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If D gt C realistically

Created by: Zubrowka
Initial Creation Date: Apr 6, 2019
Published: Apr 26, 2019 at 3:06 pm
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
If D>C for the Flyers FO, and Frost is ready, they can add that veteran D man by buying low and take care of several long-term extensions to RFAs (Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny). I'm not advocating this approach or priority on D; Just illustrating a scenario to expect if the Flyers prioritize a veteran D acquisition and stick with an internal approach to the 2C/3C hole.

I'm also doubting the Flyers will splurge on a long-term UFA contract on D here to either Stralman or Myers, the usual suspects of speculation. I also regard Karlsson as a pie in the sky target. Getting him to sign here after the Flyers' poor season when he will get great money elsewhere is just not realistic. That leaves the trade route, and Chucky two trades is able to wheel and deal.

With Demers, the Flyers are buying low on a player with some injury history, but all the "veteran" qualities they seem to be emphasizing. Demers is a two-way defenseman with a rough around the edges play-style that fits Flyer hockey. Just how the Flyers configure the D will depend on the form of the players, particularly young Phil Myers, who could develop into a top pairing D man. Regardless, the Flyers would now have 3 right-sided D men to play with plus a better balance of youth and experience. For Arizona, they have a surplus on D, a need to address forward, and a preference for cheaper, younger talent due to financial constraints. Hagg and a pick may be seen as fair value from their side to cut costs, but perhaps a better round pick would be needed to close the deal.

The Nichushkin buy low is a carry over from another roster I published. Just happy to get more feedback on that outside the box idea of taking a buy low swing for a third line wing role there. Paired with a play maker in Frost, that might prove really interesting.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas1$750,000
Bailey, Justin1$750,000
Hartman, Ryan2$1,850,000
Laughton, Scott2$2,000,000
Provorov, Ivan8$6,250,000
Sanheim, Travis8$4,375,000
Konecny, Travis8$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Talbot, Cam2$2,250,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Nichushkin, Valeri
DAL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
PHI
  1. Demers, Jason
ARI
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ARI
PHI
MTL
2020
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,000,000$77,330,554$0$3,065,000$5,669,446

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
PHI
Frost, Morgan
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
DAL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$2,950,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
DAL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Hartman, Ryan
$1,850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 6
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$678,889
RD
RFA - 1
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
ARI
Demers, Jason
$3,937,500
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
PHI
Talbot, Cam
$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$4,375,000
RD
RFA - 2
PHI
Gudas, Radko
$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PHI
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 2
PHI
MacDonald, Andrew
$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
PHI
Bunnaman, Connor
$736,666
C
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
van Riemsdyk, J.
Couturier, S.
Giroux, C.
Gostisbehere, S.
Voracek, J.
Power Play 2
Lindblom, O.
Patrick, N.
Frost, M.
Sanheim, T.
Konecny, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Laughton, S.
Lindblom, O.
Provorov, I.
Demers, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Raffl, M.
Nichushkin, V.
Sanheim, T.
Gudas, R.

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Apr 26, 2019 at 3:23
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I like Demers quite a bit, and was hoping that Hexy would sign him back when he was a UFA but I'm not convinced that the Yotes will want to move him. Still, he'd make sense but you probably need to give up more than Hagg and a 6th to get him.

Also, send MacDonald to the AHL and save yourself some money.
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Apr 26, 2019 at 3:31
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Quoting: Btosh
I like Demers quite a bit, and was hoping that Hexy would sign him back when he was a UFA but I'm not convinced that the Yotes will want to move him. Still, he'd make sense but you probably need to give up more than Hagg and a 6th to get him.

Took your advice, and bumped it up to a third. The premise with the Yotes dealing anyone like Demers is how badly burned they were with injuries last year. It really killed their season. They may want to shed salary of injury risk players (who are still marketable) in favor of UFA forward signings or trades to address their scoring woes. I'm convinced they will do this with someone regardless of whether the Flyers partner with them in a trade.

Quoting: Btosh
Also, send MacDonald to the AHL and save yourself some money.

Just leaving AMac where he is as there's no need for more $ now in this build. He's fine as depth.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Apr 26, 2019 at 4:04
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Posts: 83
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Actually this is the kind of veteran I hope Fletchers pursuing. Reasonable contract and term.
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Apr 29, 2019 at 9:29
#4
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Posts: 42
Likes: 4
Quoting: Zubrowka
Took your advice, and bumped it up to a third. The premise with the Yotes dealing anyone like Demers is how badly burned they were with injuries last year. It really killed their season. They may want to shed salary of injury risk players (who are still marketable) in favor of UFA forward signings or trades to address their scoring woes. I'm convinced they will do this with someone regardless of whether the Flyers partner with them in a trade. .


It definitely makes sense, but I'd think they'd want fair value for Demers so the better pick is probably more realistic. Plus, there's definitely going to be competition to get him as you mentioned so a 3rd over a 4th probably makes this deal more attractive to the Yotes. That being said, if all it would take is a fourth and Hagg then I'm sure plenty of us will drive Hagg to the airport lol.


Quoting: Zubrowka
Just leaving AMac where he is as there's no need for more $ now in this build. He's fine as depth.



Fair though I have two thoughts there:

1. I don't expect them (or see a reason to) carry 8 defensemen.
2. Sending him down opens up more cap space to either use later on in the year or use now to bring in another forward in the event that they don't think Frost is NHL ready.

There's a good amount of space without sending AMac to the AHL, but sending him to the Phantoms should give you like 2-3M more to play with. I'm not sure if someone jumps out as an ideal candidate, but it gives you more flexibility to improve the roster.

Also, the Phantoms are likely going to need some bodies on defense IIRC; none of the European skater prospects are coming over from what I've seen so they only have 4 or 5 defensemen heading into next season as of now. That could obviously change, of course.
Apr 29, 2019 at 1:39
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Quoting: Btosh
Also, the Phantoms are likely going to need some bodies on defense IIRC; none of the European skater prospects are coming over from what I've seen so they only have 4 or 5 defensemen heading into next season as of now. That could obviously change, of course.

I thought Hogberg was going to be coming over. I guess we will see. You are probably right, that they won't carry 8 D. The fun question is whether they will carry a 14th forward or a 3rd goalie after the raft of injuries that burned them in goal last season. I have no idea, but I am cracking up at how it must feel to be Fletch looking at that issue. It's unconventional to carry 3, but after using 8 rofl. Here is the updated roster.
 
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