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If Dubas did better on Matthews and Marner Contracts

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 14, 2020
Published: Apr. 14, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Matthews 11.5Mx7; Matthews gets money between Eichel and McDavid. He gets more money than Tavares but gets the same term.

Marner 9.5Mx6; Marner gets a fair contract using Rantanen and Aho as comparables.

Leafs save 1.5M and get an extra 2 years on Matthews.
Free Agent Signings
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3$750,000
3$2,500,000
3$2,500,000
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2$725,000
4$4,500,000
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Marner, Mitchell
5$9,500,000
Matthews, Auston
6$11,500,000
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2020
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2021
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22$81,500,000$81,378,200$0$0$121,800
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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Marner, Mitchell
$9,500,000$9,500,000
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$821,667$821,667
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
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$925,000$925,000
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G
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G
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Apr. 18, 2020 at 5:30 a.m.
#26
EclipzeEDM
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Quoting: NR1203
No. JT was a UFA with multiple teams in the running for him. Matthews was an RFA and his asking price was probably too high (judging from what he signed for) to get an offer sheet. Their situations were completely different and 11 million is a perfectly fair price for Tavares. He wouldn’t have signed for 9 million no matter where he went and you know that.

Dubas screwed up Matthews contract for sure. But not because of the Tavares contract. As I said, Tavares had a lot more power in the negotiation than Matthews did. Dubas caved because he was scared of Matthews holding out like Nylander did. And as a result, he was forced to overpay Marner. But Tavares’ contract isn’t responsible for any of that.


Who cares what Tavares was offered. All you fans in Toronto talked about was the hometown boy taking a hometown discount to play for his hometown team. He’s not worth 11M I don’t care what he was offered. He doesn’t wanna sign for what he worth then fine let him walk. Like I said Toronto is no better with him than without.

And as for Matthews and Marner I get that they were RFA and the situation was different but signing Tavares to his contract was the bar that was set. You knew if they had good years (which they did) they were gonna say well you paid him that so I’m worth close to. You can argue all you want about who is or who isn’t overpaid but there’s no denying the Tavares signing set the standard for Matthews and Marner.
Apr. 18, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.
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Who cares what Tavares was offered. All you fans in Toronto talked about was the hometown boy taking a hometown discount to play for his hometown team. He’s not worth 11M I don’t care what he was offered. He doesn’t wanna sign for what he worth then fine let him walk. Like I said Toronto is no better with him than without.

And as for Matthews and Marner I get that they were RFA and the situation was different but signing Tavares to his contract was the bar that was set. You knew if they had good years (which they did) they were gonna say well you paid him that so I’m worth close to. You can argue all you want about who is or who isn’t overpaid but there’s no denying the Tavares signing set the standard for Matthews and Marner.


Ok, fine. Lets say Tavares are set the standard. But he did take a discount (of 2 million) to sign in Toronto. And also, how is Tavares, a superstar UFA in his prime, not worth 11 million? No matter where he went, his salary would have been around there. Possibly higher. Aside from your anti-Leafs bias I don’t know why that’s not a fair contract

Now, if Matthews signed for the same thing as JT (11x7), I would have been happy. But he got half a million more for 2 less years. Matthews clearly didn’t base his ask on Tavares’ contract because his was significantly worse for the leafs. Matthews’ contract was the reason Marner was overpaid. Tavares has nothing to do with that.
 
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