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Tkachuk moves

Created by: Chigurrhh
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2022
Published: Jul. 14, 2022
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The point of this is to say that the Penguins could absolutely move a couple of players, pick up some young players, and have the room to add a legit star player (a better use of cap space).

I'm not interested in arguing the actual value of Tkachuk, Pinto or Samorukov.

Can anyone argue that the Penguins are worse off using that cap space for a star like Tkachuk instead of Marino, Dumoulin, and McGinn?
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  1. Samorukov, Dmitri
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
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  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
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  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
CGY
  1. Hållander, Filip
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
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2025
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22$82,500,000$80,209,342$0$82,500$2,290,658
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
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UFA - 8
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
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NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
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UFA - 2
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
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NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
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Not a chance in hell sir
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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No chance any of these teams say yes besides Chicago maybe
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:55 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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No chance any of these teams say yes besides Chicago maybe


Edmonton was stupid enough to pay to take Duncan Keith's contract. Brian Dumoulin is exactly the kind of player Ken Holland loves. If you don't think he would make that kind of move, you don't know Holland.
Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.
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I know they lost Gaudreau, but I don't think Calgary will blow up their roster by trading Tkachuk. They can still contend with some moves.
Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.
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I know they lost Gaudreau, but I don't think Calgary will blow up their roster by trading Tkachuk. They can still contend with some moves.


Well, it depends on if he actually wants to re-sign there. He's an RFA and the previous negotiation wasn't easy.
Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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The only deal that’s remotely realistic is dumpingMcGinn to Chicago
Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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The only deal that’s remotely realistic is dumpingMcGinn to Chicago


Yeah, I've never heard of Ken Holland overpaying and acquiring aging former Stanley cup-winning top pairing defensemen before. Completely unfathomable and unrealistic!

I could never father a team with a need for a young defensive RHD trading a middle six prospect for one! Unbelievable.

And we have never seen a team trade a star RFA that doesn't want to sign with the team!
Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:12 p.m.
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Yeah, I've never heard of Ken Holland overpaying and acquiring aging former Stanley cup-winning top pairing defensemen before. Completely unfathomable and unrealistic!

I've also never seen a team with a need for a young defenseman trade a middle six prospect for one! Unbelievable.

And we have never seen a team trade a star RFA that doesn't want to sign with the team!


What makes you think the Pens want to move Dumolin? Has your front office shown any signs at all they’re willing to move away from their core guys? He’s been Letang’s partner for how many years now? You think he wants him gone?

Pinto has a real possibility of becoming a second line centre. He’s still on his entry level deal. Ottawa doesn’t need Marino that badly. All Ottawa has to do is dump Zaitsev and move up JBD. The idea of trading Tkachuk is a worthy one for Calgary to explore, but that’s just not a good offer.
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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What makes you think the Pens want to move Dumolin? Has your front office shown any signs at all they’re willing to move away from their core guys? He’s been Letang’s partner for how many years now? You think he wants him gone?

Pinto has a real possibility of becoming a second line centre. He’s still on his entry level deal. Ottawa doesn’t need Marino that badly. All Ottawa has to do is dump Zaitsev and move up JBD. The idea of trading Tkachuk is a worthy one for Calgary to explore, but that’s just not a good offer.


Pinto just signed a massive deal today, but i 100% agree with you
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
Pinto just signed a massive deal today, but i 100% agree with you


I think you’re thinking of Josh Norris
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Jul. 14, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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I think you’re thinking of Josh Norris


haha wtf ya i am.. oops. I still agree, not a good trade
Jul. 14, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
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What makes you think the Pens want to move Dumolin? Has your front office shown any signs at all they’re willing to move away from their core guys? He’s been Letang’s partner for how many years now? You think he wants him gone?

Pinto has a real possibility of becoming a second line centre. He’s still on his entry level deal. Ottawa doesn’t need Marino that badly. All Ottawa has to do is dump Zaitsev and move up JBD. The idea of trading Tkachuk is a worthy one for Calgary to explore, but that’s just not a good offer.


It's been reported that they are trying to move a LD (but the preference is Pettersson, though they are listening on Dumoulin). It's also been reported for like a year that they would be willing to move Marino. So yeah, don't act like moving Dumoulin is some crazy thing especially with the fact that he's declining and only has a year left.

I would also point out the return Mark Stone got when he was traded to Vegas. You guys always overvalue prospects and overestimate what it takes to get these guys. Look at the Debrincat trade. Didn't even get a prospect, just one first.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
It's been reported that they are trying to move a LD (but the preference is Pettersson, though they are listening on Dumoulin). It's also been reported for like a year that they would be willing to move Marino. So yeah, don't act like moving Dumoulin is some crazy thing especially with the fact that he's declining and only has a year left.

I would also point out the return Mark Stone got when he was traded to Vegas. You guys always overvalue prospects and overestimate what it takes to get these guys. Look at the Debrincat trade. Didn't even get a prospect, just one first.


Pettersson isn’t a part of your core. Dumolin has been there a decade now and is the preferred partner for your best Defenceman. It’s not likely he is traded. Marino also could be dealt but that’s not the return you’ll get. It’s going to be a winger with a bigger cap hit coming back. I have no idea why you’re bringing up Mark Stons. Ottawa was a mess then and he wanted out. Chicago is a mess now with a new GM and players who want out.
 
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