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Dec. 4, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: PGHBOB69
Well goals then.


Quoting: bhavikp27
I don't only look at points when I talk about how good a player is offensively. As I said, I will just agree to disagree.


I’m just saying too most look at at stat line wrong. It’s not 2 separate seasons. Look at it, and look at his whole year in 2018-19, b/ween FLA and PGH. Added together and not 2 separate seasons. And McCann won a roster Spot at 19 and never looked back. I bet every team wishes the 22nd overall pick wins a roster spot at 19 years old!!
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: PGHBOB69
McCann is better than Nichushkin. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. And 19 goals in 18-19. You are looking at his stat line wrong!! You are looking at it and not adding the 2 lines together in 18-19. It’s not 2 separate seasons..lol. He split the year between 2 teams. And McCann is only 24 years old. Made the NHL when he was 19 years old and has never looked back. And he’s been bounced around from 3C, to top 6 LW, to 3rd line LW, to 2C when Sid or Geno miss time. And this year, he’ll score 20 plus goals. They already said, they are keeping him on the LW so he can do what he does best, and just snipe!! Score goals, he has a great shot!! And young players need that consistency and routine. Like I said, he’s been jumped around to anywhere we were weak and needed him. Usually only veteran players are good at that, being a utility type player. The young players need that consistency and routine or u could ruin them. This year, he is gonna easily score 20 plus goals; he already scored 19 in a season. And he’s a good two-way player. Ya sure, Nichushkin is better defensively, he had Selke votes last year!! But McCann is a lot better offensively right now!! And much more potential.


First, pretty sure @bhavikp27 was quoting Haula's stats (not McCann's). I was confused as all hell until I realized this, but there ya go, lol.

Second, look a little deeper at Nichushkin's stats. He was able to drive possession and put up points despite heavy defensive deployment. McCann started in the offensive zone much more often than Nichushkin, which makes his one goal lead for the season a little less impressive.

In short, I think the statement that McC is better is highly questionable. It's not necessarily wrong, as both have a lot of years left and we'll have to see how it plays out, but it's definitely debatable.

Don't get me wrong here, I like McCann and think he's a nice player. He would be bottom six for the Avs though, and I'd rather have a guy who can do what Nuke does than one who would be best suited to more of an offensive deployment. That was my main point in this thread.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:24 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.
Quoting: Anus_McLeod
First, pretty sure @bhavikp27 was quoting Haula's stats (not McCann's). I was confused as all hell until I realized this, but there ya go, lol.

Second, look a little deeper at Nichushkin's stats. He was able to drive possession and put up points despite heavy defensive deployment. McCann started in the offensive zone much more often than Nichushkin, which makes his one goal lead for the season a little less impressive.

In short, I think the statement that McC is better is highly questionable. It's not necessarily wrong, as both have a lot of years left and we'll have to see how it plays out, but it's definitely debatable.

Don't get me wrong here, I like McCann and think he's a nice player. He would be bottom six for the Avs though, and I'd rather have a guy who can do what Nuke does than one who would be best suited to more of an offensive deployment. That was my main point in this thread.


Lol.. yes, if you look at McCann’s stat line and don’t see that 2018-19 was split b/ween 2 teams. And look at that year as 2 separate years, then his stat history looks average..or bad. But add it together and get the 19 goal, 35 point season, then it looks a lot better. And u can’t tell everything from a stat like, but players do have to prove it with goals and points or it’s just always potential then.

