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Leafs 23-24 Offseason

Created by: Leafs23
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2023
Published: Jun. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,750,000
3$800,000
3$950,000
3$800,000
3$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
3$4,600,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
    Future Considerations
    SJS
    1. Murray, Matt
    2. 2024 6th round pick (TOR)
    2.
    TOR
    1. Schmaltz, Nick
    2. 2024 5th round pick (ARI)
    3. 2025 6th round pick (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Minten, Fraser
    2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$83,500,000$82,956,450$0$0$543,550
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $5,850,000$5,850,000
    RW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $950,000$950,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $762,500$762,500
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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    Hell no! Why does SJ do this??
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Hell no! Why does SJ do this??


    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs23
    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?


    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs23
    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?


    Free 6 th round pick for taking on 5 mil in cap! Golly he wow how lucky are we! SMH this is ridiculous.
    They won’t do it because there are a dozen better goalies in the FA market that give the same thing and no one in hockey wants to do Toronto a favor. We’ve argued this over and over and over without a high pick we decline.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto
    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up


    This is far more reasonable cause otherwise a 6th is a joke and no team accepts.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto
    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up


    I would be fine with that. I would buy him out before trading a third-rounder or more. Probably would rather buy him out than trading out of the first also. We are still in a solid spot cap-wise for the future. But if we can give up a fourth or less im happy to do it, and I dont think that will be difficult to make happen. He's a backup goalie realistically, with a little more upside if healthy, making a couple more million then he should with 1 year left. People seem to be overstating how bad of a contract it is because its the Leafs. If we can give up minimal assets id do it.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs23
    I would be fine with that. I would buy him out before trading a third-rounder or more. Probably would rather buy him out than trading out of the first also. We are still in a solid spot cap-wise for the future. But if we can give up a fourth or less im happy to do it, and I dont think that will be difficult to make happen. He's a backup goalie realistically, with a little more upside if healthy, making a couple more million then he should with 1 year left. People seem to be overstating how bad of a contract it is because its the Leafs. If we can give up minimal assets id do it.


    The tandom next year is very likely Samsonov and Woll. Sammy probably makes 4.5 million, and Murray bought out. too injury prone, likely signs league minimum with another team
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Free 6 th round pick for taking on 5 mil in cap! Golly he wow how lucky are we! SMH this is ridiculous.
    They won’t do it because there are a dozen better goalies in the FA market that give the same thing and no one in hockey wants to do Toronto a favor. We’ve argued this over and over and over without a high pick we decline.


    Ok fine so its a fourth rounder instead of a 6th big deal. And cap is completely irrelevant to the sharks, they can take on this deal and not be close to touching the max. So in reality your not "taking on 5 mill in cap" because cap only matters to teams that are threatened by it. If anything it would be more about ownerships willingness to pay a couple extra million for a free fourth rounder. And did the people in hockey tell you that they hate toronto and don't want to do them favours even if they feel it benefits their team and jobs? I seem to remember the Sharks taking on 25% of Nick Foligno's cap hit for a fourth rounder to help the leafs out.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto
    The tandom next year is very likely Samsonov and Woll. Sammy probably makes 4.5 million, and Murray bought out. too injury prone, likely signs league minimum with another team


    Sammy absolutely does not get 4.5. At most I could see 4, but hes an RFA he doesnt have much negotiating leverage from everything ive seen high 3's sounds realistic. Murray will get more than the minimum in free agency, especially with a team that has free money to play with. He was fine last season. For example, Chicago just threw a lot of money at AA for no reason other than they could.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs23
    Ok fine so its a fourth rounder instead of a 6th big deal. And cap is completely irrelevant to the sharks, they can take on this deal and not be close to touching the max. So in reality your not "taking on 5 mill in cap" because cap only matters to teams that are threatened by it. If anything it would be more about ownerships willingness to pay a couple extra million for a free fourth rounder. And did the people in hockey tell you that they hate toronto and don't want to do them favours even if they feel it benefits their team and jobs? I seem to remember the Sharks taking on 25% of Nick Foligno's cap hit for a fourth rounder to help the leafs out.


    See that’s more reasonable. And sharks ownership is willing to lose money but with bad attendance last year they may be hesitant to take on cap just to lose more money.

    And the 25% retention was for cap and I could be wrong but I don’t think sharks actually ever paid out real dollars to Foligno. But on that I could be 100% wrong.

    And I know most teams don’t love Toronto because you guys and Montreal are the cash cows and desired destination for most players. You also have to remember we offered Tavares 13 and he chose you guys at 11 that leaves some bitterness too.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    See that’s more reasonable. And sharks ownership is willing to lose money but with bad attendance last year they may be hesitant to take on cap just to lose more money.

    And the 25% retention was for cap and I could be wrong but I don’t think sharks actually ever paid out real dollars to Foligno. But on that I could be 100% wrong.

    And I know most teams don’t love Toronto because you guys and Montreal are the cash cows and desired destination for most players. You also have to remember we offered Tavares 13 and he chose you guys at 11 that leaves some bitterness too.


    Thats a solid point about the ownership but I have a hard time believing they would go as far as to nix such a minor deal because of a relatively small immediate financial loss. Also I do believe that when a team retains they pay salary. As far as bitterness goes, thats almost certainly a fan only thing. These are professionals who conduct business in that way. Toronto has never actually wronged san Jose and they have made deals in the past.
    Jun. 12, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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    Thats a solid point about the ownership but I have a hard time believing they would go as far as to nix such a minor deal because of a relatively small immediate financial loss. Also I do believe that when a team retains they pay salary. As far as bitterness goes, thats almost certainly a fan only thing. These are professionals who conduct business in that way. Toronto has never actually wronged san Jose and they have made deals in the past.


    Fair. But GM’s and owners ate a bit of a boys club and they do hold grudges. But that wasn’t Grier you snubbed so not sure it holds merit here.

    I see the sharks taking on cap dumps, but only for 1sts or 2nds not 4ths or 5ths. Could be wrong we will see.
    And Murray may not be a true cap dump but neither is Goodrow and rumor is NY will give up a 2nd to move him.
     
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