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ANA? DET? Half way through making this team I hated it. Made do

Created by: PhatRas
Team: 2017-18 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2017
Published: Jun. 14, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I am not overly sure how highly ANA values Josh Manson, with the log jam on the blue line I figured there would be some wiggle room.

Same with Mrazek, not sure if that deal gets it done but they have 3 goalies that can all play at an NHL level
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,600,000
2$1,650,000
2$985,000
2$890,000
3$995,000
2$990,000
1$975,000
1$650,000
4$4,650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,100,000
3$2,200,000
1$1,250,000
4$1,850,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
STL
    Did not re-sign Brian Elliott
    2.
    CGY
    1. Manson, Josh
    ANA
    1. Bouma, Lance ($726,000 retained)
    2. Rittich, David
    3. 2018 4th round pick (FLA)
    4. 2019 2nd round pick (CGY)
    3.
    CGY
    1. Mrázek, Petr
    2. 2018 2nd round pick (OTT)
    DET
    1. Brouwer, Troy
    2. Parsons, Tyler
    3. 2019 3rd round pick (CGY)
    4.
    CGY
      Re-signed Michael Stone
      ARI
      1. 2018 5th round pick (CGY)
      5.
      CGY
        Package to ensure Kulak stays a Flame
        VGK
        1. Klimchuk, Morgan
        2. Stajan, Matt
        3. 2019 6th round pick (CGY)
        6.
        CGY
          RFA Tomas Tatar
          DET
          1. Kylington, Oliver
          2. Pollock, Brett
          3. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
          Buyouts
          Retained Salary Transactions
          DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
          2017
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          2018
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the OTT
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          2019
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          Logo of the CGY
          ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
          23$73,000,000$62,286,400$660,000$1,487,500$10,713,600
          Left WingCentreRight Wing
          Gaudreau, Johnny
          $6,750,000$6,750,000
          LW
          UFA - 5
          Monahan, Sean
          $6,375,000$6,375,000
          C, LW, RW
          UFA - 6
          Tatar, Tomas
          $4,650,000$4,650,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 4
          Tkachuk, Matthew
          $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
          RW
          UFA - 2
          Backlund, Mikael
          $3,575,000$3,575,000
          C
          UFA - 1
          Frolík, Michael
          $4,300,000$4,300,000
          LW, RW
          M-NTC
          UFA - 3
          Bennett, Sam
          $2,600,000$2,600,000
          C
          UFA - 2
          Lazar, Curtis
          $990,000$990,000
          RW, C
          UFA - 2
          Versteeg, Kris
          $2,200,000$2,200,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 1
          Ferland, Micheal
          $1,650,000$1,650,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 2
          Iginla, Jarome
          $1,250,000$1,250,000
          RW
          UFA
          Jankowski, Mark
          $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
          C, LW
          UFA - 1
          Hathaway, Garnet
          $890,000$890,000
          RW, LW
          UFA - 1
          Hamilton, Freddie
          $612,500$612,500
          C, RW
          UFA - 1
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
          Giordano, Mark
          $3,375,000$3,375,000
          LD
          NTC
          UFA - 5
          Hamilton, Dougie
          $5,750,000$5,750,000
          RD
          UFA - 4
          Brodie, TJ
          $4,650,400$4,650,400
          LD/RD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 3
          Manson, Josh
          $825,000$825,000
          RD
          UFA - 1
          Kulak, Brett
          $995,000$995,000
          LD/RD
          UFA - 1
          Stone, Michael
          $2,100,000$2,100,000
          RD
          UFA - 3
          Mrázek, Petr
          $2,000,000$2,000,000
          G
          UFA - 1
          Bartkowski, Matt
          $612,500$612,500
          RD
          UFA - 1
          Condon, Mike
          $1,850,000$1,850,000
          G
          UFA - 3

