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Created by: Totorou555

Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2023

Published: Sep. 23, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Zegras, Trevor		8	$7,850,000

Trades

BUF

Zegras, Trevor [RFA Rights]
2024 5th round pick (ANA)

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Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
Olofsson, Victor
Östlund, Noah
2024 1st round pick (BUF)
2025 2nd round pick (BUF)
2026 3rd round pick (BUF)

BUF

Zadorov, Nikita

CGY

Bryson, Jacob
Kozak, Tyson
2025 3rd round pick (BUF)

Buyouts

Christian Ehrhoff: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$79,036,070	$0	$4,570,000	$4,463,930

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Thompson, Tage $7,142,857$7,142,857 C UFA - 7	Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Cozens, Dylan $7,100,000$7,100,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Zegras, Trevor $7,850,000$7,850,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Quinn, Jack $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Mittelstadt, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C RFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 1	Peterka, John-Jason $855,833$855,833 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Girgensons, Zemgus $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1	Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
		Okposo, Kyle $2,500,000$2,500,000 ($500,000$500K) RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Samuelsson, Mattias $4,285,714$4,285,714 LD UFA - 7	Dahlin, Rasmus $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Levi, Devon $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) G RFA - 2
Power, Owen $916,667$916,667 ($1,850,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 1	Clifton, Connor $3,333,333$3,333,333 RD UFA - 3	Comrie, Eric $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Johnson, Erik $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 1
Stillman, Riley $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD RFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1

Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:13 a.m.

#26

GuyGuyGuy

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

ABSURD

He’s not as good as Eichel
No one is gonna pay Four 1sts for Zegras

Eichel first 2 seasons :
56 pts
57 pts

Zegras dirat 2 season :
61 pts
65 pts

Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:14 a.m.

#27

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

And yet teams can offersheet him a contract that costs a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd...

And Ducks will match it easily… they have 16m in cap space

Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:31 a.m.

#28

gretzkyghosts

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@worldwidesensei
@AntiAnalytics

Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

And Ducks will match it easily… they have 16m in cap space

Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Eichel first 2 seasons :
56 pts
57 pts

Zegras dirat 2 season :
61 pts
65 pts

You are confused my friend.
Zegras was drafted in 2019 so his first two post draft seasons were:
.......................................................................gm...g......a.....pt
2019-20 Boston University.......H-East......33...11....25...36
2020-21 Anaheim Ducks..............NHL......24.....3.....10...13
2020-21 San Diego Gulls...............AHL......17...10.....11...21
Jack Eichel's first two post draft seasons were:
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................81...24.....32....56
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................61...24.....33....57
If you wish to make a fair comparison of D+2:
Zegras 0.54 pts/gm
Eichel 0.93 pts/gm

Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:55 a.m.

#29

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts

worldwidesensei
AntiAnalytics

You are confused my friend.
Zegras was drafted in 2019 so his first two post draft seasons were:
.......................................................................gm...g......a.....pt
2019-20 Boston University.......H-East......33...11....25...36
2020-21 Anaheim Ducks..............NHL......24.....3.....10...13
2020-21 San Diego Gulls...............AHL......17...10.....11...21
Jack Eichel's first two post draft seasons were:
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................81...24.....32....56
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................61...24.....33....57
If you wish to make a fair comparison of D+2:
Zegras 0.54 pts/gm
Eichel 0.93 pts/gm

I mean we don’t know how many points Zegras would have had at 18 and 19, so I think taking the first 2 seasons in the league is more fair

Sep. 25, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.

#30

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

And Ducks will match it easily… they have 16m in cap space

Would they? Why can't they come to an agreement?

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Sep. 25, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.

#31

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Eichel first 2 seasons :
56 pts
57 pts

Zegras dirat 2 season :
61 pts
65 pts

@gretzkyghosts CORRECTLY blew this nonsense outta the water

I should’ve known better than to have a convo with a Habs though- u guys are all nuts on this site

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Sep. 25, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.

#32

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

Would they? Why can't they come to an agreement?

Cuz they won’t let him for only a first, second and third

Sep. 25, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.

#33

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

gretzkyghosts CORRECTLY blew this nonsense outta the water

I should’ve known better than to have a convo with a Habs though- u guys are all nuts on this site

Says the one who think Ostlund + first is fine. It’s not fair to compare a player with 2 years of experience to a player with none. Think in a job interview. The one with the most experience will almost certainly get the job before the guy who just started, even if the new guy is better at his job

Sep. 25, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.

#34

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

And that has NOTHING to do with trade value
Congrats on sounding even more ridiculous than before
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Eichel was WAY more valuable than Zegras is now,
not even close

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Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.

