We talking about this season or are we intentionally leaving out Palat, Killorn and Coleman? All who are better than the majority of the wingers on this roster?

Some call pessimism, realism.

Our offense is only getting better. Pettersson had a DOWN YEAR last year and scored 30+. You do know he was playing with an taped up wrist for the first half of the season right? When fully healthy, he was producing at a 100 point pace. Boeser also had a DOWN YEAR because his dad was dying and Boeser's mental health was at an all time low. Hoglander also had a textbook sophomore slump. It is not unreasonable to assume all of them will do better than last year. Mikheyev is a pretty good additon. Scored a 30 goal pace playing mostly third line in Toronto. With Pettersson, he should easily get 20. Podkolzin is also only getting better and has the highest ceiling out of all our wingers. Garland was very good last year and should be able to maintain that pace. Talk about being clueless.

Talk about being clueless. You do realize that Boeser isn't bad defensively right? Why is unlikely he scores 30? He scored 23 last year while dealing with the fact that his dad was dying slowly in front of him. Mik playing with Pettersson should see him put up 20

Coleman? He was already in Calgary last year. Palat and Killorn are solid but aren't better than Boeser or Garland.

If the Pacific was in fact that weak, why is it all the eastern teams didn't sweep up wins when there were out on the best coast? Eastern teams had loosing records across the board when playing against the Pacific division during the regular season.

You must have copied that from the average team fan’s handbook of unreasonable expectations, subtitled “this year will be better” . #average

Fine, you seem so smart. Give me a list of reasons why the Canucks offense will be average. I'll wait. Sure the Canucks were average offensively last season. Now tell me why they won't be better than last season. You have not made a single rational or valid argument so far. Ignorant people like you bring down this forum

What are you smoking? Leafs had a winning record vs Pacific; only team we weren’t at least 0.500+ against was canuckles (0-2) first game goalie stood on his head, second game didn’t matter so we mailed it in. Pretty sure it was the same for other top eastern teams; weakcific was statistically (inter division records) the weakest by far; get a grip bud.

What have you offered other than tired old excuses that every middling team offers? Here’s my argument “ Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, and the same is true of success.”
It’s essentially the same team that has been extremely average for a number of years; there is simply no elite offensive talent on the canuckles and stats don’t lie and bear this out.
Petersen had 68 points last year (career high), but he’s suddenly a 100 point threat . Maybe some guys have better years but others will probably regress like JT Miller.
What makes this forum tedious is fans like you (& canuckle fans seem to be the worst) that radically over value their team and players. Like get a grip - you’re excited, but no one outside southern mainland thinks the Canucks are anything but average with average players; demko and Hughes aside.

Vs the Metro, only 3 pacific teams were below .500 on pts, the Knights, Ducks, and Kraken. Of those three, only the Kraken we're more than one point away from .500

Vs the Atlantic, only 3 pacific teams were below .500 on pts, the Oilers, the Canucks, and the Sharks, only the Oilers were more than 2 pts short from .500

Records vs the eastern conference
Calgary 20-7-5
Edmonton 15-14-3
Los Angeles 23-6-3
Las Vegas 16-14-2
Vancouver 14-14-4
San Jose 15-14-5
Anaheim 15-9-8
Seattle 13-13-6

Even an expansion team in their first season went .500 on pts against the "mighty" eastern conference, so heck off with this weakcific BS.

Pettersson was injured for the first half of the year. In his final 40 games, he had 49 points. Assuming Pettersson has another down year due to injury, assuming Boeser's mother dies which causes him to have another mentally absent season, and assuming that none of our other forwards can do anything, sure we are mediocre. I'll abide by the Toronto Maple Leafs fan mindset then. Kerfoot is an elite top line foward, Justin Holl will carry the Leafs to the finals. Funny thing is, neither the Canucks and Leafs will likely be seeing the second round of the playoffs this season

You tell yourself whatever you need to , but comparing the Canucks to the Leafs is a bit much even for a deluded canuckle fan. Marner (76 pts since Jan 1) & Matthews (74) are elite. Petersen (51) was on par with Willy (49) ; you ok if I predict M&M for 150 point seasons? Prob not, cause last time I checked, it’s the whole season that counts.
So keep cherry picking; you’re 50% right - you won’t be seeing second round

By your logic of “past success = future success”, the Leafs are never getting out of the first round

@ GiggywithGibby - not sure how (hopefully an honest mistake)…but your numbers did not make sense yesterday bud had no time to double check (what is your source?).
quick look this morning indicates you need to recalculate:

Atlantic vs Pacific (head to head) results are 63-56-9

Vancouver Canucks record Atlantic / Metro / Eastern = 5-10-1/ 6-8-2 /11-18-3; how do you get 14-14-4?
Seattle Kraken vs Atlantic / Metro / Eastern = 7-8-1 / 3-11-2 / 10-19-3; how do you get 13-13-6?

Hopefully you’ll recalculate and repost, but you’ll find what we all know - pacific was (and still is) the weakest division.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asTuCO-YZfw&ab_channel=TheHockeyGuy

Not elite lmao. Also, what does me being a leafs fan have anything to do with it? Toronto doesn't hate Vancouver the way Vancouver hates Toronto.

Why would Vancouver hate Toronto?

Lol

Lol

Canucks are sh*t but it is our defense that is the problem. Imagine being this petty yet still getting the facts wrong. Cya in April when both the Canucks and Leafs are on the golf course after round