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Doughty Deal

Created by: sens53
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 24, 2017
Published: Jun. 24, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
2$800,000
2$925,000
3$2,750,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,125,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,375,000
2$2,750,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Brown, Dustin
  2. Doughty, Drew
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2019 4th round pick (LAK)
  5. 2020 6th round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
Rights to Brodzinski
LAK
  1. Borowiecki, Mark ($300,000 retained)
  2. Burrows, Alexandre ($500,000 retained)
  3. Phaneuf, Dion ($1,000,000 retained)
  4. Wideman, Chris
  5. 2018 1st round pick (OTT)
  6. 2018 4th round pick (OTT)
  7. 2018 7th round pick (NYR)
  8. 2019 2nd round pick (OTT)
  9. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
  1. 2018 4th round pick (VAN)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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Logo of the OTT
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
2019
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
2020
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$75,000,000$69,950,833$0$360,000$5,049,167

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,187,500$5,187,500
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C
UFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LW, RW
UFA
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 1
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,200,000$4,200,000
G
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 3
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,375,000$1,375,000
LD
UFA
$2,800,000$2,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2

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Jun. 24, 2017 at 2:11 p.m.
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What is even happening here? No deal, ever, will be structured that way.

Hamonic just went for a 1st, a 2nd, and a conditional 2nd. What is even going back to LA for Doughty in this case? The only real value to LA is the removal of the Brown contract...but you're sending Phaneuf back at a higher cap hit even after $1M retained.

You're over-thinking this. And under-valuing Drew Doughty, a Top 5 dman in the world.

Try this:
Doughty + Brown
for
Chabot + Hoffman + 2019 1st + 2018 2nd
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Jun. 24, 2017 at 3:25 p.m.
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GJWKINGS
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Toronto fans will say the Sens gave up too much for Doughty.
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Jun. 24, 2017 at 3:32 p.m.
#3
clk_007
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Quoting: Vanderm
What is even happening here? No deal, ever, will be structured that way.

Hamonic just went for a 1st, a 2nd, and a conditional 2nd. What is even going back to LA for Doughty in this case? The only real value to LA is the removal of the Brown contract...but you're sending Phaneuf back at a higher cap hit even after $1M retained.

You're over-thinking this. And under-valuing Drew Doughty, a Top 5 dman in the world.

Try this:
Doughty + Brown
for
Chabot + Hoffman + 2019 1st + 2018 2nd


No way OTT would trade Chabot + Hoff + 1st for Doughty and buster Brown. Chabot has a very high potential & Hoffman is a top scorer in the league. LA would have to add if they want OTT to even consider trading Chabot.
Jun. 24, 2017 at 4:18 p.m.
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sens53
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Quoting: Vanderm
What is even happening here? No deal, ever, will be structured that way.

Hamonic just went for a 1st, a 2nd, and a conditional 2nd. What is even going back to LA for Doughty in this case? The only real value to LA is the removal of the Brown contract...but you're sending Phaneuf back at a higher cap hit even after $1M retained.

You're over-thinking this. And under-valuing Drew Doughty, a Top 5 dman in the world.

Try this:
Doughty + Brown
for
Chabot + Hoffman + 2019 1st + 2018 2nd



Vanderm don't be so obtuse. This trade the kings would improve three draft picks, get an additional 2 picks and also get 4 NHL players at a cap hit they are worth. Boro and wideman are still both young and will be ufa after next year but will be on the cheap to resign, phaneuf had a good year and although his cap hit is 7 he only actually costs 6 so if Ottawa retained 1 mil he only costs 5 mil. Which he is worth. Plus the kings get rid of the brown contract with no salary retained. Essentially they get burrows for brown at less than half the cost and a similar player with only 2 years left instead of 5.
Jun. 24, 2017 at 5:25 p.m.
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I doubt that Wideman and Borowiecki will ever be more than 3rd pair d-men, Phaneuf and Burrows too old to be worth much and the only draft picks LA is getting are a 1st and a 3rd which should be middle to late round picks. This is a horrible deal for Los Angeles, if they wanted to rebuild, they wouldn't want player like Phaneuf and Burrows and if they wanted to compete for the playoffs they would much rather keep Doughty. Vanderm's trade looks like fair value for Doughty.
 
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