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B2B2B Bolts

Created by: Swanman
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2021
Published: Jul. 16, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
Bring Thornton in.

Work a deal with Seattle to take Tyler Johnson along with a 1st and 2nd round draft pick.

Trade Palat to get a draft pick back.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Foote, Cal2$1,000,000
Barré-Boulet, Alex2$800,000
Day, Sean2$750,000
Colton, Ross2$1,000,000
Katchouk, Boris2$835,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Thornton, Joe1$750,000
Gibson, Christopher1$750,000
Smith, Gemel2$750,000
Trades
1.
TBL
    SEA
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (TBL)
    Additional Details:
    Deal for Expansion draft
    2.
    TBL
    1. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    Buyouts
    • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,496,788$145,122$0$3,212

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Killorn, Alex
    $4,450,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Point, Brayden
    $6,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Kucherov, Nikita
    $9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Stamkos, Steven
    $8,500,000
    RW, C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Cirelli, Anthony
    $4,800,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Colton, Ross
    $1,000,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Thornton, Joe
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    Gourde, Yanni
    $5,166,666
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Joseph, Mathieu
    $737,500
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Katchouk, Boris
    $835,000
    LW
    RFA - 3
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    Stephens, Mitchell
    $737,500
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Maroon, Patrick
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Hedman, Victor
    $7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Rutta, Jan
    $1,300,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    $9,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    McDonagh, Ryan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Cernak, Erik
    $2,950,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
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    Gibson, Christopher
    $750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Sergachev, Mikhail
    $4,800,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
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    Foote, Cal
    $1,000,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Smith, Gemel
    $750,000
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Day, Sean
    $750,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    Barré-Boulet, Alex
    $800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Stamkos, S.
    Point, B.
    Kucherov, N.
    Killorn, A.
    Hedman, V.
    Power Play 2
    Thornton, J.
    Cirelli, A.
    , .
    Sergachev, M.
    McDonagh, R.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Gourde, Y.
    , .
    McDonagh, R.
    Cernak, E.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Cirelli, A.
    , .
    Hedman, V.
    Sergachev, M.

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    Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
    #1
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    you dont want jumbo joe
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
    #2
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    Although Palat is probably worth a first or more no one is going to pay a premium to help Tampa get out of cap hell
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    Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: flyersarephilly
    Although Palat is probably worth a first or more no one is going to pay a premium to help Tampa get out of cap hell


    For the BILLIONTH time ...why would 1 team make a decision based on Tampa situation? Teams are competing for assets with the OTHER 30 teams ...it is not a 1-1 negotiation... it is market price for 30 teams when dealing with Tampa ... it's called business 101 ... if you dont understand this concept ...never get a real job
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:33 p.m.
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    TB isn't breaking Killorn and Cirelli combo up if they are both still on the team. Over 70% of Cirelli's career TOI Killorn has been on the ice too.
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
    #5
    who? what?
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    Quoting: Imback123
    For the BILLIONTH time ...why would 1 team make a decision based on Tampa situation? Teams are competing for assets with the OTHER 30 teams ...it is not a 1-1 negotiation... it is market price for 30 teams when dealing with Tampa ... it's called business 101 ... if you dont understand this concept ...never get a real job


    yes, there are 30 other teams, but all 30 of them know TB is hamstrung with their cap right now. Even if they don't want to talk to Philly, no other team is going to give them a true 1 to 1 trade. TB screwed themselves in future years to win this year. That's the reality, and now they have to pain stakingly begin to pay for it.

    oh, and I have a real job just so you know
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    Jul. 16, 2021 at 6:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: smkruzik
    yes, there are 30 other teams, but all 30 of them know TB is hamstrung with their cap right now. Even if they don't want to talk to Philly, no other team is going to give them a true 1 to 1 trade. TB screwed themselves in future years to win this year. That's the reality, and now they have to pain stakingly begin to pay for it.

    oh, and I have a real job just so you know


    Good god .. yes 30 teams "know" the Tampa Cap .. BUT each team will NOT have the same talent evaluations ...NOT have same cap ...NOT have the same skill sets/players.. NOT have same record and team GM/Owners etc. Etc. Etc.. you are making assumptions all 30 teams will act "alike" ...ZERO probability of that ..

    If you don't get above you don't have the business decision skills in free market environments...
    Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Imback123
    For the BILLIONTH time ...why would 1 team make a decision based on Tampa situation? Teams are competing for assets with the OTHER 30 teams ...it is not a 1-1 negotiation... it is market price for 30 teams when dealing with Tampa ... it's called business 101 ... if you dont understand this concept ...never get a real job


    Because this piece would be a luxury not a need for Philly and you're right it is a market price but when that one business or team depending on the situation NEEDS to get rid of some of their inventory there will be a lesser price for said thing.

    How many times have we already seen a team get compensated for taking a good player on cause a team needs cap space this is also a brand new situation with it being a flat cap world and players rightfully demanding more money. It's funny how you seem to be fine saying something isn't a fit or won't work but when someone points out that the market price isn't going to be met by the entire league because they realize they have leverage you don't like it
     
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