I agree that Ghost is the odd man out in Philly with all the young dman they have. However i wouldnt be willing to pay that much for him i dont think Byron needs to be in that offer and i think it starts with Tatar and Juulsen and 3rd and what the response is you get. Wouldnt led off with an offer that overpayment.

Overpayment for ghost. Why trade tatar when drouin has more trade value (younger and under contract for 4 more years). Tatar and drouin play similar roles in MTL, I would rather keep tatar.

drouin has the much higher ceiling, and for his age, a better long term contract.

I agree, that's why I said you should trade drouin instead of tatar. Tatar, Juulsen, Byron, 2nd, and a 3rd >>> than drouin.

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One could even argue that the way things ended last season tatar > drouin, or byron > drouin.

i'm not touching drouin just yet, and i dont think habs maangement is either. wayy too much potential to trade away

Overpayment for ghost. Why trade tatar when drouin has more trade value (younger and under contract for 4 more years). Tatar and drouin play similar roles in MTL, I would rather keep tatar.

You do run a risk trading drouin but if its between trading him and trading Tatar Juulsen Byron a 2nd n 3rd, than you trade Drouin. Yes he may grow into a 70 point player and thats a risk, but trading away Juulsen who has potential, and wte assets would come with the 2nd n 3rd rounds picks, not to mention throwing in a proven 20 goal scorer on top of a player in Tatar that currently has the same offensive output as Drouin is worse. However i dont think MB has any interest in trading Drouin because for whatever reason they like him, i dont know if that is mutual between him and Julien sense he seemed unwilling to give him top 6 minutes at the end of the season. And if we want to fix our D we are going to have to move players with value instead of 5 plus assets for one player.

You do run a risk trading drouin but if its between trading him and trading Tatar Juulsen Byron a 2nd n 3rd, than you trade Drouin. Yes he may grow into a 70 point player and thats a risk, but trading away Juulsen who has potential, and wte assets would come with the 2nd n 3rd rounds picks, not to mention throwing in a proven 20 goal scorer on top of a player in Tatar that currently has the same offensive output as Drouin is worse. However i dont think MB has any interest in trading Drouin because for whatever reason they like him, i dont know if that is mutual between him and Julien sense he seemed unwilling to give him top 6 minutes at the end of the season. And if we want to fix our D we are going to have to move players with value instead of 5 plus assets for one player.

As good as Tatar is, he is unlikely to be in MTL after his contract finishes

you have to factor in age as well. tatar and byron arent getting any better. juulsen is the only one who will grow. maybe i drop byron from the trade, but no way are the habs gonna trade drouin.

I know, which is why drouin's trade value is higher which is why I would trade him. 2 years from now the habs will potentially have Poehling, Suzuki, Ylonen, Ikonen, Teasdale, Evans, and maybe other prospects they havent drafted yet etc. Pushing for a roster spot. One of them will replace tatar. A free agent would replace drouin if he was traded.

The point I'm trying to argue is that between Tatar and Drouin, Drouin gets the habs a top D, Tatar does not. Between Tatar and Drouin, Tatar was a more valuable player to the habs last season, and therefore is a safe bet over the next 2 seasons as well.

I have to disagree because it is clear that MTL isn't ready to actually compete yet with the Tampa and Bostons of the league so why not get a **** ton of value Tatar who is coming off his best season and keep Drouin whose value is low right now. Tatar should be able to fetch you somewhere around the 1st,2nd,3rd he was dealt for from Detroit to Vegas (probably a bit less). Letting Tatar play out the next 2 years and walking after that doesn't let the Habs maximize the value of their players for the future. I can't see MTL being contenders until 2 years from now so moving Tatar makes more logical sense. Also, if Drouin doesn't fit again next year then he could be on the trade block aswell considering the large amount of high end forward prospects that MTL has.

Drouin has more value in a trade, Tatar has more value in the habs lineup. It makes way more sense to trade Drouin, unless of course you think he will live up to his potential, which is tough to say.

@rs131313 I disagree with a few things you said.
C'mon lmao Boston is playoff bred team and even though Tampa lost we are gonna need to play that stacked roster every year. Also I said Tatar would get less than 1,2,3. Probably a late first and a 3rd. If washed players at the deadline can get you high picks then Tatar with 2 years left can get you a 1st and a 3rd
1. MTL can't compete with Tampa and Boston:
- MTL and Tampa had the same amount of playoff wins last year. MTL dominated Tampa in their last meeting of the season. I know MTL had more motivation as they were fighting for their playoff lives, but still dominated. Pretty sure MTL had a good record against Bosto last year too. MTL is only going to get better as there prospects make the team.

2. Tatar has more value than Drouin and the value of a 1st, 2nd , and 3rd:
- Tatar will never get that in a trade again, he made Vegas GM look bad. He also had 4 years left on his deal at the time (same as Drouin now). Drouin still has value because everyone sees the potential, just like Ghost, who the arguement is to trade for.

@ CaptainFlynnt C'mon lmao Boston is playoff bred team and even though Tampa lost we are gonna need to play that stacked roster every year. Also I said Tatar would get less than 1,2,3. Probably a late first and a 3rd. If washed players at the deadline can get you high picks then Tatar with 2 years left can get you a 1st and a 3rd

Tatar has nice value for a playoff contender on a great contract

im still not trading drouin for ghost. the potential is too high. drouin isn't at the chucky stage. he was great for like 60% of the season last year. the habs wont give up on him just yet

@ CaptainFlynnt C'mon lmao Boston is playoff bred team and even though Tampa lost we are gonna need to play that stacked roster every year. Also I said Tatar would get less than 1,2,3. Probably a late first and a 3rd. If washed players at the deadline can get you high picks then Tatar with 2 years left can get you a 1st and a 3rd

Tatar has nice value for a playoff contender on a great contract

Ghost is very overrated anyways

Yes, 65 pts in 78 games as a d-man is very overrated. 2nd in Calder, and 10th and 17th in Norris voting in 4 seasons, is very overrated.

He might be available after a down season, and Philly has lots of depth at LD. This is the perfect time to trade for him - because he is underrated in Philly right now.

He's a guy im drafting in fantasy hockey but he isn't great defensively. Flyers fans have realized that and that's why they want him gone

Yes, 65 pts in 78 games as a d-man is very overrated. 2nd in Calder, and 10th and 17th in Norris voting in 4 seasons, is very overrated.

He might be available after a down season, and Philly has lots of depth at LD. This is the perfect time to trade for him - because he is underrated in Philly right now.

I agree. Drouin isn't the best defensively either though. Ghost can run a PP from the top. Having Weber as a partner would surely help his game.