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Team: 2016-17 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 17, 2016
Published: Dec. 18, 2016
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2018
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$73,000,000$69,575,000$0$2,850,000$3,425,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$1,650,000$1,650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,600,000$2,600,000
C
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
UFA - 4
$900,000$900,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 3
$1,950,000$1,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
$950,000$950,000
RW
UFA - 1
$600,000$600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,700,000$4,700,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
$5,700,000$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
$1,650,000$1,650,000
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$2,625,000$2,625,000
C
UFA - 1

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Dec. 18, 2016 at 1:02 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 20, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. by Banks
You keep making 3 for 3 trades. They aren't going to happen (especially with Nash).
Dec. 18, 2016 at 2:50 p.m.
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Detroit easily turns that down, Don't want Nash at nearly $8 million if we trade both Green and Helm it's to shed salary not take back a $7.8 million Rick Nash.
Dec. 19, 2016 at 9:47 p.m.
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I know, I should just trade for picks like every TD&H. At least I trade for even cap, or take some on! Never mind, I thought DET wanted to make the playoffs again.
Dec. 20, 2016 at 1:16 a.m.
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Matt Puempel isn't even a center and the 3-person trades you keep suggesting are unbalanced and unrealistic. I mean really? Raanta for Niemi? Raanta is cheaper and arguably a better goalie than Niemi, and considering the rest of the pieces of the trade are AHLers, it really is not worth it for us to do. Also, I know your username is "nashless," but I really suggest stopping the "trade Nash" narrative because the returns you propose for him are always inferior. And you can't use his cap hit as an excuse for this one because the 2 NHL players you get in return have a combined cap hit of 9,850,000. Finally, the Pirri + Lindberg trade just has no purpose. Why bother giving up two perfectly fine depth players, of whom are centers, a position that we don't have an abundance of, for a depth left winger that we won't need upon Zibanejad's return? Stop with the 3 player trades and maybe then your deals will be more realistic and actually make some form of sense.
Dec. 21, 2016 at 12:46 a.m.
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Matt Puempel isn't even a center and the 3-person trades you keep suggesting are unbalanced and unrealistic. I mean really? Raanta for Niemi? Raanta is cheaper and arguably a better goalie than Niemi, and considering the rest of the pieces of the trade are AHLers, it really is not worth it for us to do. Also, I know your username is "nashless," but I really suggest stopping the "trade Nash" narrative because the returns you propose for him are always inferior. And you can't use his cap hit as an excuse for this one because the 2 NHL players you get in return have a combined cap hit of 9,850,000. Finally, the Pirri + Lindberg trade just has no purpose. Why bother giving up two perfectly fine depth players, of whom are centers, a position that we don't have an abundance of, for a depth left winger that we won't need upon Zibanejad's return? Stop with the 3 player trades and maybe then your deals will be more realistic and actually make some form of sense.
Clown. Puempel played center against NJ and looked good, whatever put him on the wing. Johns is not an Ahler, he's a freak of nature, look it up. Brilliant, let's keep Nash for the playoffs, where have you been? Not getting kids or picks for him, here is an idea, let's get playoff warriors instead! i.e. Marleau, Ward, Green... Remember 94 cup trades, clutch for soft players, before your time I guess. Come on, Oscar and Pirri come playoffs or D giant King? This team has NO balls! Ok, never mind the 3rd players in the trades if you can't understand the reasoning, no big deal. We're going for it this year. Man o man, everything you say is wrong. Ps don't bother retyping same argument.
Dec. 21, 2016 at 2:56 p.m.
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Matt Puempel isn't even a center and the 3-person trades you keep suggesting are unbalanced and unrealistic. I mean really? Raanta for Niemi? Raanta is cheaper and arguably a better goalie than Niemi, and considering the rest of the pieces of the trade are AHLers, it really is not worth it for us to do. Also, I know your username is "nashless," but I really suggest stopping the "trade Nash" narrative because the returns you propose for him are always inferior. And you can't use his cap hit as an excuse for this one because the 2 NHL players you get in return have a combined cap hit of 9,850,000. Finally, the Pirri + Lindberg trade just has no purpose. Why bother giving up two perfectly fine depth players, of whom are centers, a position that we don't have an abundance of, for a depth left winger that we won't need upon Zibanejad's return? Stop with the 3 player trades and maybe then your deals will be more realistic and actually make some form of sense.
Clown. Puempel played center against NJ and looked good, whatever put him on the wing. Johns is not an Ahler, he's a freak of nature, look it up. Brilliant, let's keep Nash for the playoffs, where have you been? Not getting kids or picks for him, here is an idea, let's get playoff warriors instead! i.e. Marleau, Ward, Green... Remember 94 cup trades, clutch for soft players, before your time I guess. Come on, Oscar and Pirri come playoffs or D giant King? This team has NO balls! Ok, never mind the 3rd players in the trades if you can't understand the reasoning, no big deal. We're going for it this year. Man o man, everything you say is wrong. Ps don't bother retyping same argument.


Saying stuff like "if you can't understand the reasoning, no big deal" and "don't bother retyping same argument" is the equivalent of saying "Please don't say that stuff again because I have no real argument against them and am going to attempt (poorly) to demean you to the point of you no longer wanting to question me as a way to hide the fact that I'm wrong."

The Devils have lost 6 straight and are playing so badly that even a defenseman playing center for a night could look "good." And you're making the EXACT mistake that this franchise has made for the past 3 years: trading players for aging veterans instead of youth and draft picks. Getting Joel Ward or Patrick Marleau won't fix anything, especially if you're just using them as a replacement for Nash. As for Dwight King, they L.A. Kings would never accept that trade. The New York Rangers are underpaying BIG TIME. Also Nash has had a fine season barring the recent injuries. Johns is VERY much an AHLer. He barely makes a whimper in the NHL, which I think you might already know, considering the fact that you've put him on the 3rd line. Now it's my turn to say that magic phrase to you: Please don't bother retyping the same argument.
 
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