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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2021
Published: Jul. 9, 2021
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The Bertuzzi trade is based off what he's acutally worth using old trades. If your expecting a trade like the Mantha one just stop. There was a cap dump in that trade ppl are forgetting.
Kerfoot would be a nice one if DET has a free FWD protection slot. And don't even think saying kerfoot don't have value or isn't good. I will throw hands

The Rielly one I seen from a kings article. I felt weird about it but it saves cap and you get 2 players and a pick back. So it's weird. Depends on the person if you think if it's enough or not enough. (I also don't know how AA is at C oops)

The Holl one I seen couple times on here so there's that just going with the people. (Saves cap and get the goalie we need)

I'm opposed at getting Dougie but with Rielly gone you need another top dman to fill in and he's well there

Also got scratches in there because well you need them and people forget about them
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  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
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  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
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Originally had him on 3rd line but decided to put a better option. Love this dude so much if he can get back to pre injury mikheyev he's a beast. Again not useless. And the dude likes soup
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  1. Engvall, Pierre
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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laugh laugh First off you're at least $2,000,000 under for Dougie Hamilton? laugh laugh Tyler Bertuzzi > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Kerfoot+Toronto's 2022 1st round pick. I just can't stop laugh laugh laugh laugh
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Wings pass, not the package we want.

Kerfoot has negative value for us.

Amirov/Robertson + 2022 first + a Hallinder type prospect, or no go
Jul. 9, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: buffbry
Wings pass, not the package we want.

Kerfoot has negative value for us.

Amirov/Robertson + 2022 first + a Hallinder type prospect, or no go


Well it's not like he asked for a trade so I can see that but if that what your expecting then you be pretty upset when/if he gets dealt plus it's one of the players I listed. Kerfoot is the best option if you have a free protection slot.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Wings pass, not the package we want.

Kerfoot has negative value for us.

Amirov/Robertson + 2022 first + a Hallinder type prospect, or no go


Is Bertuzzi a 40 goal scorer?
80-90 point guy?
As that's what you keep saying he's worth.

His highest point total is 48
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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Well it's not like he asked for a trade so I can see that but if that what your expecting then you be pretty upset when/if he gets dealt plus it's one of the players I listed. Kerfoot is the best option if you have a free protection slot.


Well Yzerman is the GM now not Ken Holland, Yzerman will fleece Dubas big time here not the other way around. If Yzerman doesn't get to his liking then Tyler Bertuzzi is absolutely going nowhere. Remember Bertuzzi isn't on the block Dubas wants him Yzerman doesn't have to deal him.
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Well it's not like he asked for a trade so I can see that but if that what your expecting then you be pretty upset when/if he gets dealt plus it's one of the players I listed. Kerfoot is the best option if you have a free protection slot.


Kerfoot stinks, we have no need or desire for this guy ever.

You gave up almost more for foligno

Division trade

Yzerman doesn't trade for what you offered, look at mantha and fabbri

It's closer to my package then yours
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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Is Bertuzzi a 40 goal scorer?
80-90 point guy?
As that's what you keep saying he's worth.

His highest point total is 48


See points above buddy. Kerfoot is dog **** and is negative value with a high cap hit. You gave up almost the same for 18 games for foligno. Leafs over value everything. You are wrong
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.
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Is Bertuzzi a 40 goal scorer?
80-90 point guy?
As that's what you keep saying he's worth.

His highest point total is 48

And yet Zach Hyman's best season is 41 points and Leaf fans think he's god. Bertuzzi=Hyman they're the exact same player.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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See points above buddy. Kerfoot is dog **** and is negative value with a high cap hit. You gave up almost the same for 18 games for foligno. Leafs over value everything. You are wrong


So your gonna be that guy and say kerfoot is nothing. Your opinion don't matter anymore.
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And yet Zach Hyman's best season is 41 points and Leaf fans think he's god. Bertuzzi=Hyman they're the exact same player.


and I never said Hyman is worth a 1st rounder, and two high end prospects. Becasue he's not

Probably the reason TO will not sign Hyman either. Honestly as mush as I like Hyman, paying him 5.5 or 6 would be a mistake, and they have enough of those mistakes already.
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So your gonna be that guy and say kerfoot is nothing. Your opinion don't matter anymore.


