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Carter Hart Deal Analysis

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 8, 2023
Published: Jun. 8, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
My thinking on the below deal is that the 37 OA pick is going to be high enough to choose any of the Goalies in this draft who project to be as good as Hart.

Then the 2nd next season is a sort of insurance since not all 2nd round picks work out.

Finally Allen is more of a cap clearing move and the Flyers will need to dress someone competent, so while I do not think Allen adds value, I don't believe he subtracts value either.
Trades
MTL
  1. Hart, Carter
Additional Details:
Analysis in the description above
PHI
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
This is the most I would give up. I do not believe Hart's "upside" is the heir apparent to Carey Price.

If the price is set as a superstar Goalie, I would pass.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$69,778,166$1,170,000$4,195,000$13,721,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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Yeah this analysis is just stupid. Instead of trading for McDavid, I believe we can just draft the next one! Good luck drafting a goalie right now that probably won’t even hit Harts level in 5-6 years lol. Everyone wants flyers players, nobody wants to play the flyers fair value for them.
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Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
I agree with you. Saros is special! Hart... Maybe sorta one day...


Hart could be a great goalie. I bet he puts up excellent numbers in Colorado or Carolina. But in SJ, PHI or MTL he is going to continue to be average or worse.

Rebuilding teams are best to draft a promising goalie like Hrabal or Bjarnason. Develop them and by the time we are competitive, we have a good goalie ready to go on a team friendly deal!
Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:48 a.m.
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Yeah this analysis is just stupid. Instead of trading for McDavid, I believe we can just draft the next one! Good luck drafting a goalie right now that probably won’t even hit Harts level in 5-6 years lol. Everyone wants flyers players, nobody wants to play the flyers fair value for them.


Thanks for sharing your perspective that likens Hart to McDavid. I think you are illuminating that you feel he is a McDavid of Goalies and I do not. I understand, based on how you feel, that this might tick you off.

Try and keep in context that I am not arguing this gets the deal done, but that this is what I would be willing to pay and why. I think you've seen that I AM willing to pay a lot for Tippet for example from numerous conversations we've had.

Cheers!
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