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Blockbuster with Flyers 2020-21

Created by: TrueNorth
Initial Creation Date: Mar 30, 2020
Published: Mar 30 at 3:19
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
Winnipeg wins this trade IF Patrick can stay healthy and grow into the player he was anticipated to be coming out of Brandon. Philly wins this trade in every other scenario. Worth the risk?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Appleton, Mason2$1,000,000
Niku, Sami2$1,000,000
Roslovic, Jack2$2,500,000
Patrick, Nolan2$3,000,000
Harkins, Jansen1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Beaulieu, Nathan2$1,000,000
DeMelo, Dylan4$3,000,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
PHI
  1. Lowry, Adam
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian
  3. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,401,189$0$132,500$98,811
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Patrick, Nolan
$3,000,000
C, RW
RFA
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$6,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,666
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$2,500,000
RW, C
RFA
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Gustafsson, David
$817,500
C
RFA - 2
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$1,000,000
RW, C
RFA
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$775,000
LW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
$3,000,000
RD
UFA
WPG
Berdin, Mikhail
$758,333
G
RFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,000,000
LD
UFA
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Niku, Sami
$1,000,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1

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Mar 30 at 4:55
#1
Jet69
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 702
Likes: 225
Too much risk with Patrick and Ghost isn’t what we need in a defenceman. Value is close but don’t see Winnipeg accepting.
Mar 30 at 5:51
#2
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 106
Likes: 67
Flyers decline, easy. No reason for them to sell so low on both players. Lowry is a 4C and Vesalainen has middle six upside. The 1st, likely mid-round, isn't that valuable as the Flyers are trying to compete now. Although Patrick has been underwhelming so far given where he was drafted, he's already proven to be a capable 3C at 19 and 20 years old. I wouldn't give him up for that package, yet alone throwing ghost in too.
Mar 31 at 10:01
#3
Thread Starter
TrueNorth
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 2,739
Likes: 495
Quoting: krzyk0
Flyers decline, easy. No reason for them to sell so low on both players. Lowry is a 4C and Vesalainen has middle six upside. The 1st, likely mid-round, isn't that valuable as the Flyers are trying to compete now. Although Patrick has been underwhelming so far given where he was drafted, he's already proven to be a capable 3C at 19 and 20 years old. I wouldn't give him up for that package, yet alone throwing ghost in too.


I was seeing Flyers posts where armchair GMs were using compliance buyouts to rid the team of Ghost's contract. I hadn't realized that his inclusion would be seen as a "buy low". Leaving him out, what would be the return you would hope to see from the Jets for Patrick?
Mar 31 at 11:44
#4
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 106
Likes: 67
The "buying low" was more towards Patrick than Ghost. I'm just a huge ghost fan, so i'm biased. In terms of a return for Patrick, it's so hard to even say given his situation. If teams see the Flyers shopping Patrick then his value will drop even further because teams will probably think his disorder is worse than the Flyers are leading on and they're just trying to get rid of him. Given his value is so low at this point, I just don't think it makes sense for the Flyers to trade Patrick unless so team offers way more than he's worth. I don't know enough about the Jets to know what that'd be, but I doubt it would makes sense for you guys. The flyers are going to hold onto him and resign resign him to a cheap one year deal this off-season. Next year is his make or break year. If he can't stay healthy and/or underpreforms next season, you guys could get him for dirt cheap. I think it makes the most sense to wait a year for both teams.
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