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          Jun. 14, 2017 at 12:46 p.m.
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          kww3
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          I don't think that works for DET. Mrazek, while inconsistent, has shown considerable stretches of Vezna caliber goaltending. The Wings are very unlikely to sell low on him now unless someone is willing to bet that he'll end up being closer to Vezna caliber than what he showed this year. Tatar is good for 20-30 goals/year and probably worth an A-/B+ prospect plus a 2nd/3rd round pick by himself. While Kylington and Parsons are attractive pieces they don't come close to getting the job done in my opinion. Plus on top you have a cap dump in Brower and us sending a 2nd rounder as well. Don't see this working for DET.
          Jun. 14, 2017 at 12:48 p.m.
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          PhatRas
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          Quoting: kww3
          I don't think that works for DET. Mrazek, while inconsistent, has shown considerable stretches of Vezna caliber goaltending. The Wings are very unlikely to sell low on him now unless someone is willing to bet that he'll end up being closer to Vezna caliber than what he showed this year. Tatar is good for 20-30 goals/year and probably worth an A-/B+ prospect plus a 2nd/3rd round pick by himself. While Kylington and Parsons are attractive pieces they don't come close to getting the job done in my opinion. Plus on top you have a cap dump in Brower and us sending a 2nd rounder as well. Don't see this working for DET.


          Cool, very fair analysis, I kind of figured he Brouwer piece would be a problem, I think thank if they send Abdelkader (excuse spelling) would be the only way that Brouwer goes the other way. And Howard is much more reasonable, I just want Mrazek!! Lol! Thanks for the feedback!
          Jun. 14, 2017 at 12:51 p.m.
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          Quoting: LazarBeams
          Quoting: kww3
          I don't think that works for DET. Mrazek, while inconsistent, has shown considerable stretches of Vezna caliber goaltending. The Wings are very unlikely to sell low on him now unless someone is willing to bet that he'll end up being closer to Vezna caliber than what he showed this year. Tatar is good for 20-30 goals/year and probably worth an A-/B+ prospect plus a 2nd/3rd round pick by himself. While Kylington and Parsons are attractive pieces they don't come close to getting the job done in my opinion. Plus on top you have a cap dump in Brower and us sending a 2nd rounder as well. Don't see this working for DET.


          Cool, very fair analysis, I kind of figured he Brouwer piece would be a problem, I think thank if they send Abdelkader (excuse spelling) would be the only way that Brouwer goes the other way. And Howard is much more reasonable, I just want Mrazek!! Lol! Thanks for the feedback!


          No problem! I've been trying to make a Howard to CGY deal work in my head for a while but it's just too damn hard cause of this goalie market, expansion draft, and all the other moving pieces. I'd also be open to a Mrazek trade but the price would be very high. I hope DET management feels the same.
          Jun. 14, 2017 at 1:43 p.m.
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          Murray makes some questionable moves but he wouldn't trade Manson to a divison rival, let alone trade him at all.
          Jun. 14, 2017 at 1:52 p.m.
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          Quoting: awatt
          Murray makes some questionable moves but he wouldn't trade Manson to a divison rival, let alone trade him at all.


          Where does he slot though? Which of Lindholm, Vatanaan and Fowler would you trade before Manson? If Bennett was coming the other way without picks would it be more feasible? Not that I want to see that, again, division rival taxes.
          Jun. 14, 2017 at 6:17 p.m.
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          Quoting: LazarBeams
          Quoting: awatt
          Murray makes some questionable moves but he wouldn't trade Manson to a divison rival, let alone trade him at all.


          Where does he slot though? Which of Lindholm, Vatanaan and Fowler would you trade before Manson? If Bennett was coming the other way without picks would it be more feasible? Not that I want to see that, again, division rival taxes.


          There have been some clear trends in the rumor mill that Manson is absolutely not available for trade. Lindholm and Fowler are the other two ANA prefers. Vatanen is the guy that's available. Friedman pitched a Bennett for Vatanen swap idea a few weeks back. I would imagine that a team like TOR would be willing to outbid CGY for a dman, and rightly so.

          Don't think that a trade like that within the division makes much sense for ANA/CGY. I like Vatanen, but I'd prefer a steadier shot suppressing partner to pair with Brodie so that he can do a bit more offensive damage for CGY again. Vatanen also not "big" and he's out recovering from a (hip?) surgery well into November 2017.
           
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