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Tanevs

Created by: Random2152
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 9, 2023
Published: Dec. 9, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Tanev (SEA) has started poorly. Wonder what they would let him go for. Need half ret ofc. I wouldn't want him above 2 mil and also still wouldn't pay a huge amount of assets for him - but I think he could be decent depth to move Reaves out of the lineup permanently
Tanev (CGY) reportedly has a 2nd rounder cost. I'm sending more for retention
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
CGY
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Brandon ($1,750,000 retained)
SEA
  1. McMann, Bobby
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,093,950$0$0$3,406,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$846,667$846,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 9, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
I love how many people on this website don't understand the connection between puck luck and eye test. Makes it very easy to know who to ignore


I agree with his takes, though. From a non-bias perspective, he's all you'd want in a depth player. Great forechecker, solid defensively. I think you mistook what OP was saying. If you're looking at Cole Smith from an offensive perspective, you're looking at him wrong. He has almost no scoring touch and barely any offensive skill. But in the back end? I'd want him there.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
I agree with his takes, though. From a non-bias perspective, he's all you'd want in a depth player. Great forechecker, solid defensively. I think you mistook what OP was saying. If you're looking at Cole Smith from an offensive perspective, you're looking at him wrong. He has almost no scoring touch and barely any offensive skill. But in the back end? I'd want him there.


Again - you demonstrate that you don't understand the impact puck luck has on player eval.

The gist is that when pucks go in - everyone looks better than they are.
The fact he said the guy broke out and not: has been good consistently says that something has changed recently.

That change is that he has an absurdly high PDO.
Yes that affects both offensive and defensive players, it's also team based when he is on the ice, not just his s% (although that also helps).

Basically he has been getting lucky - and that makes players look better. He will come back to earth and return to being a nobody.

Generally speaking anytime you hear a player is suddenly good, or bad check PDO first. It's a great litmus test
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:05 p.m.
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Again - you demonstrate that you don't understand the impact puck luck has on player eval.

The gist is that when pucks go in - everyone looks better than they are.
The fact he said the guy broke out and not: has been good consistently says that something has changed recently.

That change is that he has an absurdly high PDO.
Yes that affects both offensive and defensive players, it's also team based when he is on the ice, not just his s% (although that also helps).

Basically he has been getting lucky - and that makes players look better. He will come back to earth and return to being a nobody.

Generally speaking anytime you hear a player is suddenly good, or bad check PDO first. It's a great litmus test


Considering Smith has 70% dzone starts and is rarely ever in the ozone (much like his entire line), their puck luck has very little impact on their defensive game. Looking at the chart you provided, he's in the 70th percentile among players in similar roles, and has a positive defensive rating. Taking intop account his PDO and shooting%, his offensive rating is still negative. Moot point. dougford was on the money with his evaluation. Good defensive depth player.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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Considering Smith has 70% dzone starts and is rarely ever in the ozone (much like his entire line), their puck luck has very little impact on their defensive game. Looking at the chart you provided, he's in the 70th percentile among players in similar roles, and has a positive defensive rating. Taking intop account his PDO and shooting%, his offensive rating is still negative. Moot point. dougford was on the money with his evaluation. Good defensive depth player.


Jesus dude I literally spelled it out for you. Still missing the point is an L
Also Ozone and Dzone stats are mostly worthless because most shifts start on the fly
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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Jesus dude I literally spelled it out for you. Still missing the point is an L
Also Ozone and Dzone stats are mostly worthless because most shifts start on the fly


You didn't spell anything out. You've been talking yourself in circles. Cherry picked a few useless stats and even tried showing a chart that still proved dougford's point.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:14 p.m.
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You didn't spell anything out. You've been talking yourself in circles. Cherry picked a few useless stats and even tried showing a chart that still proved dougford's point.


Useless stats.
That's what everyone says about PDO, right up until it comes crashing down. You would get along with Canucks fans
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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Useless stats.
That's what everyone says about PDO, right up until it comes crashing down. You would get along with Canucks fans


Right. PDO for a 4th line defensive forward who barely sees the ozone. "His shooting% is way up!".... for all 4 goals lol. Send me another chart or something
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:20 p.m.
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Right. PDO for a 4th line defensive forward who barely sees the ozone. "His shooting% is way up!".... for all 4 goals lol. Send me another chart or something


Depth players are the guys PDO is best used as a litmus test for. When they're high - it's notable
 
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