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Created by: qwertymann
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2021
Published: Jul. 10, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
3$6,250,000
3$7,250,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,450,000
1$800,000
3$2,250,000
1$1,125,000
2$2,250,000
1$900,000
2$2,750,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2021 4th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. 2021 6th round pick (WPG)
2.
VAN
  1. Graves, Ryan
Additional Details:
Juolevi either gets selected by SEA and COL recouped a 3rd for a guy they would have lost for nothing. OR SEA takes someone else and Juolevi serves as a 3rd pairing replacement plus the 3rd
COL
  1. Juolevi, Olli [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
3.
VAN
    SEA select Highmore and trade for a year of Holtby at 3.25m
    SEA
    1. Highmore, Matthew
    2. Holtby, Braden ($1,050,000 retained)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    Recapture Fees
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
    Logo of the VAN
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    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the VAN
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    2023
    Logo of the VAN
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,417,326$648,780$1,900,000$1,082,674
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,675,000$3,675,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $825,000$825,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,225,000$1,225,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $3,166,667$3,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $850,000$850,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $800,000$800,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2

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    Jul. 10, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
    #1
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    Edited Jul. 10, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
    so if Juolevi is at risk of being selected by Seattle, and Graves is "a lock to go and dont lose him for nothing"
    Why are the avs trading the better dman who really isnt a lock to be selected, for a guy who could be picked aways in Juolevi.

    That doesnt make any sense to them, a 3rd round pick doesnt do a thing if that means they downgrade Graves to Juolevi and then still lose Donskoi in XD. Value is fine but the logic behind it doesnt make sense
    Jul. 10, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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    Boston might do that deal straight up if you drop the draft pick swap. The need to shore up their defense, however the $2M cap difference is hard to swallow until they determine how much Krejci, Carlo, Rask and potentially Hall will cost to re-sign.
    Jul. 10, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
    Boston might do that deal straight up if you drop the draft pick swap. The need to shore up their defense, however the $2M cap difference is hard to swallow until they determine how much Krejci, Carlo, Rask and potentially Hall will cost to re-sign.


    No, we wouldn't. There are better, cheaper options in free agency. No reason to sell low on Debrusk.
    Jul. 10, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Skull_King
    No, we wouldn't. There are better, cheaper options in free agency. No reason to sell low on Debrusk.


    "better?" yes.
    "cheaper?" yes.
    "better and cheaper" debatable.
    The same premise of selling low from Dubrusk (which you are correct) exists with Schmidt too. If he returns to his VGK form, he would be worth it. If not, he become a salary cap strain.
    Jul. 10, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
    "better?" yes.
    "cheaper?" yes.
    "better and cheaper" debatable.
    The same premise of selling low from Dubrusk (which you are correct) exists with Schmidt too. If he returns to his VGK form, he would be worth it. If not, he become a salary cap strain.

    Exactly. Which is why I'm not willing to take that risk. And I have a lot of confidence in him bouncing back.
    Jul. 10, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Skull_King
    Exactly. Which is why I'm not willing to take that risk. And I have a lot of confidence in him bouncing back.


    Can't say I would either if I were Boston, unless I struck out in the FA market.
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    Jul. 11, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    so if Juolevi is at risk of being selected by Seattle, and Graves is "a lock to go and dont lose him for nothing"
    Why are the avs trading the better dman who really isnt a lock to be selected, for a guy who could be picked aways in Juolevi.

    That doesnt make any sense to them, a 3rd round pick doesnt do a thing if that means they downgrade Graves to Juolevi and then still lose Donskoi in XD. Value is fine but the logic behind it doesnt make sense


    I get what you're saying for sure. The assumption I made was that if rosters stay as is, Graves will be selected by SEA. So with that assumption in mind, recouping a 3rd and a 23 year old 3rd pairing guy instead of nothing is better for COL. Then when it comes time for the expansion draft, if Juolevi gets selected then at least COL gained a 3rd rounder for a roster player they would have gained nothing for. If not and, using your example, SEA takes Donskoi then it is much easier for COL fill that middle 6 winger spot in UFA and for cheaper than 3.9. But based on the initial assumption, SEA only takes Donskoi if Graves isn't an option for them. So I see your take of "well then COL is without Graves and Donskoi" but if Graves is the guy SEA takes then COL loses him for nothing and it is much tougher to find his replacement for his current caphit than it would be to find a middle 6 winger.
     
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