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Created by: GuentzelvaniaUSA
Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 21, 2018
Published: Feb. 21, 2018
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because im insane an u cant tell me what to do
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
3$1,000,000
3$2,500,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$11,000,000
5$6,000,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (ARI)
  2. 2019 6th round pick (PIT)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$80,000,000$77,967,392$0$132,500$2,032,608
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 5
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,225,000$2,225,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 21, 2018 at 1:48 p.m.
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Pengweenies
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Quoting: StuTheSniper
1. Reaves will get equal or more than the $1.125 he gets now.
2. Sprong is MAJORLY undervalued. He's 20, has NHL experience and is scoring a point per game in the AHL this year. Pay up. He won't take another entry level deal lol
3. Sheahan is a 26 year old centre scoring at near 0.5 PPG pace. He'll get closer to $3M
4. Simon is scoring at a good clip in the AHL this year and has seen his role increase with the big club. Not to mention he's 23. He might take 900k for one year, but over 3 years he'll want more than that.


reaves will be lucky to stay with the team

sprong hasnt even played a full ahl season what r u even on.

sheahan had one of the worst performances on one of the worst teams in the league last year. theres more than just the half season with the pens to consider. plus hes rfa

simon is a 23 year old with 30 nhl games and 4 total goals, he scored at a 50 point pace in the AHL, which is good for a second line top six in that league but that doesnt transfer to the nhl, thats worth more like 25 points. plus hes RFA
Feb. 21, 2018 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MTF
reaves will be lucky to stay with the team

sprong hasnt even played a full ahl season what r u even on.

sheahan had one of the worst performances on one of the worst teams in the league last year. theres more than just the half season with the pens to consider. plus hes rfa

simon is a 23 year old with 30 nhl games and 4 total goals, he scored at a 50 point pace in the AHL, which is good for a second line top six in that league but that doesnt transfer to the nhl, thats worth more like 25 points. plus hes RFA


1. Then why are you resigning him knob?

2. He's split almost every year between leagues, so what does that even have to do with anything? Are you dense? Knob.

3. Last year was last year and this year is this year. Worst team in the league? Sounds like you're making a case for his poor showing then. Knob.

4. So RFA's don't get more than 900k? Knob.

Clearly you don't know nearly as much about hockey as you think. KNOB KNOB KNOB BOB ON MY KNOB
Feb. 21, 2018 at 1:53 p.m.
#28
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Quoting: StuTheSniper
He wasn't right on every point. The only one even close to a sign and trade was Hossa, which happened 13 years ago and had arbitration hearings surrounding it, etc. Not the same. To think that this is possible with Hornqvist is out to lunch. Quit wasting my time.


luckily, he never said hed be trading hornqvist like that. that was you that made it that way. So since you keep insisting the trade is that way, i have to tell you dude, theres no way that would happen in the nhl you are nuts to bring it up
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Feb. 21, 2018 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: GenoGodkin
luckily, he never said hed be trading hornqvist like that. that was you that made it that way. So since you keep insisting the trade is that way, i have to tell you dude, theres no way that would happen in the nhl you are nuts to bring it up


Quoting: MTF
since when do teams sign and flip UFAs? since literally forever. It's called a sign and trade. but really im just insane and i dont appreciate you telling me what 2 doooooo


Wow you guys are dumb. You basically just restated my first comment.

Google "sign and trade" and tell me the definition. I don't want no BS about how it translates to any other sport. I want a definition of a SIGN AND TRADE.
Feb. 21, 2018 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: StuTheSniper
Wow you guys are dumb


you do realize that was an answer to your question and that the comment very much did not say hornqvist was to be traded in such a way.
Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:07 p.m.
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Evgeni Godkin
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Quoting: MTF
you do realize that was an answer to your question and that the comment very much did not say hornqvist was to be traded in such a way.


yes he realizes this but hes so deep into the hole its better for him to just pretend
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Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:27 p.m.
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Evgeni Godkin
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Quoting: StuTheSniper
Wow you guys are dumb. You basically just restated my first comment.

Google "sign and trade" and tell me the definition. I don't want no BS about how it translates to any other sport. I want a definition of a SIGN AND TRADE.


So okay, as previously conceded, in the NBA's CBA, they gave this specific type of deal a name, that name being a "sign-and-trade." I will conced you are correct that to be an official sign and trade its gotta be NBA, i will give you that.

What I cant give you however is the rest of what youve argued.

1. This hornqvist deal is not an official sign and trade, nor did the OP ever say it is. OP said it would look like one of the many deals that he gave to you as examples
2. you asked for an example of a similar deal EVER happening in the NHL, OP provided a bunch, one of which was EXACT (Hossa)
3. Youre being silly if you think hornqvist is the signing to argue about here...
4. Horny's FA rights are far more valuable than a guy like Jimmy Vesey so no, hes not worth a 7th
5. It is incredibly common to refer to those types of deals as a sign and trade even if they arent in the NBA or exactly the same, sports borrow terms from other sports literally all the time. Hell sportsnet spent all of last season hyping a potential "Steven stamkos sign and trade" and while it neither happened nor would be a real sign and trade by your count, its perfectly normal and okay to use the term.

so there we have it our game is over and sure, you scored a goal but you still lost 5-1man
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Feb. 21, 2018 at 2:41 p.m.
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Evgeni Godkin
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Quoting: StuTheSniper
1. Then why are you resigning him knob?

2. He's split almost every year between leagues, so what does that even have to do with anything? Are you dense? Knob.

3. Last year was last year and this year is this year. Worst team in the league? Sounds like you're making a case for his poor showing then. Knob.

4. So RFA's don't get more than 900k? Knob.

Clearly you don't know nearly as much about hockey as you think. KNOB KNOB KNOB BOB ON MY KNOB


1. First off, he's not resigning him. you dont pay people when they resign unless they still have money left on their contract. And the reason is probably because he either likes reaves, or more likely because this was not about reaves at all and was solely about fitting tavares on the team and he didnt care to find some other 900,000 dollar plug

2. wrong again, he played 18 NHL games in 2015 after being drafted and then was sent to JUNIORS, not AHL. last season he played in juniors the entire season again due to not being eligible to play in the AHL. He played 8 games with us this year only because literally everyone and their cousin was injured and he was sent down as soon as possible to finish his FIRST ahl season. being that he's 20 and has 5 points in 26 nhl games if you think he will be signed a mill or more you are verifiably crazy

3. this argument makes no sense. both years and all the years before will be accounted for during negotiation. Oh? he got traded to the defending 2X champs? well of course he's playing better. This is a two lane street.

4. yes lets ignore the rest of what he said and only read the throw in at the end. Simon is a 4th line winger with 13 career points. nobody said RFAs dont get more than 900,000, just the ones named dominik simon. there you go putting words in people's mouths again.
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