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NYI - Getting picks back

Created by: Tkachinla
Team: 2018-19 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 10, 2018
Published: Jun. 10, 2018
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Brodie is worth a mid 1st round pick plus a prospect, at a minimum. Has two years term on a great contract, 28 years old, proven Top 3-4 guy. Would fit in nicely with Leddy and Boychuk:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/definitive-ranking-nhls-top-23-defencemen-three-seasons/

Stone is worth a mid 2nd rounder:
https://flamesnation.ca/2018/06/08/what-are-defensemen-worth-in-the-trade-market/

Fox is worth a 2018 2nd round pick. Harvard with a few years left at school. American. Born in NY state. Likely would love to have his rights traded to an east coast team.

NYI has not given Ho-Sang much of an opportunity at the NHL level, and ongoing "cultural" difficulties make it easy for NYI to get value back for the player.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
3$1,200,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,850,000
1$3,650,000
2$1,650,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua
  2. 2018 1st round pick (CGY)
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (CGY)
NYI
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Stone, Michael
  3. 2019 4th round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
D Adam Fox
2.
CGY
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
VAN moves back one round in the 2018 draft and gets a veteran player on a much reduced contract.
VAN
  1. Brouwer, Troy ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2018 4th round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
Retention amount equal to what CGY would pay to buy Brouwer out, except this way CGY only pays him $1.5M for 2 years instead of 4 years.

Gets VAN a veteran player for their 4th line. Lots of cap space with Sedins retiring, plus a very young forward core. Also factor in that Jim Benning isn't that savvy. CGY and VAN have a history of doing deals together.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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Logo of the VAN
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2019
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Logo of the CAR
2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
28$80,000,000$66,876,309$0$2,197,500$13,123,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 4
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
Ho-Sang, Joshua
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
Tkachuk, Matthew
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
Frolík, Michael
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Bennett, Sam
$1,950,000$1,950,000
C
UFA - 1
Jankowski, Mark
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Czarnik, Austin
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Ferland, Micheal
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Ryan, Derek
$1,850,000$1,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Shore, Nick
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA
Mangiapane, Andrew
$705,000$705,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Lazar, Curtis
$950,000$950,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Hathaway, Garnet
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Lomberg, Ryan
$710,000$710,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Foo, Spencer
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Giordano, Mark
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
Smith, Mike
$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Andersson, Rasmus
$755,833$755,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 2
Hamonic, Travis
$3,857,143$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 2
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,650,000$3,650,000
G
UFA - 3
Kulak, Brett
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Pateryn, Greg
$1,650,000$1,650,000
RD
UFA - 3
Gillies, Jon
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 2
Kylington, Oliver
$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Goloubef, Cody
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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Brodie isn't worth more than Ho Sang and a 2nd, let alone that
Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Brodie isn't worth more than Ho Sang and a 2nd, let alone that


A top 4 dman at 28 years old is definitely worth a "problem prospect" and a 2nd. Vatanen, an equal player to Brodie (if we're being conservative), netted a Top 6 center (Henrique) plus Blandisi (a roster player with equal value to Ho-Sang). Top 6 centers go for a pretty premium. So, yeah, I firmly believe that a mid-1st plus Ho-Sang is doable for Brodie. Likely on a the lower end of the value curve.

FYI: While this is prepared by "FlamesNation" (I'll admit it's likely subject to a bias or two), it does show recent comparable trades for dmen in a straightforward manner. It's a fair reference for comparable values: https://flamesnation.ca/2018/06/08/what-are-defensemen-worth-in-the-trade-market
Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:30 p.m.
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Lou would laugh at this offer.
Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:32 p.m.
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A top 4 dman at 28 years old is definitely worth a "problem prospect" and a 2nd. Vatanen, an equal player to Brodie (if we're being conservative), netted a Top 6 center (Henrique) plus Blandisi (a roster player with equal value to Ho-Sang). Top 6 centers go for a pretty premium. So, yeah, I firmly believe that a mid-1st plus Ho-Sang is doable for Brodie. Likely on a the lower end of the value curve.

FYI: While this is prepared by "FlamesNation" (I'll admit it's likely subject to a bias or two), it does show recent comparable trades for dmen in a straightforward manner. It's a fair reference for comparable values: https://flamesnation.ca/2018/06/08/what-are-defensemen-worth-in-the-trade-market


Blandisi is an AHL bottom 6 player. And the package for Brodie should stop at Ho Sang and a 2nd
Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: isles_fan123
Lou would laugh at this offer.


Split this up anyway you like, and the value is good both ways:

Stone + 2018 4th = Ho-Sang (Stone is worth a 3rd round pick in 2018 or 2019)
Brodie = 2018 1st + 2019 2nd (standard price for Top 4 dmen on good contracts -- see all recent comparables over past 4-5 years)
Fox = 2018 2nd (subject to signing a contract, Lou and every GM would do this deal all day)
Jun. 10, 2018 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Blandisi is an AHL bottom 6 player. And the package for Brodie should stop at Ho Sang and a 2nd


No Top 4 dman in the NHL goes for a problem prospect (see any piece of news related to NYI and Ho-Sang since he was drafted) and a 2nd. It just doesn't happen. Are you suggesting that Ho-Sang and a 2nd rounder is equal to Henrique? A bonafide Top 6 center? Not a chance, even for a cap-strapped team.
Jun. 10, 2018 at 4:06 p.m.
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Stone isn't worth a 2nd with retention let alone without. His contract stinks and he was bad. Brodie isn't worth a mid round 1st (Calling 11/12 a mid first is a stretch, especially in this draft) and a prospect. He's good on a good contract, but he's not an elite defenseman.
 
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