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Created by: Finski
Team: 2023-24 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 18, 2023
Published: Sep. 18, 2023
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80-100, Points
1$775,000
60-80, Points
1$775,000
40-60, Points
1$775,000
20-40, Points
1$775,000
0-20, Points
1$775,000
Shesterkin, Igor
2$5,666,667
Quick, Jonathan
1$825,000
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35$83,500,000$97,496,583$610,892$1,232,500-$13,996,583
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80-100, Points
$775,000$775,000
60-80, Points
$775,000$775,000
40-60, Points
$775,000$775,000
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LW
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
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RFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$4,437,500$4,437,500
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,872,000$3,872,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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20-40, Points
$775,000$775,000
0-20, Points
$775,000$775,000
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C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$812,500$812,500
LD
RFA - 2
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$787,500$787,500
RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
C
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$787,500$787,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LW
RFA - 3
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$828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Shesterkin, Igor
$5,666,667$5,666,667
Quick, Jonathan
$825,000$825,000

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Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Taking the median points per player, this is a total of 970 points. That is anywhere from 323-970 goals. Since most goals have 2 assists, it's safe to estimate around 400-450 goals. That obliterates the Rangers all-time highest scoring season and would align them with peak Gretzky era Oilers.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: carbonxe
Taking the median points per player, this is a total of 970 points. That is anywhere from 323-970 goals. Since most goals have 2 assists, it's safe to estimate around 400-450 goals. That obliterates the Rangers all-time highest scoring season and would align them with peak Gretzky era Oilers.


But again this is skewed since some players will have 0 points. Most players will have under 10 goals (defenseman) or even 0 goals. Do you really think Shesterkin and Quick will combine for 20 points? Or the possible call-ups I put in. Blidh doesn't get a game is my guess, so there goes another 10 points. So again this is why this is an estimate post. It is what I believe each player is capable of and the results are not drastically different from last season (when it comes to the placement of each player). Some players replace others in this ranking (form last season).
Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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But again this is skewed since some players will have 0 points. Most players will have under 10 goals (defenseman) or even 0 goals. Do you really think Shesterkin and Quick will combine for 20 points? Or the possible call-ups I put in. Blidh doesn't get a game is my guess, so there goes another 10 points. So again this is why this is an estimate post. It is what I believe each player is capable of and the results are not drastically different from last season (when it comes to the placement of each player). Some players replace others in this ranking (form last season).


It says X-X points, not X-X goals. I also didn't count the goalies at all. The expected point totals are 25-30% too high.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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It says X-X points, not X-X goals. I also didn't count the goalies at all. The expected point totals are 25-30% too high.


No kidding. I want to see your math to be honest, since I believe it to be incredibly skewed.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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I already said what it was. I took the median of every player within their expected brackets, added them up and YOUR numbers are an expected ballpark 970 points. For reference, the Rangers players had a combined 743 points last season. They had 4 60+ point players but you somehow think they'll have 7 this season.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:06 p.m.
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I already said what it was. I took the median of every player within their expected brackets, added them up and YOUR numbers are an expected ballpark 970 points. For reference, the Rangers players had a combined 743 points last season. They had 4 60+ point players but you somehow think they'll have 7 this season.


How many players did you calculate into this equation?
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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I already said what it was. I took the median of every player within their expected brackets, added them up and YOUR numbers are an expected ballpark 970 points. For reference, the Rangers players had a combined 743 points last season. They had 4 60+ point players but you somehow think they'll have 7 this season.


So you have inflated your equation firstly if you believe that 7 players will score 60 points. Or then perhaps your eyesight is just bad.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Finski
So you have inflated your equation firstly if you believe that 7 players will score 60 points. Or then perhaps your eyesight is just bad.


Quoting: carbonxe
I already said what it was. I took the median of every player within their expected brackets, added them up and YOUR numbers are an expected ballpark 970 points. For reference, the Rangers players had a combined 743 points last season. They had 4 60+ point players but you somehow think they'll have 7 this season.


My estimated figures for each player are:
Zibanejad - 91
Panarin - 89
Fox - 80
Kakko - 66
Lafreniere - 61
Chytil - 60
Wheeler - 62
Kreider - 44
Trocheck - 51
Miller - 41
Trouba - 40
Goodrow - 21
Bonino - 20
Vesey - 20
Jones - 24
Schneider - 8
Gustafsson - 5
Lindgren - 9
Pitlick - 7
Mackey - 0
Belzille - 1
Brodzinski - 0
Leschysyn - 0
Nash - 0
Harpur - 0
Othmann - 6
Cuylle - 3
Blidh - 0
Shesterkin - 3
Quick - 0

This sums up to 812, a considerable leap from last season and that is why this is a prediction not a statement of fact.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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So you have inflated your equation firstly if you believe that 7 players will score 60 points. Or then perhaps your eyesight is just bad.


No. YOU are estimating 7 players over 60 points. YOU put 7 players in the 60+ point range. Then YOU made another post showing 7 players that YOU think will get over 60. The only thing IVE done, was point out how massively over inflated YOUR estimates are.
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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No. YOU are estimating 7 players over 60 points. YOU put 7 players in the 60+ point range. Then YOU made another post showing 7 players that YOU think will get over 60. The only thing IVE done, was point out how massively over inflated YOUR estimates are.


Huh? So you are not talking about this post? Please comment on the post you are meant to be commenting on
Sep. 19, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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Huh? So you are not talking about this post? Please comment on the post you are meant to be commenting on


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My estimated figures for each player are:
1 - Zibanejad - 91
2 - Panarin - 89
3 - Fox - 80
4 - Kakko - 66
5 - Lafreniere - 61
6 - Chytil - 60
7 - Wheeler - 62


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