I’m a Nichkushkin fan bud!! But to say he’s as good offensively as McCann is just wrong. And more offensive potential. It’s just not true. Better defensively, yes 100%!! And the selke votes last year prove that!! But I understand west coast teams fans not watching a lot of east coast games and not being super familiar with their players. Same with east coast teams fans not being familiar with west coast teams and their players. And not that I’m a savant or know everything and every player. But I played hockey all growing up and throughout HS. Ive gotten NHL season pass for they last 5-6 years, maybe longer. I’ve been in fantasy hockey leagues for atleast the last 10 years. And the Fantasy leagues help more than anything on getting to know all the players. And like I said, I’ve been in hockey ones for atleast the last 10 years. Have one that is a keeper league, that has been going on for atleast 8-9 years. I would say 11-12 years. And there is a big gap offensively b/ween McCann and Nichushken. I’ve watched both enough!! After this year too, people are gonna think differently about McCann. Because of everything I said in my other post, him moving around and now staying on the LW all year this year. He’s gonna score 20 plus goals. I wouldn’t be surprised if he scores 30 and has 50 points. Really, he has that potential. Again, only 24 and has been playing in the NHL since he was 19. And none of the sh*t about me should impress you at all..lol. But knowing that I knew everyone was looking at McCann stat line wrong and missing that should..lol.
Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.
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Sorry for the long post!! Lol
Dec. 5, 2020 at 6:56 a.m.
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Lol.. yes, if you look at McCann’s stat line and don’t see that 2018-19 was split b/ween 2 teams. And look at that year as 2 separate years, then his stat history looks average..or bad. But add it together and get the 19 goal, 35 point season, then it looks a lot better. And u can’t tell everything from a stat like, but players do have to prove it with goals and points or it’s just always potential then.

I’m a Nichkushkin fan bud!! But to say he’s as good offensively as McCann is just wrong. And more offensive potential. It’s just not true. Better defensively, yes 100%!! And the selke votes last year prove that!! But I understand west coast teams fans not watching a lot of east coast games and not being super familiar with their players. Same with east coast teams fans not being familiar with west coast teams and their players. And not that I’m a savant or know everything and every player. But I played hockey all growing up and throughout HS. Ive gotten NHL season pass for they last 5-6 years, maybe longer. I’ve been in fantasy hockey leagues for atleast the last 10 years. And the Fantasy leagues help more than anything on getting to know all the players. And like I said, I’ve been in hockey ones for atleast the last 10 years. Have one that is a keeper league, that has been going on for atleast 8-9 years. I would say 11-12 years. And there is a big gap offensively b/ween McCann and Nichushken. I’ve watched both enough!! After this year too, people are gonna think differently about McCann. Because of everything I said in my other post, him moving around and now staying on the LW all year this year. He’s gonna score 20 plus goals. I wouldn’t be surprised if he scores 30 and has 50 points. Really, he has that potential. Again, only 24 and has been playing in the NHL since he was 19. And none of the sh*t about me should impress you at all..lol. But knowing that I knew everyone was looking at McCann stat line wrong and missing that should..lol.


No one was looking at McCann's stats wrong. Why you seem to be so sure of that is downright baffling to me, as there is literally no indication that was the case.

As I said, some of Nichushkin's underlying stats from last year indicate that the opposite of what you think may be true. Better expected goals for, despite fewer minutes and more dzone starts, is one example.

Again, I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong. It's your opinion and that's fine. There is evidence to back up both sides of the argument though, which is why this is an interesting trade proposal to begin with. In the end, neither team does it (IMO), but the value is in the neighborhood of fair.
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Dec. 5, 2020 at 6:04 p.m.
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No one was looking at McCann's stats wrong. Why you seem to be so sure of that is downright baffling to me, as there is literally no indication that was the case.

As I said, some of Nichushkin's underlying stats from last year indicate that the opposite of what you think may be true. Better expected goals for, despite fewer minutes and more dzone starts, is one example.

Again, I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong. It's your opinion and that's fine. There is evidence to back up both sides of the argument though, which is why this is an interesting trade proposal to begin with. In the end, neither team does it (IMO), but the value is in the neighborhood of fair.



I agree. Some posted earlier “that now, they see 2018-19 wasn’t 2 separate years, that it was the same year split b/ween 2 teams”. I guess it wasn’t u. Sorry.

Ya, like I said I’m a Nichushkin fan!! I think he’s a good player!! I love watching Avs games and think Sakic is one of the best GMs in the game!! He’s definitely a better defensively forward. Although McCann is also a good two-way forward, but Nichuahkin was one of the best last year. But ya, we’ll have more to compare this year, Like I said, McCann is due to break out this year. 24 years old, played in the NHL since 19, finally staying in a consistent position on the LW( where he’s best suited for(said the GM, we’ll see what Sully does though).IMO, He’ll definitely top his back to back 35 point seasons and top his 19 goal career high!
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