Oh god here we go again. I’m spunding like a broken record at this point but...

Canes are looking for a Seth Jones for Ryan Johansson type trade. D for FW preferably a center. They have stated it. B’s asked last offseason....Canes wanted Pasta. Yes they have a new owner and Francis has been moved upstairs. Does not change what they want or need. If the best player coming over in the trade is Hanafin’s replacement....they fail. Better off just signing him long term. They don’t need to move him. They are willing to but not just for the sake of trading him. They get a young star forward or they hold him.

While i like JVR they don’t need another LW

I'll keep this short, canes say no thank you

First of all, you don't have to get all uptight about this. I think the Canes + you (even though you're a Bruins fan) way overvalue Noah Hanifin. Sure he's good and all, but let's not act like he's untouchable, I don't even think he's gonna be as good as Charlie McAvoy long-term. I feel like it'd be a gamble to get him, but I love the idea of having a first d-pairing of Hanifin-McAvoy. The other option here would be to not make a big move on a defenseman, stay put for a season and let Zboril, Vaakanainen and Lauzon develop for another year. But hey, this wouldn't be the worst move for either team here. The Canes get a top defensive prospect, a top 4-6 defenseman and Danton Heinen who had 48 points while not being in the top 6. Honestly the Canes would be smarter to get multiple pieces out of it whereas the Bruins get a piece that they want as well. You could go with either Klefbom from Edmonton, who I wouldn't give Krug up for because I simply don't think he's as good. You could also go with Slavin, who I'd frankly be okay with, but the upside on Hanifin is probably higher.

And then my reason for signing JVR is that he's a goal-scorer and this team could always use more of that. I'd prefer a right-winger here as well, especially after trading Danton Heinen, but I don't think Simmonds is worth trying to move more pieces for, but then again, it's a possibility that the best thing you could do with this team is just re-sign a few guys and guarantee you have enough cap to sign the young guys long-term. I'm just curious to see what moves they will make this offseason

I'm curious to hear what you're thinking

It does not address the teams needs (top 6 scoring center, or RW help)

Carolina is looking to move Faulk over Hanifin, (not that Hanifin's name hasn't been in rumors) But if he is gonna go it's going to be for a big piece (like the rumor of Hanifin to Vancouver for the 7th overall pick and a prospect) (or Hanifin to Buffalo for Ryan O'Riley)

It's not necessarily that the trade is bad in terms of value, it just doesn't give Carolina anything they need

Heinin is an Interesting young center, but he is about equal to Victor Rask that we already have

Zboril is a decent D-prospect, but we have 2 better young D in Haydn Fleury and Jake Bean looking for playing time, so Zboril just gets lost in the depth

Having Krug as your center piece just complicates our D even more

1- there have been literally hundreds of these posts for the last 2 years. I’m getting sick of them.
2. I don’t overvalue Hanifin or any player. I keep emotions out of it. Honestly you way OVERPAID for him.
3. Does not matter what you or I think. As i said the Canes have made it clear that they would trade him and what they want for him. Unfortunately ACGM s only her the first part of that and keep proposing things that they have no interest in or does not help them. Some are ridiculuos, some are fair value but don’t help them and isn’t what they are looking for. Remember just because it’s an even trade talent wise does not mean it’s a good one for both teams.

Exactly

To be honest, like most people, I absolutely can assure you that I didn't even think to look at Carolina's current roster situation and probably should have. Your point about Zboril makes a lot of sense, I think that Haydn Fleury's definitely better than him right now, time will tell with Jake Bean but I can see why you'd think this. I'm not even gonna argue the point about Heinen here, that's pretty spot on. Thank you for explaining.

Yeah, I've heard his name tossed around in Bruins trade rumors since before he was drafted, most of them either sound like they offer too little, too much or just the wrong pieces (I've done all 3 of these in ACGMs tbh). I understand where you're coming from though

Wasn’t trying to be dick, if it came across that way i apologize.

Lol it's all good