
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No, please...no......he would NOT be so statistically decent with zero PP mins and deployments stuck behind Nisky and Carlson. He would be a super expensive, lazy a$$, at 12 mins a night and a few costly mistakes. And all that for prospects and a 1st...NO...

PLEASE NO!
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Jan. 29, 2018 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: netminder71
No, please...no......he would NOT be so statistically decent with zero PP mins and deployments stuck behind Nisky and Carlson. He would be a super expensive, lazy a$$, at 12 mins a night and a few costly mistakes. And all that for prospects and a 1st...NO...

PLEASE NO!


Honestly I think he would be solid
Jan. 29, 2018 at 12:48 p.m.
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I love the idea of sliding Bowey to the press box for the post-season. But not 100% Mike Green is the guy...he would cost a LOT and bring little (and zero long-term possibility) UNLESS they plan to cheap re-sign Green for a year or two and trade Carlson...
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Jan. 29, 2018 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: netminder71
I love the idea of sliding Bowey to the press box for the post-season. But not 100% Mike Green is the guy...he would cost a LOT and bring little (and zero long-term possibility) UNLESS they plan to cheap re-sign Green for a year or two and trade Carlson...


I wanna get EK. I’d even trade Niskanen for EK
Jan. 29, 2018 at 12:59 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: netminder71
I love the idea of sliding Bowey to the press box for the post-season. But not 100% Mike Green is the guy...he would cost a LOT and bring little (and zero long-term possibility) UNLESS they plan to cheap re-sign Green for a year or two and trade Carlson...


If that's their plan, they'd better get cracking before the deadline, to have enough time for a serious bidding war on Carlson, which should bring back a higher first and slightly better prospects,but... then you've got Green instead of Carlson, and you still need to trade for a veteran bottom pairing defenseman or two before the playoffs.

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Honestly I think he would be solid
Do you respond to all criticism just by restating your original position, or saying your mind is unchanged? Philosophers believe that the point of a conversation is to share information, learn from each other, and arrive together at a deeper truth.

Go back and watch Mike Green trying to cover Sidney Crosby in the playoffs, and then look at the numbers of hits and takeaways Green and Carlson come up with, and their power play percentages int heir last two years together with the Caps. Carlson is an upgrade at each end of the rink. Now, maybe he's not willing to re-sign, in that case, if Green is willing to stick around long term at 5M, sure, bring him back, but don't go overpaying. The odds are pretty slim that he suddenly breaks out for another twenty or thirty goal season. It's been a long time since he did. At this point he's a power play specialist and a fourth forward. He might have speed to catch up with breakaways, but when he gets there, he doesn't try to engage opponents physically like most of the Caps' defensemen do. He wouldn't fit the style that Trotz coaches, and he'd probably be just as unhappy as he was under Hunter, when he up and left.

Pass, especially at the cost of a 1st round pick.
Jan. 29, 2018 at 1:00 p.m.
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I wanna get EK. I’d even trade Niskanen for EK


Yes. Because getting the defenseman with the highest past single-season goals total always makes such a difference in the playoffs....
Jan. 29, 2018 at 1:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
If that's their plan, they'd better get cracking before the deadline, to have enough time for a serious bidding war on Carlson, which should bring back a higher first and slightly better prospects,but... then you've got Green instead of Carlson, and you still need to trade for a veteran bottom pairing defenseman or two before the playoffs.

Do you respond to all criticism just by restating your original position, or saying your mind is unchanged? Philosophers believe that the point of a conversation is to share information, learn from each other, and arrive together at a deeper truth.

Go back and watch Mike Green trying to cover Sidney Crosby in the playoffs, and then look at the numbers of hits and takeaways Green and Carlson come up with, and their power play percentages int heir last two years together with the Caps. Carlson is an upgrade at each end of the rink. Now, maybe he's not willing to re-sign, in that case, if Green is willing to stick around long term at 5M, sure, bring him back, but don't go overpaying. The odds are pretty slim that he suddenly breaks out for another twenty or thirty goal season. It's been a long time since he did. At this point he's a power play specialist and a fourth forward. He might have speed to catch up with breakaways, but when he gets there, he doesn't try to engage opponents physically like most of the Caps' defensemen do. He wouldn't fit the style that Trotz coaches, and he'd probably be just as unhappy as he was under Hunter, when he up and left.

Pass, especially at the cost of a 1st round pick.


Nobody reads your essays on their posts. Just letting you know.
Jan. 29, 2018 at 2:15 p.m.
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Keep it friendly kids...it's just hockey day-dreaming...now resume your conversation.
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Jan. 29, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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Keep it friendly kids...it's just hockey day-dreaming...now resume your conversation.


This website is pure opinions and like you said hockey day dreaming. Nobody knows fair value and nobody really cares about stats. This mans totally disregards that and thinks he’s a know it all. That’s what pisses people off
 
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