#35

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

And that has NOTHING to do with trade value
Congrats on sounding even more ridiculous than before
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Eichel was WAY more valuable than Zegras is now,
not even close

I know this has nothing to do with trade value, that wasn’t my point. Reread again

And no, Eichel isn’t more valuable. They have similar stats, but Zegras will sign for less and he is wayyyyyyyyy more marketable. The team that will acquire him pays a lot for his fan likability. It helps the marketing of a team

Sep. 27, 2023 at 5:43 a.m.

#36

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

They have similar stats

Scoring is way up since 2015. Not really fair to compare the two in terms of total points.

Age 19. Zegras (2020-21) 13pts - 381st in the league - while playing only 24 games
Age 20. Zegras (2021-22) 61 pts - 76th
Age 21. Zegras (2022-23) 65pts - 75th

Age 19. Eichel (2015-16) 56pts - 56th
Age 20. Eichel (2016-17) 57pts - 53rd
Age 21. Eichel (2017-18) 64pts - 52nd - while only playing 67 games

Not similar at all.

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 6:13 a.m.

#37

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

They have similar stats

And that is just total points, when adjusted for playing time, Pts/60:

(369 min TOI - what Zegras played in 2020-21, among Fs)

Age 19. Zegras (2020-21) 2.11 - 127th
Age 20. Zegras (2021-22) 2.73 - 81st
Age 21. Zegras (2022-23) 2.56 - 94th

Age 19. Eichel (2015-16) 2.17 - 98th
Age 20. Eichel (2016-17) 2.81 - 24th
Age 21. Eichel (2017-18) 2.85 - 41st

Not similar at all.

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 7:24 a.m.

#38

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

Eichel linemates : Reinhart, prime Olosfsson, Skinner

Zegras linemates : Terry and Milano and some random guy

Also, the league has gone up in scoring. Does that mean that Kucherov 127 pts season is more valuable than Mcdavid 150 pts season?

Sep. 27, 2023 at 7:46 a.m.

#39

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Skinner didn't play with BUF until 2018-2019...
Olofsson didn't play in BUF until 2019-2020...

Keep trying...

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 7:54 a.m.

#40

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

Skinner didn't play with BUF until 2018-2019...
Olofsson didn't play in BUF until 2019-2020...

Keep trying...

That’s pretty much the years we are talking about.

Anyway, they have pretty similar number, but Zegras will be cheaper and he is a thousand time more marketable

Sep. 27, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.

#41

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

That’s pretty much the years we are talking about.

Anyway, they have pretty similar number, but Zegras will be cheaper and he is a thousand time more marketable

More marketable? Eichel was marketed as the savior...Not sure what you are talking about. Basically every single sweater sold in BUF was an Eichel.

And not sure what years you are referring to. I clearly put exactly what years I was talking about. If you want me to include the years with Skinner and Olofsson, it will show Zegras is even further away from Eichel.

And not similar...at all

If we use

1-32 = best player on a team
33-64 = 2nd best
65-96 = 3rd

Eichel was between 1st - 3rd
Zegras was between 3rd-4th

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.

#42

worldwidesensei

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

That’s pretty much the years we are talking about.

2018-19: Eichel

82 pts - 23rd
P/60: 3.13 - 28th

2019-20: Eichel

78 pts - 10th
P/60: 3.1 - 25th

Not even close.

If you think 10th in the league in points and 75th in the league in points are "similar", not sure what to tell you.

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.

#43

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

I have never seen or hear someone say : « Let’s go watch the Sabres or the Knights to see Eichel ».

I have seen a lot of of people say : « Let’s go watch the ducks for Zegras even if they are **** »

Sep. 27, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.

#44

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

Benn with 90 pts in 2015-16 : first in the league

Stutzle with 90 pts in 2022-23 : 19th in the league.

By your logic, Benn’s season is more impressive than Stutzle’s

Sep. 27, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.

#45

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Edited Sep. 27, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.

Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Benn with 90 pts in 2015-16 : first in the league

Stutzle with 90 pts in 2022-23 : 19th in the league.

By your logic, Benn’s season is more impressive than Stutzle’s

Yep, way more impressive.

What is the point in lying?

This information is easily available. Kane led the leage and Benn had 89 points.

2nd >>>>>>>>>>> 19th

Is that hard to understand? lol.

Sep. 27, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.

#46

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Quoting: worldwidesensei

What is the point in lying?

This information is easily available. Kane led the leage and Benn had 89 points.

Sorry wrong year. 2014-15

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