He is nothing to the red wings pal, that's how rebuilds work. My opinion of the knowing what the wings will take is More then leaf fan #75 overvaluing his team and players and giving the entire world reason #894 why we hate your entire team and fan base. 18 years and counting loser face
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:08 p.m.
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See points above buddy. Kerfoot is dog **** and is negative value with a high cap hit. You gave up almost the same for 18 games for foligno. Leafs over value everything. You are wrong


1. I'm not your buddy
2. I did not not do it, Lefas Orangaization did
3. Kerfoot is not the only piece in the trade. You are also wanting a first, and two prospects for 48 point player
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Well Yzerman is the GM now not Ken Holland, Yzerman will fleece Dubas big time here not the other way around. If Yzerman doesn't get to his liking then Tyler Bertuzzi is absolutely going nowhere. Remember Bertuzzi isn't on the block Dubas wants him Yzerman doesn't have to deal him.


Yea that. It be interesting to see what is being said and what is offering or what is being asked. It's just the people are judging it off the Mantha trade which they shouldnt. The guy in this thread is saying Bertuzzi is worth as much as someone like Foresberg.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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1. I'm not your buddy
2. I did not not do it, Lefas Orangaization did
3. Kerfoot is not the only piece in the trade. You are also wanting a first, and two prospects for 48 point player


And the wings trade him elsewhere cause leaf fans don't understand anything about value. Thanks for validating it
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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He is nothing to the red wings pal, that's how rebuilds work. My opinion of the knowing what the wings will take is More then leaf fan #75 overvaluing his team and players and giving the entire world reason #894 why we hate your entire team and fan base. 18 years and counting loser face


Be in a rebuild forever then. Also who hurt you?
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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Yea that. It be interesting to see what is being said and what is offering or what is being asked. It's just the people are judging it off the Mantha trade which they shouldnt. The guy in this thread is saying Bertuzzi is worth as much as someone like Foresberg.


We are saying we will get a similar type of haul for bertuzzi that we will for mantha. If Goodrow, foligno, Coleman all 3rd line players can get 1st. Bertuzzi a top 6 forward in his prime gets 1st + prospects
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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Be in a rebuild forever then. Also who hurt you?


Not forever, just not going to rush it and settle because leaf fans think wings are here to gift them players. Nobody hurt me, leaf fans are the worst fans in all of sports and you are one of the proof people's
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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So your gonna be that guy and say kerfoot is nothing. Your opinion don't matter anymore.


Yeah well in reality our opinion does matter, because Kerfoot isn't an Yzerman player. We already have Vlady Namestnikov who's basically the exact same player as Alexander Kerfoot Colorado dealt the guy for a reason. he's really not that good.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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And the wings trade him elsewhere cause leaf fans don't understand anything about value. Thanks for validating it


What? good luck to the Wings, if they think they get a first and two prospects for Bertuzzi.
You can keep the recent back surgery Bertuzzi then
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Not forever, just not going to rush it and settle because leaf fans think wings are here to gift them players. Nobody hurt me, leaf fans are the worst fans in all of sports and you are one of the proof people's


Funny I've been civil and yet your calling me a loser face.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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We are saying we will get a similar type of haul for bertuzzi that we will for mantha. If Goodrow, foligno, Coleman all 3rd line players can get 1st. Bertuzzi a top 6 forward in his prime gets 1st + prospects


Ok...take out kerfoot and add in one of the other 2 prospects I had in the trade
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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What? good luck to the Wings, if they think they get a first and two prospects for Bertuzzi.
You can keep the recent back surgery Bertuzzi then


You won't get him
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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Funny I've been civil and yet your calling me a loser face.


You said my opinion didn't matter and that's what set me off
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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Yeah well in reality our opinion does matter, because Kerfoot isn't an Yzerman player. We already have Vlady Namestnikov who's basically the exact same player as Alexander Kerfoot Colorado dealt the guy for a reason. he's really not that good.


More so saying his opinion don't since he thinks kerfoot is terrible. I'll defend kerfoot 10/10 times. Only reason I put him there in the first place was in case you had a protection slot and wanted a decent middle 6 player who can play C/W and PP/PK. Also knew poeple think he don't have value so that's why I added alternatives.
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Ok...take out kerfoot and add in one of the other 2 prospects I had in the trade


It's either amirov or Robertson not those prospects that have 0 value.

Foligno got a first for 18 games and bertuzzi is younger and better
 
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